Northwest Angle
Finprof
Posted 7/26/2019 11:12 PM (#943180)
Subject: Northwest Angle




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Hi Everyone,

I am thinking of fishing the northwest angle for a week (mid July to beginning of August time frame). Looking for a two bedroom cabin to sleep a couple of guys with an AC. I have fished in the Morson area for a few years but am not super excited about the fishing there. I had heard that the angle could be much better. Is there any truth to that? Is the water similar (water clarity, water color, structure)? What lodge(s) would anyone recommend? I was recommended to try the sunset lodge. I would like to hire a guide for the first day to get the lay of the land. I will be buying the lake master LOTW chip and have a paper map. Is there anything else needed in terms of maps?

I am ultimately up there to enjoy the scenery, relax and catch fish. One of my biggest questions is how does the fishing in the angle compare to that in the Morson area (Red Wing Lodge or Buena Vista)? Is it much better (worth the drive)? Is it going to be a hassel to fish with the border being so near and us likely fishing both MN and Canadian water? Does that make it a ton more expensive?

Thanks in advance for any insight that you are willing to offer!
ToddM
Posted 7/27/2019 8:08 AM (#943183 - in reply to #943180)
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Sunset Lodge has two bedroom condos, perfect for what you are looking for. They are on oak island in the angle.
NickD
Posted 7/27/2019 8:35 AM (#943184 - in reply to #943183)
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What did you not like about Morson? The 2 areas are different but pretty similar in many ways. Guys who like to run fish some of the same water from both locations.
Finprof
Posted 7/27/2019 10:58 AM (#943190 - in reply to #943184)
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I like everything about Morson except the actual fishing. I thought it was not a whole lot better than what I can get here in WI. I heard the angle is better. Is there any truth to that?
Finprof
Posted 7/27/2019 11:36 AM (#943191 - in reply to #943190)
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Also, is a 1775 Lund Impact (basically an 18 foot deep v walleye boat) going to be fine up in the angle. I know that in the Morson area it can really blow but I could always find a spot out of the wind. I have fished the bay (Green Bay) with my boat without any issues.

Thanks!
VMS
Posted 7/27/2019 1:08 PM (#943195 - in reply to #943180)
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota
You’ll be just fine in that rig.. lots of areas to get out of the wind if need be.

Steve
NickD
Posted 7/27/2019 1:33 PM (#943196 - in reply to #943195)
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I’d be surprised if you found the angle to be way better fishing than Morson having fished both. The angle certainly has more areas that fish well in wind though.

As far as compared to your Wisconsin experience I guess that just depends on what you are accustomed to. I either fish the TC metro or Canada. Since I can pick my times here around home in the TC I catch more big fish here than in Canada. FAR better fishing experience up there though and well worth the drive.
MuskyTime
Posted 7/29/2019 6:25 AM (#943263 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




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Location: Stevens Point, Wisconsin
I would say one of the differences between the two locations is you will find more spots in closer proximity to one another in the Angle. More fishable structure in the Angle and one could argue higher concentrations of fish. Seems that the Angle has more pressure especially in mid July to first week of August. Fish the same structure you did down south. From what I understand the Morson area 30 - 40 years ago was loaded with fish, then the Angle was loaded with fish 10-20 years ago and now it seems Morson is seeing better results the last few years. Seems to be a noticeable drop off in fish numbers in the Angle the last few years. But pressure in the Angle I'm sure has a lot to do with it. If I were you I would avoid the Angle in Mid July.
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/29/2019 7:32 AM (#943265 - in reply to #943190)
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Finprof - 7/27/2019 10:58 AM

I like everything about Morson except the actual fishing. I thought it was not a whole lot better than what I can get here in WI. I heard the angle is better. Is there any truth to that?


If this was your take away, you probably aren’t going to do well in either area.
Moon Boy
Posted 7/29/2019 8:03 AM (#943269 - in reply to #943265)
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My take is that the Angle is definitely better than Morson. More spots, more fish. Unfortunately everyone is finding this out from a certain few people posting videos and pictures every day and blowing the place up like it's Green Bay or Vermillion. Morson is getting HEAVILY pressured now because of the same reason. My feeling is that MN and Green Bay is getting tough in general, so people are moving on to the next big thing. To me that's Lake of the Woods. But just like any other lake, it can't take the pressure. The resource is not unlimited like so many people think.

Edited by Moon Boy 7/29/2019 8:07 AM
CincySkeez
Posted 7/29/2019 9:58 AM (#943281 - in reply to #943265)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle





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Location: Duluth
Pointerpride102 - 7/29/2019 7:32 AM

Finprof - 7/27/2019 10:58 AM

I like everything about Morson except the actual fishing. I thought it was not a whole lot better than what I can get here in WI. I heard the angle is better. Is there any truth to that?


If this was your take away, you probably aren’t going to do well in either area.


I was thinking the same thing, what the!

But yea go to the Angle, it will be worth it since you're clearly looking for a change up.
KingT
Posted 7/29/2019 1:47 PM (#943305 - in reply to #943180)
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I don't think you could refer to the angle as the next big thing man...the angle has been known about and heavily heavily fished for years now!! And there is another reason besides social media that blew the place up. IMO
PredLuR
Posted 7/29/2019 4:57 PM (#943323 - in reply to #943180)
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Location: Madison, WI
Between the weed die off and the pressure, alot of the fish on LOTW said "f$*@ this noise" and headed out to open water. Still good amounts of fish to catch regardless. Just remember it much different back in mid 90s. good god that was 25 years ago.

Doesnt matter the area, if the weather is tough the week your there, fishing will suck and be tough. Weather good, wow, 6 fish days and this place is amazballs!!!!
Musky Brian
Posted 7/30/2019 6:25 AM (#943366 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: RE: Northwest Angle





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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
Finprof - 7/26/2019 11:12 PM
. I had heard that the angle could be much better. Is there any truth to that?


#FakeNews
jdsplasher
Posted 7/30/2019 9:22 AM (#943372 - in reply to #943263)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle





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Location: SE, WI.
MuskyTime - 7/29/2019 6:25 AM

I would say one of the differences between the two locations is you will find more spots in closer proximity to one another in the Angle. More fishable structure in the Angle and one could argue higher concentrations of fish. Seems that the Angle has more pressure especially in mid July to first week of August. Fish the same structure you did down south. From what I understand the Morson area 30 - 40 years ago was loaded with fish, then the Angle was loaded with fish 10-20 years ago and now it seems Morson is seeing better results the last few years. Seems to be a noticeable drop off in fish numbers in the Angle the last few years. But pressure in the Angle I'm sure has a lot to do with it. If I were you I would avoid the Angle in Mid July.
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THIS; ^^^^^^^^^^
Cliff; You may want to Listen To what Ed has to say. He did the guiding of Vets, Operation Muskie, and has a pretty good beat on the bite up there. Probably stick with the Morson Area, as he Suggests!!!

For Me; Still a Rookie up there
JD

Edited by jdsplasher 7/30/2019 1:42 PM
Fisher
Posted 7/30/2019 12:49 PM (#943392 - in reply to #943372)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle





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Location: Roseau
Never fished Morson before, but I have been fishing the Angle for 20 years or so casting summer and trolling fall. I would have to say the last few years have been the best for us, good numbers and big fish that are fat summer and fall. I really don't understand the pressure thing, if you see a few boats around run a mile or two, there are endless spots. I fish new spots every weekend and see fish on most of them.
Try it out and have fun.
CincySkeez
Posted 7/30/2019 1:09 PM (#943393 - in reply to #943180)
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Location: Duluth
Just remember there are no fish in the Morson area, at least compared to Wisconsin

Finprof: serious question now that I'm done poking fun, do you figure 8 every cast?
Cfollow
Posted 7/30/2019 1:20 PM (#943396 - in reply to #943392)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle


Fisher - 7/30/2019 12:49 PM

Never fished Morson before, but I have been fishing the Angle for 20 years or so casting summer and trolling fall. I would have to say the last few years have been the best for us, good numbers and big fish that are fat summer and fall. I really don't understand the pressure thing, if you see a few boats around run a mile or two, there are endless spots. I fish new spots every weekend and see fish on most of them.
Try it out and have fun.


One of the very few people I have seen go on record and say this. The Musky Hunter School to guys like Doug Johnson would certainly be in disagreement with this take.
Musky Brian
Posted 7/30/2019 2:41 PM (#943409 - in reply to #943269)
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
Moon Boy - 7/29/2019 8:03 AM
Unfortunately everyone is finding this out from a certain few people posting videos and pictures every day and blowing the place up like it's Green Bay or Vermillion.


Well what do you want them to do? They have musky camp spots to fill to pay for their extended stays ...
Muskyhunter10
Posted 7/30/2019 2:43 PM (#943412 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




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Location: Minnesota
Sort of on the same topic but has anyone ever just fished the US side of the Angle for muskies? Is there enough water/spots to keep someone busy for a week trip or do you have to travel into the canadian side?
CincySkeez
Posted 7/30/2019 2:59 PM (#943415 - in reply to #943412)
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Location: Duluth
Muskyhunter10 - 7/30/2019 2:43 PM

Sort of on the same topic but has anyone ever just fished the US side of the Angle for muskies? Is there enough water/spots to keep someone busy for a week trip or do you have to travel into the canadian side?


Seems like a really expensive way to be disappointed. Not saying it's not possible, but why?

Unless you're legally not allowed in Canada...which doesnt seem to be the case because you're able to go the Angle why would you limit yourself.

If a license is the issue, just buy a conservation tag.
Musky Brian
Posted 7/30/2019 9:58 PM (#943452 - in reply to #943412)
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
Muskyhunter10 - 7/30/2019 2:43 PM

Sort of on the same topic but has anyone ever just fished the US side of the Angle for muskies? Is there enough water/spots to keep someone busy for a week trip or do you have to travel into the canadian side?


.....no
ToddM
Posted 7/31/2019 7:03 AM (#943458 - in reply to #943180)
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Location: oswego, il
I would be willing to bet, most who fish the angle and are not from Minnesota are not getting a Minnesota license to fish the angle.
Brad P
Posted 8/1/2019 10:02 AM (#943554 - in reply to #943180)
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Any reports from either area? Heading up on the 10th to Sab, curious what is going on.
Finprof
Posted 8/4/2019 7:47 PM (#943764 - in reply to #943184)
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Only the lack of success, relative to my expectations. I also was hoping to find more weeds hopefully.
Finprof
Posted 8/4/2019 7:50 PM (#943765 - in reply to #943263)
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Mid July is our only option. Work gets in the way...
Finprof
Posted 8/4/2019 7:53 PM (#943766 - in reply to #943269)
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Moon Boy - 7/29/2019 8:03 AM

My take is that the Angle is definitely better than Morson. More spots, more fish. Unfortunately everyone is finding this out from a certain few people posting videos and pictures every day and blowing the place up like it's Green Bay or Vermillion. Morson is getting HEAVILY pressured now because of the same reason. My feeling is that MN and Green Bay is getting tough in general, so people are moving on to the next big thing. To me that's Lake of the Woods. But just like any other lake, it can't take the pressure. The resource is not unlimited like so many people think.


Thank you MoonBoy (and everyone else who gave me a serious answer). I appreciate the feedback.
Finprof
Posted 8/4/2019 7:56 PM (#943767 - in reply to #943393)
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CincySkeez - 7/30/2019 1:09 PM

Just remember there are no fish in the Morson area, at least compared to Wisconsin

Finprof: serious question now that I'm done poking fun, do you figure 8 every cast?


Seriously? I'm not new to musky fishing. Just relatively new to Canadian musky fishing.
Pointerpride102
Posted 8/4/2019 7:59 PM (#943768 - in reply to #943767)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle





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Location: The desert
Finprof - 8/4/2019 7:56 PM

CincySkeez - 7/30/2019 1:09 PM

Just remember there are no fish in the Morson area, at least compared to Wisconsin

Finprof: serious question now that I'm done poking fun, do you figure 8 every cast?


Seriously? I'm not new to musky fishing. Just relatively new to Canadian musky fishing.


What makes you say that the Sab Bay Area is just like fishing Wisconsin?
Propster
Posted 8/4/2019 9:22 PM (#943774 - in reply to #943269)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




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Location: MN
Moon Boy - 7/29/2019 8:03 AM

My take is that the Angle is definitely better than Morson. More spots, more fish. Unfortunately everyone is finding this out from a certain few people posting videos and pictures every day and blowing the place up like it's Green Bay or Vermillion. Morson is getting HEAVILY pressured now because of the same reason. My feeling is that MN and Green Bay is getting tough in general, so people are moving on to the next big thing. To me that's Lake of the Woods. But just like any other lake, it can't take the pressure. The resource is not unlimited like so many people think.


The pressure on either area is practically nonexistent relative to most Minnesota waters. So many spots and so many secondary spots to fish. Plus it's still mostly window dependent anyway, so doesn't bother me that a boat fishes a spot before me. And fish cycle on and off the spots constantly. My take anyway.
Finprof
Posted 8/8/2019 4:15 PM (#944058 - in reply to #943768)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




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Pointerpride102 - 8/4/2019 7:59 PM

Finprof - 8/4/2019 7:56 PM

CincySkeez - 7/30/2019 1:09 PM

Just remember there are no fish in the Morson area, at least compared to Wisconsin

Finprof: serious question now that I'm done poking fun, do you figure 8 every cast?


Seriously? I'm not new to musky fishing. Just relatively new to Canadian musky fishing.


What makes you say that the Sab Bay Area is just like fishing Wisconsin?


Because the flowage that I fish looks like a mini LOTW. Rock ledges, rock islands, etc... Just that it is a ton smaller.
oly67
Posted 8/9/2019 8:05 AM (#944074 - in reply to #943180)
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I have musky fished out of Nestor Falls,several island camps on the east side of Sabaskong, Morson, and a couple of island camps at the Angle................and I have found that muskie fishing can suck at any of these locations............on any given week. But, lucky for me, even a blind squirrel can find a nut once in awhile. But I love it up there, in any of the above places.
BNelson
Posted 8/9/2019 9:18 AM (#944076 - in reply to #943180)
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Location: Contrarian Island
Pressure up there is definitely up over years past. relatively cheap gas, good economy and every camp is adding more and more cabins and places to stay. Add in more and more "schools" and "bootcamps", large group outings and it can be busy some days. while other days you might not run into many boats. Does every new guide have to have their own "school" to feel legitimate? sheeeesh enough w the schools already. As Keith points out, the area you fish doesn't matter, there are fish in all of them. Timing on a spot is the most important thing.. we pulled up to a small island / reef last week and a musky boat was pulling off it.. my partner didn't think we should fish it, I jokingly said, those guys suck anyway. I got a 44.5 5 casts in....
Guys should spend more time figuring out how to be better shield lake fishermen than trying to figure out where the successful guys are fishing. Read and watch Dick Ps Muskies on the Shield a few times..

Edited by BNelson 8/9/2019 2:15 PM
Pointerpride102
Posted 8/9/2019 9:27 AM (#944077 - in reply to #944058)
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Location: The desert
Finprof - 8/8/2019 4:15 PM

Pointerpride102 - 8/4/2019 7:59 PM

Finprof - 8/4/2019 7:56 PM

CincySkeez - 7/30/2019 1:09 PM

Just remember there are no fish in the Morson area, at least compared to Wisconsin

Finprof: serious question now that I'm done poking fun, do you figure 8 every cast?


Seriously? I'm not new to musky fishing. Just relatively new to Canadian musky fishing.


What makes you say that the Sab Bay Area is just like fishing Wisconsin?


Because the flowage that I fish looks like a mini LOTW. Rock ledges, rock islands, etc... Just that it is a ton smaller.


And what are you dreaming that the angle has?
CincySkeez
Posted 8/9/2019 9:43 AM (#944078 - in reply to #944077)
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Location: Duluth
What BNelson said!
Propster
Posted 8/9/2019 1:16 PM (#944096 - in reply to #944076)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




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Location: MN
BNelson - 8/9/2019 9:18 AM
Guys should spend more time figuring out how to be better shield lake fishermen than trying to figure out where the successful guys are fishing. Read and watch Dick Ps Muskies on the Shield a few times.. ;)


What Brad said. Book is ten times better than the video as far as education, though parts of the video are good and entertaining. Many years ago when my son and I first met Dick we held our boats together and drifted across the bay a couple hours. Talked as much about hunting as fishing but picked up some important information. And while he showed us all kind of spots that he fishes and were in the video, the spot is not what is important, but rather how you fish it, and when you fish it.

Edited by Propster 8/9/2019 1:24 PM
IAJustin
Posted 8/9/2019 2:55 PM (#944100 - in reply to #944096)
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I believe when you fish according to Dick is 4:45am.
Propster
Posted 8/9/2019 3:07 PM (#944101 - in reply to #944100)
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Location: MN
IAJustin - 8/9/2019 2:55 PM

I believe when you fish according to Dick is 4:45am. :)


True enough!
DonPursch
Posted 8/9/2019 8:02 PM (#945102 - in reply to #944076)
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Location: Leech Lake, Walker MN
That’s a Fact !!
Matt DeVos
Posted 8/9/2019 9:05 PM (#945104 - in reply to #944076)
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BNelson - 8/9/2019 9:18 AM
Guys should spend more time figuring out how to be better shield lake fishermen than trying to figure out where the successful guys are fishing. )


Perfectly said and couldn't agree more.
Finprof
Posted 8/10/2019 3:41 PM (#945132 - in reply to #944077)
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Thanks

Edited by Finprof 8/10/2019 3:44 PM
Finprof
Posted 8/10/2019 3:43 PM (#945133 - in reply to #944077)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




Posts: 11


Pointerpride102 - 8/9/2019 9:27 AM

Finprof - 8/8/2019 4:15 PM

Pointerpride102 - 8/4/2019 7:59 PM

Finprof - 8/4/2019 7:56 PM

CincySkeez - 7/30/2019 1:09 PM

Just remember there are no fish in the Morson area, at least compared to Wisconsin

Finprof: serious question now that I'm done poking fun, do you figure 8 every cast?


Seriously? I'm not new to musky fishing. Just relatively new to Canadian musky fishing.


What makes you say that the Sab Bay Area is just like fishing Wisconsin?


Because the flowage that I fish looks like a mini LOTW. Rock ledges, rock islands, etc... Just that it is a ton smaller.


And what are you dreaming that the angle has?




A few people who aren't dumbasses that can answer a serious question!

Again, to those that really tried to answer my question, thank you. I really do appreciate it.To the rest of you - this is why I hardly come on here anymore. Musky fisherman really can be a bunch of di#*$.

I have been battling lung and heart disease for over a year and a half now. I finally feel good enough to fish a little this year outside of my Canadian trip. Who knows when my last year will be? God help me if I try to figure things out a bit before next year. Sheesh!
musky1969
Posted 8/10/2019 9:52 PM (#945148 - in reply to #943180)
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4:45 am sooooo true !! LOL
jdsplasher
Posted 8/10/2019 10:02 PM (#945149 - in reply to #945148)
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Location: SE, WI.
Heh, Dick P; Is that Dar-lene posting again? 1969

Heard he targeted Pike today....Common Man!!!

JD
dickP
Posted 8/11/2019 5:16 AM (#945153 - in reply to #945149)
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Well it’s 4:45 so better post.
Yes Jim he’s up here again.Sent me a ‘selfie’ of him and his loaded boat at Young’s Bay Friday and he actually got 2 that evening I think.Fortunately i’m 40 miles away now so don’t have to deal with him much although our routes may cross a bit this week.
Hopefully Carole will keep him in line.The fish are ‘going’ somewhere folks,better do the same.

Edited by dickP 8/11/2019 5:18 AM
musky1969
Posted 8/11/2019 5:33 AM (#945154 - in reply to #943180)
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Ha Ha Jim look at the video on my Facebook of Carol's almost nice fish pretty cool video about my time calling for a big fish too hit :)
It's 5:30 and we are hitting it, pretty strong North winds today we will see !!
D
ToothyCritter
Posted 8/14/2019 2:11 PM (#945339 - in reply to #943180)
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Location: Roscoe IL
Rollers for sure on 8.10.19. Deepwater bay sure was fun that day... The winds sure were a pain to deal with but we had our best day Wednesday. Saw boats from time to time but more Walleye fisherman for the most part. I'll be back next year for sure. Even tried Walleye fishing to break up the day and will do it more often. My wife & 2 boy's sure needed the mid day Walleye break, worked for us. Saw and caught more Muskies after 5pm mostly. The super early get out before dawn never paid off other than moving fish.

Word of the week was... ROCKS!
Pointerpride102
Posted 8/14/2019 5:29 PM (#945352 - in reply to #945133)
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Location: The desert
Finprof - 8/10/2019 3:43 PM

Pointerpride102 - 8/9/2019 9:27 AM

Finprof - 8/8/2019 4:15 PM

Pointerpride102 - 8/4/2019 7:59 PM

Finprof - 8/4/2019 7:56 PM

CincySkeez - 7/30/2019 1:09 PM

Just remember there are no fish in the Morson area, at least compared to Wisconsin

Finprof: serious question now that I'm done poking fun, do you figure 8 every cast?


Seriously? I'm not new to musky fishing. Just relatively new to Canadian musky fishing.


What makes you say that the Sab Bay Area is just like fishing Wisconsin?


Because the flowage that I fish looks like a mini LOTW. Rock ledges, rock islands, etc... Just that it is a ton smaller.


And what are you dreaming that the angle has?




A few people who aren't dumbasses that can answer a serious question!

Again, to those that really tried to answer my question, thank you. I really do appreciate it.To the rest of you - this is why I hardly come on here anymore. Musky fisherman really can be a bunch of di#*$.

I have been battling lung and heart disease for over a year and a half now. I finally feel good enough to fish a little this year outside of my Canadian trip. Who knows when my last year will be? God help me if I try to figure things out a bit before next year. Sheesh!


I guess my point was, if you aren’t looking to fish rocks, rocks, and more rocks...then LOTW might not be the place for you. Good weeds are hard to find on LOTW now, so if you’re looking at fishing big weed beds, you won’t find it in the Angle area. There are some weeds to be found in all areas of the lake, but the days of great cabbage beds are long gone. By no means does that mean you’ll never find fish in the weeds that are out there, they are certainly there. But if you’re thinking there will be more weeds, you may be left disappointed again. Also the days of 20+ fish weeks for two in a boat seem to be over. It’s possible, but is happening less and less based on reports.

The areas of the lake are all different, yet all similar as well. As noted how you fish a spot is often more important than the spot itself. Most areas of the lake have fish and plenty of them. In my opinion traffic seems higher in the Angle but there are more spots. Less spots in the Sab area, but the obvious ones often have boats on them.

I don’t think anyone was really trying to be a Richard to you, but saying it’s like fishing Wisconsin was an interesting take. If you don’t want to fish rocks, then you probably aren’t going to like any part of LOTW.
BNelson
Posted 8/15/2019 9:04 AM (#945387 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle





Location: Contrarian Island
Pointer, aren't you on LOTW this week? you should be out fishing instead of playing on M1st.. how is the week going??? crush city chow fest?
undersized
Posted 8/15/2019 10:56 AM (#945395 - in reply to #945352)
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I guess my point was, if you aren’t looking to fish rocks, rocks, and more rocks...then LOTW might not be the place for you. Good weeds are hard to find on LOTW now.

Interesting.

I found more cabbage this year on LotW than at any time over the past 10 years. The guide we spent time with said the same thing and has watched patches of cabbage grow from a single clump into 50yd weedbeds over the past 3 years. Of course, the cabbage is mostly dying down by mid-August like when you're there right now anyway so that makes it a bit tougher to find too - that doesn't mean there's none in July though.

By no stretch is it back to "Wonder Bay" like before the rusties came through where it could hold huge amounts of baitfish and therefore muskies, but there's good cabbage around in the right places that does hold some fish and maybe, just maybe, a new balance is finally sorting itself out in the ecosystem?
Musky Brian
Posted 8/15/2019 11:22 AM (#945398 - in reply to #945395)
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
undersized - 8/15/2019 10:56 AM

I guess my point was, if you aren’t looking to fish rocks, rocks, and more rocks...then LOTW might not be the place for you. Good weeds are hard to find on LOTW now.

Interesting.

I found more cabbage this year on LotW than at any time over the past 10 years. The guide we spent time with said the same thing and has watched patches of cabbage grow from a single clump into 50yd weedbeds over the past 3 years. Of course, the cabbage is mostly dying down by mid-August like when you're there right now anyway so that makes it a bit tougher to find too - that doesn't mean there's none in July though.

By no stretch is it back to "Wonder Bay" like before the rusties came through where it could hold huge amounts of baitfish and therefore muskies, but there's good cabbage around in the right places that does hold some fish and maybe, just maybe, a new balance is finally sorting itself out in the ecosystem?


I saw a very mixed bag of weeds a few weeks ago in the Angle-ish area. I saw “good” cabbage in some spots better than in recent years, but it was missing or bad in others. The “spaghetti weed”, which is junk but sometimes still holds fish, was way off this year. Don’t get that one. That super, super thick reddish cabbage is still doing well, but that stuff is not great to fish. There still is a very glaring lack of good weeds to fish in the Angle and I’m not sold that there’s any balance returning any time soon. Saw lots of crayfish in bellies of fish we chowed on...
kjgmh
Posted 8/16/2019 8:13 AM (#945426 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle





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Location: Hayward, WI
Leaving in the morning for The Angle. Only second time there. We found very little weeds last year, might have to do a little more hunting for them this year.
Finprof
Posted 8/16/2019 12:25 PM (#945442 - in reply to #945352)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




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CincySkeez - 7/30/2019 1:09 PM

Just remember there are no fish in the Morson area, at least compared to Wisconsin

Finprof: serious question now that I'm done poking fun, do you figure 8 every cast?


Seriously? I'm not new to musky fishing. Just relatively new to Canadian musky fishing.


What makes you say that the Sab Bay Area is just like fishing Wisconsin?


Because the flowage that I fish looks like a mini LOTW. Rock ledges, rock islands, etc... Just that it is a ton smaller.


And what are you dreaming that the angle has?




A few people who aren't dumbasses that can answer a serious question!

Again, to those that really tried to answer my question, thank you. I really do appreciate it.To the rest of you - this is why I hardly come on here anymore. Musky fisherman really can be a bunch of di#*$.

I have been battling lung and heart disease for over a year and a half now. I finally feel good enough to fish a little this year outside of my Canadian trip. Who knows when my last year will be? God help me if I try to figure things out a bit before next year. Sheesh!


I guess my point was, if you aren’t looking to fish rocks, rocks, and more rocks...then LOTW might not be the place for you. Good weeds are hard to find on LOTW now, so if you’re looking at fishing big weed beds, you won’t find it in the Angle area. There are some weeds to be found in all areas of the lake, but the days of great cabbage beds are long gone. By no means does that mean you’ll never find fish in the weeds that are out there, they are certainly there. But if you’re thinking there will be more weeds, you may be left disappointed again. Also the days of 20+ fish weeks for two in a boat seem to be over. It’s possible, but is happening less and less based on reports.

The areas of the lake are all different, yet all similar as well. As noted how you fish a spot is often more important than the spot itself. Most areas of the lake have fish and plenty of them. In my opinion traffic seems higher in the Angle but there are more spots. Less spots in the Sab area, but the obvious ones often have boats on them.

I don’t think anyone was really trying to be a Richard to you, but saying it’s like fishing Wisconsin was an interesting take. If you don’t want to fish rocks, then you probably aren’t going to like any part of LOTW.


Thank you for clearing that up for me. I just fish a couple flowages that have a lot of rock (and weeds) in WI. Not like LOTW exactly but it definitely reminds me of it in some spots. But we have a lot more weeds here (and in WI in general). Since it is a flowage, there is also a decent amount of current. So it really does remind me of mini LOTW in some areas. But not exactly (or even super close if we are being picky). That's all I was saying.

I am not especially good at fishing rocks (just rocks without weeds), so that is something that I need to work on. I tend to fish too close to the structure (rocks) sometimes. But that's something I have already been addressing. I am not an expert on LOTW and I am always trying to figure it out better. And to those who recommended muskies on the shield, I love that book. Try to read it before I go up to Canada each summer.

I have always borrowed a copy but it's time I buy one for myself.

It sounds (maybe?) like the weeds may be making a comeback in the angle. If that's true, I an sure I will learn a lot about what to look for from our guide the first two days. The first two days we will be hiring a guide.

Thank you for the help.
dickP
Posted 8/16/2019 6:31 PM (#945464 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




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Finprof the main thing is have fun!I sent you a pm a few days ago with some thoughts.Check it out if you haven’t.
MuskyMidget
Posted 8/16/2019 7:18 PM (#945467 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: RE: Northwest Angle




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Spent most of our time up this year fishing the north end of the Big Narrows and Wiley Point.

The thick brown “tobacco cabbage” as I call it was more lush than I’ve seen it in years. When fishing on the rocks was slow we pounded all those cabbage beds we could find but with no luck. Usually running a top water and the other guy grinding Rad Dogs or Grinders. A couple slow and low follows that’s it.

Talked to a couple guys having a drink at Wiley who were staying down at Jakes. They said they were pulling big girls out of the spaghetti weeds but also low and slow.

Couple questions ... do the rusties not eat the tobacco cabbage? What’s everyone else experience trying to fish the super thick stuff?

Midge
Musky Brian
Posted 8/16/2019 8:15 PM (#945474 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle





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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
The super thick stuff alone with nothing else in the mix does not yield good results in my experience, occasional flashes at best, usually not very big ones. There’s a lot of that stuff in Big Narrows. In my experience it had to be mixed in with something else...a few good underwater boulders, bullrush, part of a point, a tree, a beaver hut ...something.

The one piece of green I think people overlook out there are actually lily pads, especially sparse patches

Edited by Musky Brian 8/16/2019 8:19 PM
lambeau
Posted 8/19/2019 8:06 AM (#945560 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




Location: Madison, WI
I haven't been to the Angle since about 2012, and there was nothing there at the time but stories of past weeds. It was striking to me how often Joe Cooper mentioned weeds in his article about fishing LotW in the most recent issue of Musky Hunter.


Edited by lambeau 8/19/2019 8:08 AM
ToothyCritter
Posted 8/20/2019 5:00 PM (#945663 - in reply to #945474)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle





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Location: Roscoe IL
Musky Brian - 8/16/2019 8:15 PM

The super thick stuff alone with nothing else in the mix does not yield good results in my experience, occasional flashes at best, usually not very big ones. There’s a lot of that stuff in Big Narrows. In my experience it had to be mixed in with something else...a few good underwater boulders, bullrush, part of a point, a tree, a beaver hut ...something.

The one piece of green I think people overlook out there are actually lily pads, especially sparse patches


I was able to find pads, but it was always in a shallow bay with deeper water or current a good distance away. The Northern were there and some Smallies, but no Muskies for us. Most muskies we say or got were related to Wood & boulders near deeper water or current. Best fish seen was on a day marker way out in deepwater bay working a crankbait on the windblown breaklines. Got spooked on the second 8 and never saw it again even gong back during primetime.

Miss it already. The cuts on my hands are all healed and I’m ready for more.
kjgmh
Posted 8/26/2019 3:40 PM (#945934 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle





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Location: Hayward, WI
Fished NW Angle last week for the 2nd time. Our boat (2 adults and a 13 year old) netted 23 fish for the week with a big of 50.75" and 8 45"+. 15 of the fish came on figure 8s, some not until at least 15 go rounds. Wind was wicked for 3 days, but we managed to fish all the spots that we wanted. Did find more weeds than last year, but not many fish relating to them. My 13 year old son got a fat 45", for his biggest ever, and got 2 fish on well executed figure 8s. He also felt the pain of having a 47"ish fish come off just a second before getting it in the net.



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wisriverrat
Posted 8/26/2019 5:15 PM (#945939 - in reply to #943180)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




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Location: On the River
I also fished the Angle last week, I believe I was right across the dock from kjgmh
Fished alone caught 8 a 49" 2-48"s a 46" 3-41"s and a 37
Seven of the eight were caught on figure eights.
cwestly
Posted 8/28/2019 3:57 PM (#946075 - in reply to #945939)
Subject: Re: Northwest Angle




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Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
Twas a good week on LOTW last week for us too! My wife and I fished out of Spruce Island Camp I finished with 49, 48.5, 45,44 and a few others in the low 40's. Two biggest fish were caught figure eights. Most of our fish were on rock reefs or points adjacent to some of the bigger basins. You could see baitfish starting to school up as the water temps dropped mid week and the muskies were always near by.