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Location: DES MOINES, IOWA | I AM A CASTER. LOVE THE INITIAL FEELING OF THE BONE CRUSHING HAMMERING HIT, THE IMMEDIATE ADRENALIN RUSH, THE HOOKSET -OOPS- SORRY, I WAS OFF ON A TANGENT. BACK TO THE QUESTION.I WOULD LIKE TO THROW CASTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 200 YARDS, BUT REALIZE TECHNOLOGY ISN,T THERE YET. OUT OF ALL OF THE LINE I HAVE TRIED, I HAVE FOUND SPIDERWIRE GIVES ME THE MOST DISTANCE. HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS , FOR CASTING DISTANCE, WHAT IS THE BEST? |
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Location: Illinois-Indiana | Jay,
I don't know about distance, but the best line that I have found to my liking is Cortland Spectron in 50 and 80 pound test. I use the green line, I don't care for the black spot, the black thread going through the line tends to break down and fray.
Now for a little input on your casting TWO football fields.
Ever try to set the hooks in a fish on the end of your cast when you have just thrown your bait to the next county?
You are better off making a normal cast so you can set the hooks on a fish that strikes at the end of your cast. When you have all that line out there is NO WAY to get good tension on the line to get a good SOLID hook set. I used to throw a jackpot a country mile, I thought that I was covering more water that way.
I missed a lot of fish that exploded on my bait when it hit the water, I now make normal cast so when that fish hits, I can set the hooks and put her in the net. |
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Location: DES MOINES, IOWA | AGREE 100%, HOWEVER, FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH GREAT SUCCESS IS BASICALLY PULLING MUSKYS OUT OF EXTENSIVE, THICK CABBAGE/LILY PADS TO THE MAIN CHANNEL OF A SMALL RIVER WITH LONG CASTS USING TOPRAIDERS.I TAKE ONE SIDE OF THE CHANNEL, AND MY SON THE OTHER, AND WE CAST AS FAR AS WE CAN ALONG THE EDGE. MOST OF OUR HITS ARE AROUND 15/20 YARDS, AND WE ARE NOT HAVING ANY PROBLEMS WITH HOOK SETS. WE ARE ONLY FISHING IN 6 FOOT OF WATER, AND WITH SHORTER CASTS, BY THE TIME THE MUSKY LOCATES THE BAIT, IT WAS AT THE BOAT, AND THEY WERE SHYING OFF.THIS STUFF IS SO THICK NEXT TO THE CHANNEL, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN,T GET A LURE THRU IT. I CAN TAKE A JOHNSON SILVER SPOON, AND BOUNCE ALONG THE TOP OF THIS STUFF FOR 20 YARDS WITHOUT HITTING OPEN WATER. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING TO GET THEM OUT OF THIS STUFF, AND THIS SYSTEM HAS BY FAR WORKED THE BEST.WE ALSO USE LONG CASTS FOR CERTAIN REEF STRUCTURES, WHERE I AM APPREHENSIVE WITH MY FIBERGLASS BOAT OF GETTING ANY CLOSER. IN THAT SITUATION IS WHERE I MIGHT HAVE A MISSED HOOK SET. HOWEVER, ARE HOOK SET RATIO WITH TOPRAIDERS IS BETTER THAN ANY OTHER TOPWATER LURE I HAVE USED IN 48 YEARS OF PIKE/MUSKY FISHING.LIKE ANY TOPWATER PLUG, YOU GET THE MISSED HIT COMPLETELY, WHERE THE PLUG COMES CHUGGING THRU AN EXPLOSION OF WATER, AND YOU CAN,T BELIEVE HE MISSED IT COMPLETELY.I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW FAR WE ARE PULLING THESE FISH OUT OF THE SLOP, BECAUSE THE STRIKES ARE ALL FULL SPEED TYPE OF HITS. |
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| I use 80 pound Spectron green or black spot, and I cast almost all the time.
This line has never let me down and I can cast a country mile. Just watch me toss a Super Topraider, 10" Reef Hawg, or Burt. It is also great for working Spinnerbaits in tight cover.
Steve |
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Location: ashtabula ohio | if yer goin for distance the 50 goes much further than 80 lb.power pro with any type lure... |
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Location: winnipeg manitoba | try 80 lb stealth by spiderwire. it is teflon coated and a flat line that performs very well in all conditions. i love the way it rips through cabbage, try it you will like it/......craig |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | Farthest away from the boat I ever hooked something was like exactly 150yds on berkly fireline, I forget what lbs test. It was a friends new bass combo, he was having major problems casting because the bait shop did not put enough tension on the line when spooling it up. So I put a monnow floater on, let just about all the line out, took one crank on the handle and wayyy off in the distance I see this monster bass come out of the water. At the same time I feel the lure get into weeds, I'm like [email protected] lure would just been going by that spot and now its fouled...So I keep cranking but snapped the rod a couple times hard to try and clear the weeds...Well the fish comes out of the water again..Now I am thinking..I might have this fish..well I finally get it to the boat and the guy tries to land it for me, fumbles it somehow and we lost it at the boat. I think it was about 6-6.5lbs.. As for long casts, I get my longest with 65lbs tuff line on corsair 400 and a lamiglass 7'heavy rod. Same combo with Musky Master and I lose some distance.. |
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Location: Lake Vermilion Tower, MN | I like casting Tufline plus, it's very smooth and the 65# will go a long way. Instead of changing line you may want to change your rod to something longer. You didn't say what length rods you were using.
By the way, bumping a rock with a glass boat at trolling motor speed won't damage your boat. Besides I think you'll bump your trolling motor before you hit anything with the boat.  |
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | I am with Ralph on the casting for the fences. There is no need to cast that far! Again, setting the hooks with a zillion feet of line out is very hard to do, even with these awesome super braids that we have available to us.
I also find that super long cast put you out position. When fishing a spot you should be able to cast to the spot with a simple easy cast. There are plenty of times when you absolutely HAVE TO land your cast right on the weed edge, or right on break, right against shore, etc.... A shorter more precise cast is always more accurate and will put more fish in the boat.
As far as line goes, I use 80 or 100 Power Pro. Carries very little water and have not had a break off since I switched to this stuff a few years back.
Try making shorter cast and see what happens.
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| Mike,
Good point on the distance. I used to try the long casting deal, but it would plum wear me out after a couple hours. Once I started keeping the boat closer to the structure, I got in many more, and more accurate, casts. Fish contact went up, and hooking percentage went up too. I may have even got a couple younguns to work a little closer in up at Sab Bay this year. |
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | 65 and 80 lb Power Pro is the only line used in my boat for casting. Keep your casts down to 60 to 90 ft and you will win most of the battles.
Spectron would be my second choice.
If you need to cast farther for some reason drop the line size down to 50 lb. |
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| 'cept when I'm in it, Extreme One! Tuff Line, for me!
Edited by Shep 2/11/2004 2:00 PM
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Location: Appleton, WI | I second the 65 lb and 80 lb Power Pro. It's always held up nicely for me and it always performs well. It's not as supple as Tuff Line, but that's nice when picking out the occasional backlash. (This will be especially important if you're trying to hit a home run with your cast.ha,ha,ha).You can really launch some baits a Country Mile such as Jackpots or Vipers, but like Mike said you're better off keeping them closer to the boat. This will help get most of your hitters tied to the other end.
But there's some circumstances that may pay exception to this, and that's gin clear water while targeting suspendos. But you're still taking a risk of missing the fish on the hookset on the long casts.
catch ya later,
Krappie |
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Location: Wauwatosa, WI | Use 80Lb Power pro on all my set ups.
Seem to be the most versitile line with no break offs. But not the greatest in freezing temps, but what super line is.
Bob r |
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Location: Ottawa Ontario Canada | I use the 100lbs Tuf xp the amazing knot strength and abrasion restiance i have found better than its competion. I know what i like and i love Tuf
Kert Lavigne
Muskie Stalker Fishing Charters
Ottawa Canada |
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Location: Rockford Il 61108 | I've been using Power Pro 65pd and Tuff line 50pd. I never had a problem.
I bought 65 pd Tuff line-plus this year. |
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| Love the tuff line- plus . I haven't had a break off yet! |
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Best line for casting?