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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | We all search so hard for the "next secret weapon" or tactic to catch fishes, but what are some forgotten lures from days gone by or tactics YOU think should get more attention?
Personally, I think twitching cranks (divers or flat sided) gets sidelined too often! Give me a husky sized Cisco Kid versus waters over about 7' deep and I'm confident I can get something going. |
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Location: Waukee, IA | Thick brush or weed growth? I'm throwing a jig-a-beast with a paddle tail. The only problem is the hooking rate isn't stellar, but it has converted fish for me so I keep using it. |
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Location: NorthCentral WI | Suick! I specifically love the HI versions. As the market has been flooded with high end custom dive and rise baits the Suick sometimes seems forgotten. |
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| Mepps Giant Killer. Something about that thing that still produces, but gets overlooked with all the new double this and double that bucktails. |
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Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI | I'll second the Mepps Giant Killer. My son has been racking up some nice high-40 inch fish with it the last few years. Biggest being a 49.5. |
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| Fishing a large suspending glider really slow, as in several seconds between each jerk. |
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Location: oswego, il | Agressive rips with twitch and jerkbaits. Speed and pause kill. It's work and few are willing to commit very long. Most stay with their comfort food tactics.
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| ToddM - 6/6/2019 1:54 PM
Agressive rips with twitch and jerkbaits. Speed and pause kill. It's work and few are willing to commit very long. Most stay with their comfort food tactics.
Would you rather eat a salad or chew on a corn stalk to get your vegetables? Not poo-pooing the technique, it WORKS. But who wants to do that all #*^@ day?
Edited by esoxaddict 6/6/2019 2:24 PM
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| spinner baits. surprising how many people don't own any and have never used them. don't need any specialized equipment, can cast all day or troll, all times of the year, cover any water depth, and all kinds of fish like them. |
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| I'm a Pike guy. Love a Lazy Ike either throwing or trolling. |
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Location: oswego, il | esoxaddict - 6/6/2019 2:16 PM
ToddM - 6/6/2019 1:54 PM
Agressive rips with twitch and jerkbaits. Speed and pause kill. It's work and few are willing to commit very long. Most stay with their comfort food tactics.
Would you rather eat a salad or chew on a corn stalk to get your vegetables? Not poo-pooing the technique, it WORKS. But who wants to do that all #*^@ day?
Me, because I will outfish you. |
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| I'll tell you for me I love the suick thrillers in 10 inch...I picked up their new frankensuick too I'll give it a try when the water warms. I also enjoy throwing suicks wabull that's my favorite glide bait....As far as trolling is concerned I'm a big fan of spoonplugging. I read Buck Perry's book many years ago and I have used some of his pointers trolling muskie and I have had great success. |
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Location: Forest Lake, Mn | Wades Wobbler
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| Massive spoons (8" or 9") |
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| The largest Johnson silver minnow tipped with a grub, fish'n the slop. Kdawg |
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Location: Athens, Ohio | One of my favorite Kentucky guides keeps getting on me abt always throwing my little Muskie Treats jerk baits.
Can't help it, I've got a good third of my fish on them, including my biggest-so-far. m
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/Kj5bJBDR/DSCN0890.jpg[/img] |
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Location: Contrarian Island | ToddM
esoxaddict - 6/6/2019 2:16 PM
ToddM - 6/6/2019 1:54 PM
Agressive rips with twitch and jerkbaits. Speed and pause kill. It's work and few are willing to commit very long. Most stay with their comfort food tactics.
Would you rather eat a salad or chew on a corn stalk to get your vegetables? Not poo-pooing the technique, it WORKS. But who wants to do that all #*^@ day?
Me, because I will outfish you.
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Yah cuz that would be hard to do haha 
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Frog colored hand grenades! Still have to find the fish though. Seriously, the Giant Killer comments above ring a good bell with me. Got one of my giants on one.
Suicks too, are not used like they used to be. Get one that has "it" and you will score plenty.
So many new baits lately, it is almost impossible to keep up with the, but ya gotta love those Beaver videos! |
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Location: Roscoe IL | mikie - 6/7/2019 7:15 AM
One of my favorite Kentucky guides keeps getting on me abt always throwing my little Muskie Treats jerk baits.
Can't help it, I've got a good third of my fish on them, including my biggest-so-far. m
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Location: Athens, Ohio | Wow, one of the later models! Sweeet color pattern. let me know if you ever wish to sell it, I think I'm down to my 18th Treat, now. m |
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Location: Duluth | Giant Storm Flatstick fished like a husky jerk.
Doing an experiment this year where I throw Spinner all season instead of bucktails. Expect my hook up and fish caught to be about the same, but want to see if theres any difference. |
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Location: Roscoe IL | mikie - 6/7/2019 8:57 AM
Wow, one of the later models! Sweeet color pattern. let me know if you ever wish to sell it, I think I'm down to my 18th Treat, now. m
Send me some 4 way chili from skyline and it's yours  I grew up eating that and can't get it here.. Same with Goetta, miss that with my eggs in the morning.. Need to go visit family in Ohio soon! |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Rad Dog tandem. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | The ol Wooden Mojo Weagle,.... Still works pretty good... Wooden Pacemaker.
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| ToddM - 6/6/2019 6:38 PM
esoxaddict - 6/6/2019 2:16 PM
ToddM - 6/6/2019 1:54 PM
Agressive rips with twitch and jerkbaits. Speed and pause kill. It's work and few are willing to commit very long. Most stay with their comfort food tactics.
Would you rather eat a salad or chew on a corn stalk to get your vegetables? Not poo-pooing the technique, it WORKS. But who wants to do that all #*^@ day?
Me, because I will outfish you.
until you blow out your elbow , your shoulder, or both. But then I guess you can always troll... |
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Location: The desert | ToddM - 6/6/2019 6:38 PM
esoxaddict - 6/6/2019 2:16 PM
ToddM - 6/6/2019 1:54 PM
Agressive rips with twitch and jerkbaits. Speed and pause kill. It's work and few are willing to commit very long. Most stay with their comfort food tactics.
Would you rather eat a salad or chew on a corn stalk to get your vegetables? Not poo-pooing the technique, it WORKS. But who wants to do that all #*^@ day?
Me, because I will outfish you.
The minute your boat hits the water you’ve already accomplished that. |
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Location: oswego, il | esoxaddict - 6/7/2019 3:34 PM
ToddM - 6/6/2019 6:38 PM
esoxaddict - 6/6/2019 2:16 PM
ToddM - 6/6/2019 1:54 PM
Agressive rips with twitch and jerkbaits. Speed and pause kill. It's work and few are willing to commit very long. Most stay with their comfort food tactics.
Would you rather eat a salad or chew on a corn stalk to get your vegetables? Not poo-pooing the technique, it WORKS. But who wants to do that all #*^@ day?
Me, because I will outfish you.
until you blow out your elbow , your shoulder, or both. But then I guess you can always troll...
So far so good!:-) |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | Top H2O - 6/7/2019 10:09 AM
The ol Wooden Mojo Weagle,.... Still works pretty good... Wooden Pacemaker.
Another vote for the wooden Pacemaker. I have one that is beat to he11 and still produces. |
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| Bondy - 6/6/2019 9:05 PM
Deep
110% deep! I intentionally fish deeper than the masses most of the tine...The original bondy on lakes has put multiple 48”+ fish in my boat. Getting baits deeper than 10 feet saves many days/weeks for me... I absolutelylove a topwater bite and have 100+ top water baits..but the time I throw them shrinks every year... conditions (including angling pressure) need to be right... or you should be fishing deep
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Location: Ames, Iowa | Reef Hawgs and Weighted Suicks. I get a lot of Suick follows. And I second the spinnerbait post. I trolled into a hookup/netted fish last summer and a nice follow from another. My biggest fish came on a jerked Reef Hawg. |
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| ToddM - 6/6/2019 1:54 PM
Aggressive rips with twitch and jerkbaits. Speed and pause kill. It's work and few are willing to commit very long. Most stay with their comfort food tactics.
I agree, my favorite and most productive presentation. I twitch and pause or rip and pause lipped baits in any and all conditions and catch muskies. I fish with club members who say they don't fish lipped baits anymore, only gliders, bucktails and plastics. Guys are amazed when I tell them I'm catching them on $25 baits. So many in our sport spending fortunes on "must have" gliders for $100-$150
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Location: Illinois | I also agree on the spinnerbait comments. Especially early in the year until it gets hot I’ve had decent success with them for numbers but no fish over 40”. This is for shallower slop kind of fishing. |
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| Interesting how only two replies are about tactics. Bondy deep and one to agrees. My opinion is that we get too caught up in the "Bait" over why are the fish where they are or what made them follow or strike. At the same time I am a believer in confidence baits, ones that you know how to work perfectly. Would like to see more answers on tactics. Open water basin fish? Fish suspended off structure? Fish using deep weed lines? Slop related fish? Also, when these topics may apply. Been following a couple of people who are using smaller baits and much lighter tackle and putting a lot of fish in the boat. |
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| ToddM - 6/6/2019 2:54 PM
Agressive rips with twitch and jerkbaits. Speed and pause kill. It's work and few are willing to commit very long. Most stay with their comfort food tactics.
It is a bit of work and also requires practice, timing - patience with the pause. This technique brings in the most fish. |
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| trolling large tandem spinnerbaits |
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Location: Racine, Wi | I have to say throwing cranks. I catch more fish on cranks every year than blades typically (obviously that can change based on the weather, etc) but I rarely see guys throwing cranks (depthraiders, triple ds, etc) and have slid in behind other boats throwing blades and caught fish.
That and counting baits down. Fishing off breaks targeting baitfish and hooks that we may see and getting baits (dawgs, dussas, bondys) down to them.
Seems many guys like to pound weeds over and over, when the fish can be where there boats are and all they need to do is fish parallel with baits that get down. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | Jigging. don't see many do it in WI ... definitely under utilized .. |
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Location: Racine, Wi | BNelson - 6/21/2019 9:23 AM
Jigging. don't see many do it in WI ... definitely under utilized ..
It seems to be trendy. I've seen boats doing it on Pewee on a fairly regular basis, and know of a few others that do it elsewhere, but I don't see many doing it. Definitely works and is a GREAT workout. |
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| You can't even catch salmon Tuffy1 (aka Skinny Tin Can). LOL Rolling back into the musky game here. I will have to go with Mepps (too small for most guys, but catch big fish) and fishing open water suspendos. Dusting off and cleaning up a couple good old DDD's I found buried. Now, to get into the deep water game again too. |
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| tuffy1 - 6/21/2019 9:12 AM
I have to say throwing cranks. I catch more fish on cranks every year than blades typically (obviously that can change based on the weather, etc) but I rarely see guys throwing cranks (depthraiders, triple ds, etc) and have slid in behind other boats throwing blades and caught fish.
That and counting baits down. Fishing off breaks targeting baitfish and hooks that we may see and getting baits (dawgs, dussas, bondys) down to them.
Seems many guys like to pound weeds over and over, when the fish can be where there boats are and all they need to do is fish parallel with baits that get down.
This is something i tell myself i need to do every year, and i never really get going. I have so much confidence with cranks for other species but have never been able to get to the musky crank game with any consistency. |
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Location: Racine, Wi | Coach13 - 6/24/2019 12:24 PM
You can't even catch salmon Tuffy1 (aka Skinny Tin Can). LOL Rolling back into the musky game here. I will have to go with Mepps (too small for most guys, but catch big fish) and fishing open water suspendos. Dusting off and cleaning up a couple good old DDD's I found buried. Now, to get into the deep water game again too.
LOL, no kidding!! Been a tough year out there so far this year. marking lots, catching a few. I'll figure it out eventually. Just need more time on the water for sure!!
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| One tactic that I used to do fairly often was trolling spinnerbaits at a relatively high speed over the tops of weed flats and weed edges. The trick was to have the spinnerbait make contact with the weeds without constant fouling. The heavier version Rad Dog (single or tandem) at ~4.3-4.5mph worked pretty well although I'm sure most spinnerbaits would work. Adding weight obviously allows you to troll ever faster, although too fast and the bait will roll and get fouled very easily.
Obviously, the tactic works best before weeds get matted at their peak growth. But it sure allows you to cover water and I can recall a fair number of multiple fish outings. Seemed to work well under a variety of circumstances, but I always thought particularly effective when fishing was otherwise slow since as a tactic involving cover collisions it would be more apt to produce a reaction-type strike.
Not a tactic that is new or novel in any way....but can't say that I see many other folks trying this. Definitely works. |
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| How far back do you troll your spinnerbaits? This sounds like a prop wash technique. |
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| bwalsh - 7/2/2019 7:38 PM
How far back do you troll your spinnerbaits? This sounds like a prop wash technique.
typically 40-45', but sometimes less and sometimes more depending upon the weed depth/thickness and preferred speed |
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