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| If you're like me, you've fished with all sorts of people - guides, friends, strangers, your wife... Thinking about some of the stuff that's happened that makes me want to continue to fish with these folks, nor not. Here's a few:
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1. Watch your back cast, especially when I say "hold off, I'm behind you!"
2. Save me some water if you're up front.
3. Hit the spot I left for you if I'm up front
4. Know where the net is and be ready to grab it
5. Coordinate your cast so we're not figure 8'ing at the same time
6. Pay attention to what I'm throwing and choose your lures accordingly
7. Tell me you're snagged up so I can stop the boat before you break your line
8. Tell me when you're fish is ready to scoop and what side you want me on
9. Have fun for farks sake
10. Tell me when you've got a fish up or hooked
DON'T
1. Complain when we haven't seen a fish in two hours
2. Get mad when I catch a fish and you do not
3. Blow a gasket over a missed fish
4. Cast over my line or in front of me
5. Leave your crap laying all over the boat
6. Yell, scream, jump around, and freak out, unless the fish really is that big.
7. Spill your coffee. By all means, drink it. I do. Just please keep it IN the cup.
8. Same goes for dip. And take that receptacle with you at the end of the day.
9. Bring a tackle box that requires two people to carry
10. Spend all day on the phone, unless you're texting pictures of the fish we caught.
I'm sure there are many more, but that's a good start. What are yours?
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | I think we have to consider on this list who's boat your in as well. I've been in boats where I would not go back to because of actions as well.
DO:
-If you're in my boat and can run the bow mount well, be willing to swap spots here and there so both get time up front. Equal time in front and back for both partners
-If your boat is being used and you ask for suggestions for areas to fish, honor the suggestions or come up with a plan to work as a team.
DONT:
-If I'm in your boat, and fishing in the rear, fish at a pace that allows both of us to fish with casts hitting new places. One guy I used to fish with a lot would do this every time when I was in his boat. I stopped fishing with him because he moved the boat at a pace that worked only for him, not a team.
-Ask for suggestions on where to fish then do your own thing anyway. It only frustrates your partner. |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | no secret unknown to me dui's so you have to kybosh a trip to Canada |
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Location: Roscoe IL | Do: Speak and be able to contribute ideas on spot selection and carry a conversation. Don't have to be a chatter box, but say something every once in awhile.
Don't: Tell me your prairie dogging and need to use the bathroom when we just got on the water.
Yell or curse out anyone in another boat, even if they are wrong in any way. Not while in my boat, do what you want
in yours.
Have to leave early unexpectedly because your wife is not happy with you being gone. |
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| most important, a good netman. and do not trow your trash in the lake ! esox what'S wrong whit 2 guys that are doing figure 0 at the same times ?
Edited by supertrollr 8/13/2019 1:14 PM
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| EA, just wondering what you mean with your #6 Do item about seeing what lure you are using. Are you looking for them to throw something that is comparable in terms of retrieve speed? |
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| if there is no boated fish do not cast the same thing. if he cast a topwater ,use plastic etc etc. then you got more chance to see what she want.
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| No8, I think it's far easier to figure out what they want when you have different types of lures in the water. If I'm up front catching **** all on a back and silver double 10, I'd rather have the other folks or folk throwing something that's not a black and silver double 10. On the other hand, if I'm tearing them up on that lure?? Pick the closest thing you have and let's both catch fish!
As for coordinating your casts: If someone catches one out on a cast, the angler who is doing a figure 8 has more time to get their lure out of the water, put down their rod, and get the net. If someone raises a fish, I'd rather they have enough room to trigger that fish, hook it, and fight it effectively without someone else dong a figure 8 right next to them. This is especially important with three in the boat. That, and muskies seem to get really confused when they follow a lure in and find another one going in circles a few feet away. It's only happened to me once, but two fish hooked at the same time is pretty much a guarantee you're going to lose one or both. |
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Location: mercer wi | My best partner get to fish more then me because of work and family schedules, but we network very well together. If I'm out and he's not. I let him know what's going on. He does the same for me.
Cigarette breaks and food breaks are for when moving to a new spot.
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| esoxaddict - 8/13/2019 5:55 PM
No8, I think it's far easier to figure out what they want when you have different types of lures in the water. If I'm up front catching **** all on a back and silver double 10, I'd rather have the other folks or folk throwing something that's not a black and silver double 10. On the other hand, if I'm tearing them up on that lure?? Pick the closest thing you have and let's both catch fish!
As for coordinating your casts: If someone catches one out on a cast, the angler who is doing a figure 8 has more time to get their lure out of the water, put down their rod, and get the net. If someone raises a fish, I'd rather they have enough room to trigger that fish, hook it, and fight it effectively without someone else dong a figure 8 right next to them. This is especially important with three in the boat. That, and muskies seem to get really confused when they follow a lure in and find another one going in circles a few feet away. It's only happened to me once, but two fish hooked at the same time is pretty much a guarantee you're going to lose one or both.
Ok, that is more or less what I thought you meant but I have also seen where people talk about different lures, but lures that are retrieved at roughly the same speed, as opposed to someone slow walking a creeper in the rear, while the front guy is throwing a bucktail and wanting to cover more water. |
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| That happens, too. If you're not running the boat, you just have to adapt to whatever speed your partner wants to run. If the person running the boat is tooling along, and you're up front? Hawg Wobbler is out. If they're just dinking along and you're in back? Throw whatever you want. Worst case is you have to breathe for a second before you throw at the next spot. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | DO:
1) Make wagers with your fellow musky fisherman
DON'T:
1) Wait until hard water season to pay up |
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| Bikinis not thongs. |
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Location: oswego, il | Do's: be enjoyable to fish with, pay for half the trip.
Don't: dribble pee all over my boat carpet.
Pee, don't wash your hands then immediately upon sitting start eating my food, not yours.
Leave trash in my boat tucked away for me to find much later.
Leave my boat looking like I just mowed hay in it. |
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| Pretty sure the guy you would have a great time with just about anywhere is the same guy in a Musky boat. He’s interested in you having a great time, not just him. You can quickly “musky-up” a great guy, but can’t wash off being an a-hole just because he’s a stick. |
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Location: Ashland WI | Junkman - 8/14/2019 7:26 AM
Pretty sure the guy you would have a great time with just about anywhere is the same guy in a Musky boat. He’s interested in you having a great time, not just him. You can quickly “musky-up” a great guy, but can’t wash off being an a-hole just because he’s a stick.
Agreed.
I would add though, that I have a few "great guy" friends that I wouldn't necessarily want to take in my boat simply because they don't have the same interest level as me. If someone is ready to go home after 3 hours, and I want to stay 7-8, its not gonna work. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | It seems, though, when you find those few great guys to fish with, the time goes by really fast, so those 3 hours they may have wanted to fish are gone by before they know it and they want to keep fishing...
Heck...7 - 8 hours can go by really quick too, even if you are not seeing much for fish. Much of that can depend on the body of water you fish. 400 acre lake, 7 - 8 hours might be considered long long hours, but do 7 - 8 hours on Lake of the woods for example...that can seem to go by very quickly.
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| One other very important thing is to be on time. Don't make me wait on you if we are planned to leave at 6am don't be there at 6:30. I don't' make people wait on me so don't make me wait on you. I have left people that make a habit of this and don't fish with them any more. SHOW SOME CONSIDERATION!! |
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Location: Contrarian Island | brings 2 rods, 10 lures, and 30 pack of Blue Smoothies. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | These rules are kind of funny...
Can’t say I have too many. Don’t throw a dumb bait or else you will be shamed into putting it away. Try not to suck. Don’t block the XM/Sirius receiver.... |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | dickP - 8/14/2019 5:01 AM
Bikinis not thongs.
Either in my ride is OK, at my age neither is that much a distraction IF the fishing is good.
If not, with either, I'm nearly sure to eventually walk off the front deck the wrong way. |
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| ToddM - 8/14/2019 6:53 AM
Do's: be enjoyable to fish with, pay for half the trip.
Don't: dribble pee all over my boat carpet.
Pee, don't wash your hands then immediately upon sitting start eating my food, not yours.
Leave trash in my boat tucked away for me to find much later.
Leave my boat looking like I just mowed hay in it.
Do: provide something to pee into for guys who don’t have the stream they once had. You’ll understand later in life |
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Location: oswego, il | Pepper - 8/14/2019 5:30 PM
ToddM - 8/14/2019 6:53 AM
Do's: be enjoyable to fish with, pay for half the trip.
Don't: dribble pee all over my boat carpet.
Pee, don't wash your hands then immediately upon sitting start eating my food, not yours.
Leave trash in my boat tucked away for me to find much later.
Leave my boat looking like I just mowed hay in it.
Do: provide something to pee into for guys who don’t have the stream they once had. You’ll understand later in life
I do not everyone will use it. |
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| It’s your choice provide something or have stinky stained carpet or maybe the next rain will rinse it out. Good Luck!!!?? |
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| Pepper - 8/14/2019 5:30 PM
ToddM - 8/14/2019 6:53 AM
Do's: be enjoyable to fish with, pay for half the trip.
Don't: dribble pee all over my boat carpet.
Pee, don't wash your hands then immediately upon sitting start eating my food, not yours.
Leave trash in my boat tucked away for me to find much later.
Leave my boat looking like I just mowed hay in it.
Do: provide something to pee into for guys who don’t have the stream they once had. You’ll understand later in life |
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| I guess "don't whiz all over my boat" is a legitimate request. I have to admit that the "pee bottle" thing was a bit of a surprise. The first time I encountered that was on a particularly rough day when the guy I was fishing with said "pee bottle?" while offering me an acceptable but obviously well used receptacle. I said: "Uhh.... No, I'm good!" As I was trying to balance on my knees on the bow and thinking "Whoa, this is bad..." I thought about his offer.
My brain said: "Huh. I could easily go over, and possibly die taking a leak. Or I could put my dick in that bottle that I know he had his dick in, along with God knows who else."
I guess I ain't yet old enough to share a pee bottle... |
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| As long as this has gotten to the “more mature angler” issues...The older gentleman asks the druggist if he could cut the Viagra pills in half and then cut the half pills again into quarters. The druggist tells him a quarter dose isn’t going to make it stick out very far. The customer laughs and says, “That’s OK, I just want it far enough not to pee on my shoes!”
If you need more details, reading glasses will come 45-50, the pee jar around 60, forgetting where you put it around 65. Turning 70 is next month for me...the adventure continues. |
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| do be flexible, in front or in back. different is sometimes good.
do be respectful of the guy running the boat.
don't be a d!ck
pee in the splash well, safe and clean. |
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| Don't splash your lure on the water trying to get your weeds off. That is my biggest issue with one friend I fish with,he does it with out thinking you may have a follow at any give time. |
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| muhaaaa esox you make my day. many times ego could cause big trouble |
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Location: Roscoe IL | Junkman - 8/15/2019 6:31 AM
As long as this has gotten to the “more mature angler” issues...The older gentleman asks the druggist if he could cut the Viagra pills in half and then cut the half pills again into quarters. The druggist tells him a quarter dose isn’t going to make it stick out very far. The customer laughs and says, “That’s OK, I just want it far enough not to pee on my shoes!”
If you need more details, reading glasses will come 45-50, the pee jar around 60, forgetting where you put it around 65. Turning 70 is next month for me...the adventure continues.
Reminds me of the quote from a movie a watched awhile back. Old guy said he peed in Morse Code: Lot's a dashes and dots.. |
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| Peeing with dashes and dots is natural for the more experienced musky hunter. One of these days I'm going to learn to code my messages to the world... |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | The guy that helps out with the Gas, a pretty good caster, funny, not to serious, doesn't talk your ear off, doesn't pout when fishing and weather becomes difficult,...… and,... brings Great Sandwiches !
Oh,.. doesn't mind having a celebratory Beer ! or soda.
Peeing in the splash well is a good idea. imho. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | supertrollr - 8/16/2019 2:51 PM
i hope vms didn't make a cardiac arrest
It is imperative that the partner can clearly articulate what they are referring to.
Steve
Edited by VMS 8/16/2019 4:34 PM
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| Thanks for the input everyone. Fun to see everyone's responses. It makes us all better boat partners. And for any newbie anglers out there, who are reading this and thinking "wow, I don't want to fish with any of these guys!" don't worry. most of us are pretty hard core about our fishing, but in the end we're all just out there to have a good time, have some laughs, and make sure everybody has a shot or two at catching a nice fish. It's teamwork out there, and there are a lot of things that I mentioned because years ago, I did them, having no idea that you should not.
So here's a don't that I bring up every so often: Please when I raise the biggest fish I have ever seen,and it's clearly coming to eat, do not jump up and down yelling and pointing at it. "OH MY GOD!! That's a HUGE FISH!! YOU GOT HER, YOU GOT HER!!!"
Proving once and for all that yes, you really can scare the poopy out of something.
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| Oldest brother or life-long friend, simple like to be in the boat with these guys always fun never to heavy. Fishing: being outdoors, an occasional big one or (for walleye perch numbers) and fun w family - friends.
I'll add on occasion it's great to fish alone just for the quite (note: during the week mornings only). |
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Location: SE, WI. | DRPEPIN - 8/15/2019 10:55 AM Don't splash your lure on the water trying to get your weeds off. That is my biggest issue with one friend I fish with,he does it with out thinking you may have a follow at any give time. Actually, slapping a lure on the surface, during a neutral follow, has actually triggered a strike with Vengance. JD |
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Location: SE, WI. | sworrall - 8/14/2019 3:18 PM dickP - 8/14/2019 5:01 AM Bikinis not thongs. Either in my ride is OK, at my age neither is that much a distraction IF the fishing is good. If not, with either, I'm nearly sure to eventually walk off the front deck the wrong way. Hopefully Not with the Creature in your Hand;) JD |
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Location: The desert | Doesn’t have many rules, good grief. |
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| If someone has a follow, the partner should already be bringing in their lure and moving towards the net--in case the follow bites. On my last trip, my partner had a follow and I dropped my rod and was already headed for the net when he set the hook. The fish made one quick run and I was there to net it. As soon as the fish was in the net, the hook popped out on the 49 incher. I'm not sure how much longer that fish would have stayed on. So, a good boat partner is someone who gets the net before the fish is hooked.
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| The other person should be good netman and better not throw your waste in the lake. |
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| I don’t mind smoking in the boat I do it myself but for gosh sake be careful. Just got back from a trip and found a large melted spot of carpet. |
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| Pepper - 8/29/2019 7:18 AM
I don’t mind smoking in the boat I do it myself but for gosh sake be careful. Just got back from a trip and found a large melted spot of carpet.
I quit smoking over three decades ago but from what I remember, isn't that almost inevitable when smoking outside in the elements? Just a puff of wind and there goes a hot ash. |
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| as a 56 yr old dick I love the comment, Don't dribble pee all over my boat 
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Location: Neapolitan Chain Of Lakes | Best partner to me has been someone who is as completely opposite of me as we can both stand without peeing each other off beyond recovery. Just to add a few to above lists.
DO'S...........
1) Whoever's boat is being used on a trip (Local or long distance) please LITERALLY check and have spare tire(s) with proper air pressure and maybe even hub(s) assembly for the inevitable 2am failure in the deep woods.
2) Whoever's truck is being used on a trip (Local or long distance) make sure you have a real jack, lug wrench, and small essential tool set to use during possible changing of said spare tire or hub assembly while hearing strange noises in the thick woods at 2 am and seeing glowing eyeballs from headlamp.......in the deep woods.
3) Have a completely open mind when we are discussing possible fish locations and baits especially on a new body of water.
4) Try any presentation even if you're STRICTLY a caster and that 4 footer was caught while "I" was trolling to our next spot, etc.
5) Understand that there is a speed control knob on the trolling motor and how and when to use it.
6) Understand that at times the trolling motor can be off and we can quietly use the wind.
7) Make outlandish claims about fish, women, and yourself.
8) Be able to lighten or change the vibe....on occasion.....for example splash your rod in the water violently next to the boat like you got a boatside strike and laugh at me because i fell for it.
9) During long dry spells make a disgusting comment or ask a sophmoric question about where you draw the line on what you would do to obtain a million dollars.
10) Be able to say "You're absolutely F%&#ing crazy dude" and then go ahead and do it. (Not during lightning of course)
DONT'S.........
1) After having a tire blowout in the middle of the night, don't tell me you misplaced the key to unlock the underinflated spare, and then after digging relentlessly through the empty jack box behind the truck seat tell me you don't have a jack or a lug wrench either.
2) Have me meet you at the ramp after a long drive, loading all our gear, and backing you in while in your regal upright position feeling lofty and proud in your boat and then the big motor battery is dead cuz you didn't charge it.
3) Same as above but you didn't charge your trolling motor batteries and we have 1 bar on a windy day.
4) When in my boat don't eat your desert dry cracker sandwich while talking, laughing, and whistling chunks and pieces all over the carpet like a honey badger even if you do it in your boat.
5) Same as above with a sub sandwich oozing 5 ounces of mayo and mustard and chunks of meat to provide rotting smells later all over the carpet.
6) After a 48" fish is lost don't say at least it wasn't a 50
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Location: minneapolis | Pride ! You're Alive!
(So am I)
Good Grief....
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What makes a good boat partner??