Sucker Shortage Alternative?
Juhas
Posted 10/15/2019 5:47 AM (#948251)
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So with the sucker shortage up nort what is everyone's back up plan?
fish4musky1
Posted 10/15/2019 6:40 AM (#948254 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: Northern Wisconsin
I heard they will be getting plenty this weekend.
Mark Hoerich
Posted 10/15/2019 7:33 AM (#948263 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: Already Gone
Spray painted bullheads.
sukrchukr
Posted 10/15/2019 1:40 PM (#948315 - in reply to #948254)
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Location: Vilas
fish4musky1 - 10/15/2019 6:40 AM

I heard they will be getting plenty this weekend.



good luck with that!

Fuzzy Duzzits
Bondy`s
vertical jigging other types of rubber as well
maybe some trolling
ToothyCritter
Posted 10/15/2019 2:07 PM (#948317 - in reply to #948315)
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I have a few I can spare in my livewell. Don't mind helping if someone has a trip planned and no bait, been there and it stinks.

They were alive this morning and I have an airater running to help keep them going, hoping they make it until Sunday. PM me if anyone needs a couple.
Mbeez11
Posted 10/15/2019 3:47 PM (#948323 - in reply to #948251)
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I have been wondering about using hot dogs. Larry Smith used them to catch pike through the ice, and I have caught pike on them as well. I'm talking the el cheapo Sugardale hot dogs. Has anyone tried this on muskies? I was going to try them this summer but never got a chance.
sukrchukr
Posted 10/15/2019 4:37 PM (#948325 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: Vilas
Do you use a quick strike rig on a hot dog?
What size hooks?
Maybe relish for scent?
ToothyCritter
Posted 10/15/2019 4:41 PM (#948326 - in reply to #948323)
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Location: Roscoe IL
The hot dog idea is funny. I remember when our muskie club was showing us how to rig up a QS rig. They used a summer sausage. Perhaps in a crunch? Add some cheese and you never know..



Edited by ToothyCritter 10/15/2019 4:42 PM
JGlass
Posted 10/15/2019 5:07 PM (#948328 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: Vilas
I called Rollie and Helens... they have no hot dogs either..... I then called PicNSav in Eagle River... they just have the standard bun size oscar meyer/ball parks....said I have to special order the foot longs
upnortdave
Posted 10/15/2019 6:44 PM (#948331 - in reply to #948328)
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Location: mercer wi
Catch some small pike and rig them up or any other type of game fish.
Pointerpride102
Posted 10/15/2019 7:14 PM (#948332 - in reply to #948331)
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I’ve seen tigers caught on hot dogs.

I’d go with a rotisserie chicken.
dfkiii
Posted 10/15/2019 8:10 PM (#948336 - in reply to #948332)
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Location: Sawyer County, WI
Pointerpride102 - 10/15/2019 7:14 PM

I’ve seen tigers caught on hot dogs.

I’d go with a rotisserie chicken.


Costco has good sized birds for $4.99. Cheaper than any sucker you'll find this time of year.
Pointerpride102
Posted 10/15/2019 8:13 PM (#948338 - in reply to #948336)
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dfkiii - 10/15/2019 8:10 PM

Pointerpride102 - 10/15/2019 7:14 PM

I’ve seen tigers caught on hot dogs.

I’d go with a rotisserie chicken.


Costco has good sized birds for $4.99. Cheaper than any sucker you'll find this time of year.


I can actually find them for $5, not tax, leave the money in the jar.
IAJustin
Posted 10/15/2019 8:15 PM (#948339 - in reply to #948336)
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Topwater.
ToddM
Posted 10/15/2019 9:35 PM (#948343 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: oswego, il
It sold on hotdogs until I see how Worrall rigs one on a jighead.
jdsplasher
Posted 10/15/2019 9:54 PM (#948345 - in reply to #948343)
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Location: SE, WI.

I believe Steve uses a drop of Super Glue to attach his Hotdog Ouch!

 Jd



Edited by jdsplasher 10/15/2019 9:55 PM
milje
Posted 10/15/2019 11:18 PM (#948349 - in reply to #948332)
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Location: Wakefield, MI
Pointerpride102 - 10/15/2019 7:14 PM

I’ve seen tigers caught on hot dogs.

I’d go with a rotisserie chicken.


I tried a partridge on a quick set rig once with no luck. Still not ready to give up on that one.
bturg
Posted 10/15/2019 11:54 PM (#948351 - in reply to #948251)
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Gray Squirrel on a board. Pull off when you get a follow. Reds chatter too much.
Mbeez11
Posted 10/16/2019 8:34 AM (#948358 - in reply to #948325)
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I rig a hot dog like I used to rig smelt. I take the treble hook off the leader and stick it through the hot dog in the middle, and then put the hook back on the leader.
chasintails
Posted 10/16/2019 8:52 AM (#948359 - in reply to #948251)
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Hot dogs are not big enough for fall fatties, you need the full sized summer sausage.

Edited by chasintails 10/16/2019 8:53 AM
milje
Posted 10/16/2019 9:08 AM (#948361 - in reply to #948359)
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Location: Wakefield, MI
chasintails - 10/16/2019 8:52 AM

Hot dogs are not big enough for fall fatties, you need the full sized summer sausage.


We’re still talking about muskies right? ??
Gregoire
Posted 10/16/2019 10:13 AM (#948363 - in reply to #948331)
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In Ontario you are not allowed to use game fish as bait. I am always interested in states where it is allowed.
JBlanck
Posted 10/16/2019 11:01 AM (#948367 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: Loves Park, IL
I know some guys use pan fish. I also heard it was illegal to use any game fish as bait. Travis Richardson used to use ciscoes he caught rigged up like suckers. Worked great. I can't remember if he netted them or what.
KenK
Posted 10/16/2019 11:17 AM (#948368 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI
In Wisconsin it is legal to use game fish for bait as long it is of legal size and counted toward your daily bag limit.
Larry Ramsell
Posted 10/16/2019 12:33 PM (#948372 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
KenK: AND caught from the lake you are fishing.
ToothyCritter
Posted 10/16/2019 12:52 PM (#948373 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: Roscoe IL
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Bondy
Posted 10/16/2019 6:24 PM (#948387 - in reply to #948251)
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Big mouth billy bass.
vegas492
Posted 10/16/2019 10:00 PM (#948401 - in reply to #948251)
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Back in the day I didn't run suckers up north. I would catch perch and hook them up to rigs. May take a little time to catch them, but they would probably work.
I also used bluegills, easier to catch, but I didn't get as many on them.
Someone said bullheads, and yah, I can see that. Never tried it, but could totally see that working.
Bondy
Posted 10/17/2019 6:00 AM (#948405 - in reply to #948251)
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What is the reason for the shortage?
14ledo81
Posted 10/17/2019 8:09 AM (#948411 - in reply to #948405)
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Location: Ashland WI
Bondy - 10/17/2019 6:00 AM

What is the reason for the shortage?


I was told winter kill by one bait shop.
KenK
Posted 10/17/2019 8:17 AM (#948412 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI
Same thing I have heard. Rearing ponds froze out last winter creating this season's shortage.
MartinTD
Posted 10/17/2019 8:27 AM (#948414 - in reply to #948251)
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I was told the creeks where they trap them are high for this time of year which has resulted in dangerous/difficult trapping conditions. So, not actually a shortage of suckers just that they haven't been able to trap them as efficiently.
esoxaddict
Posted 10/17/2019 5:15 PM (#948445 - in reply to #948251)
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Question for those in the know:

I get the VHS rules for the most part. But would it be illegal to catch suckers in a river that flows into or out of the lake I want to use them on? It's easy enough to catch your own, and actually kind of fun. But does "transporting them away from the body of water where you caught them" apply when the two are basically connected?
ToothyCritter
Posted 10/23/2019 3:17 PM (#948712 - in reply to #948251)
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Location: Roscoe IL
These were tough to get and not cheap. At least we will have something for Saturday.


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ToddM
Posted 10/23/2019 9:36 PM (#948744 - in reply to #948712)
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ToothyCritter - 10/23/2019 3:17 PM

These were tough to get and not cheap. At least we will have something for Saturday.


Not unless that lid is padlocked!
jchiggins
Posted 10/23/2019 10:16 PM (#948748 - in reply to #948445)
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn
esoxaddict - 10/17/2019 5:15 PM

Question for those in the know:

I get the VHS rules for the most part. But would it be illegal to catch suckers in a river that flows into or out of the lake I want to use them on? It's easy enough to catch your own, and actually kind of fun. But does "transporting them away from the body of water where you caught them" apply when the two are basically connected?
Yes it would be legal Jeff. The transporting them in quantities could raise a red flag but wouldn't be worth their trouble. Most states are now more worried about transporting the water then the bait itself. I'm sure pointer could give you the scoop.

Edited by jchiggins 10/23/2019 10:17 PM
Pointerpride102
Posted 10/23/2019 10:27 PM (#948749 - in reply to #948748)
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Location: The desert
jchiggins - 10/23/2019 10:16 PM

esoxaddict - 10/17/2019 5:15 PM

Question for those in the know:

I get the VHS rules for the most part. But would it be illegal to catch suckers in a river that flows into or out of the lake I want to use them on? It's easy enough to catch your own, and actually kind of fun. But does "transporting them away from the body of water where you caught them" apply when the two are basically connected?
Yes it would be legal Jeff. The transporting them in quantities could raise a red flag but wouldn't be worth their trouble. Most states are now more worried about transporting the water then the bait itself. I'm sure pointer could give you the scoop.


I can’t really speak for Wisconsin or IL, but the issue as noted would be the water. You would need to bring your own water (from a bait shop and/or home). And I definitely wouldn’t transport them in your boat/livewell. There are also bait harvest regulations here that I’m not super well versed on other than taking from an infested water for any use isn’t allowed. Some of our more confusing regulations.