Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"

Posted 10/27/2001 10:32 AM (#1185)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


I have had muskie in my boat with half of a lower jaw. I have had one eye ones, yellow ones that look to be dieing,
slits in the back from props, not quite genetic, but intersting.

What have you seen for problems and or genetic disorders?

Posted 10/27/2001 10:53 AM (#14416)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


I haven’t fished with him yet and I’ll try not to hook’em, but there is a swab around here that qualifies a genetic freak. [:p] [8)]
hehehe

Posted 10/27/2001 11:20 AM (#14426)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


I'll refrain from responding at this time as somehow I can feel a thumping coming on!!!![:0] [:sun:]

Posted 10/27/2001 9:31 PM (#14423)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


I have caught 3 fish that were abnormally obese. One fish had a normal build with fat all around and I assume he was just a fat fish. A second fish was not only fat but his bone structure was very wide, he was not in any way large headed from the side, but when you looked down on him his head was wide and front jaw was wide. The third fish was small headed and extremely GROSS in all dimensions.
There was some difficulty in assessing this fish as it was right at spawning time, but I guarantee that stripping the eggs on this one would still leave an awesomely bloated fish behind.

Were any of these three genetic abnormalities?
I am suspicious that #2 and #3 were. #2 because of the width of frame demonstrated in the bones of the head and #3 because in an area with already abundant food and fat fish he stood out as a fast growing fish with his appetite on overdrive.

I think # 1 probably will grow into a good big fish. #2 If it would continue to grow in length, maintain its fat condition on its already significantly wider frame, and not get intercepted could grow into a dream fish.
#3 This fish was the blimpest amongst a group of fast growing fish. Maybe this is the type of fish that records are made of, a fast growing fish with his appetite in overdrive??

All these fish were in the 40-42 inch size range by the way. Do they really maintain their home ranges throughout life???

Posted 10/27/2001 9:45 PM (#14422)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


I haven't seen the fish yet. but when participating in the Cass Lake tourney in Sept. several competitors reported seeing a large Muskie that appears to be white. Ask Steve Cady about this to see if he heard any of the guys talking about this fish. I personally have caught them missing various parts of anatomy. I think that this comes from the fishing pressure we have here and the number of fish caught and released. Lots of numbers in our area, Deer and Bone in particular. Got a nice 37" Tiger during R & H spring tourney a couple of years ago that was missing almost all of its upper jaw. The fish was healed well but had a very blunt chopped off upper lip.

Let Em Go... Let Em Grow.....Mike

Posted 10/28/2001 6:42 AM (#14427)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


I got a 38"er that liked like its back was broken,big humpie sucker!Fought and released like a true champion though!And of course theres those ones with the big bludging eyeballs!Gott`a love`em! [:devil:] Jeff

Posted 10/28/2001 11:47 AM (#14417)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


Never caught a musky with any genetics abnormalities, could say I have had a few guests but thats another story. Did have one fish this year which I never caught but had seen about a half dozen times in which its eyes seem to be bulging from its eye portels. I ask a guy who was a fish biologists about this and said the fish was probably justed scared, not the answer I was looking for but it was good for a laugh. I hope that this was a abnormality for this fish and not one that somebody miss handled by doing the old school eye hold and causing this, hopefully this fish will be around next year for me to catch and see whats up.

D'arcy

Posted 10/28/2001 12:52 PM (#14421)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


Not genetic but my only story.

A few years ago I was fishing an extraordinarily warm October day in Northern Vilas County. I was using a 10" Grandma when I caught a spunky low 30" fish. After unhooking the fish I noticed a hook point sticking out the side of the fish. So, I carefully pulled on it and the hook came out. It was a single sucker rig hook with a lead weight molded on the shank of the hook. The stranded leader was cut about 2" above the eyelet. I am to this day amazed at how healthy this fish seemed. It made an agresive strike on my bait and took off like a rocket when I put it back in the lake.

One other note, it didn't take either of my suckers. Must have learned it's lesson.

I only use quickstrikes.

Posted 10/28/2001 2:15 PM (#14425)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


I caught a 32" freak without using a bait or rod and reel, just a Frabill Net. I had some guests out on Pewaukee Lake
three weeks ago. We were pulling up to the west end seawall next to the landing when I saw a small muskie that didn't look right. I netted it and took its picture and released it. It had a normal sized head and tail but the body looked like the fish had swam into a wrapping paper tube. The diameter was probably half of what it should have been. The coloring and body looked normal, without sores or any indication of injury. It swam away normally. Weird!

Posted 10/28/2001 3:05 PM (#14420)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


I caught several northens that had a pink flank like a rainbow trout, some totally grey (silver-pikes), some totally yellow with some smaller white dots, I even took one that had a very thin tail of 3cm high although it measured 78cm. Also I took several witha parrot mouth (short upper jaw).

Posted 10/28/2001 4:29 PM (#14419)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


I have caught a few fish with very distinct genetic differences than most. Two that I remember well. I caught a 46" on Cass that had a "third eye". It had a birthmark about 3 inches behind its left eye that was bright yellow with a dark center, looking just like an eye. Everyone that looks at the picture points out how bright its eye appears, but upon inspection of the photo you can clearly see the shine from its normal eye in the picture.
Number 2 is also a Cass fish, also a 46", but it would have been longer if not for a severe spinal curvature. I caught it in the reeds, and is the only fish I have ever seen prior to casting at and then actually caught, not counting pitchbacks. It's body was an S shape, if stretched out the thing would have been almost 50in. It was exceptionally thin, and put up a bad fight. There was no scars on it, it looked like it must have happened at a very young age. The curve started at about the last 1/3 of the fish. It was also very pale, just wasn't healthy and probably never was. Later
Dan

Posted 10/28/2001 11:16 PM (#14414)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


Firstsixfeet, if those fish were caught in wisconsin, it is not a genetic defect. Wisconsin is the #1 state for morbid obesity.[:0]

Posted 10/28/2001 11:59 PM (#14418)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


Caught a trout earlier this year that had a normal head and tail but virtually little body...looked like a trout in a bluegill body.

Haven't caught any genetic mutant muskies but my wife claims she got a genetic freak!

BrianW

Posted 10/29/2001 1:38 AM (#14415)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


that trout was sick! Over here they are caught too but because of fishing pressure they no longer eat, same thing probably happened to this trout.

Posted 10/29/2001 4:53 PM (#14424)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


Last fall on sturgen bay caught a small pike that was blue and silver. Also caught A 45in. gar on silver lake with A double tail

Dave Jackley

Posted 10/29/2001 6:36 PM (#14428)
Subject: Have you ever caught any "Genetic Freaks"


Oh yeah, funny you ask because this past weekend I caught my first genetic freak. The musky was only 35" long but had the girth of a lower 40" fish. Looked like a football was jammed in its body sideways. Most definitely was a midget musky with a strict diet of ciscos.

My brother caught a fish this past summer that still puts him in cold sweats in the middle of the night. He stuck a fish that went about 48" on a bucktail and managed to land the fish. The fish was a good tanker since it was an open water fish that must have targeted greasiers.

Everything was very normal for the fish, but the eyes on it were golden yellow. My Dad and my other two brothers described it as having cat eyes.As he lifted the fish out of the net for a picture and measurement ,the bad girl started shaking. He quickly dropped it in the net so know damage would occur to the fish or himself. Only to have the sloth slice straight through his net like a hot knife through butter. He couldn't believe that the fish bolted through the net as if it wasn't there. The best part about this story is that old golden eye is still swimming about. It looks like we'll try to give him a workout this coming weekend to help wear off some of those calories from the cisco sandwiches.