10" jakes, junk or repairable??
firstsixfeet
Posted 10/18/2003 9:21 AM (#85299)
Subject: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??




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I just received a 10" jake in a nice reverse perch paint job and also had another around that I went to the trouble of repainting. Jason Long, my hero, has once again inspired me to try this bait until my shoulder goes to jelly(well, probably not nearly that long). After repainting one of my baits into a very beautiful and labor intensive "Appalachian Spring" pattern, I find that the SOB leaks. I had heard from other sources that all 10 " jakes leak, but I was not aware that mine leaked, probably because I was too lazy to throw it more than 5 times a day. The action that I thought might be useful to me(whooshing off the surface down to 2 feet deep) will not be very repeatable if I have to keep shaking water out of the bait. Now, my question is, if you put epoxy in that little slot above the lip does that cover the leak, or does it leak out of the slot below the lip too, or is there another source of fluid overload for this bait? If that doesn't repair it, can I get the same action out of a large grandma? Do they replace all their leaky baits?


Posted 10/18/2003 10:30 AM (#85302 - in reply to #85299)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??


F6F, I had the same problem on some of mine!(not all jakes leak either)I just dried them out in the basement and used exopy on the slot and the hole behind the lip and they are perfect.It seems they never leak at the line tie even though it looks that way while draining them.I did go to the hardware store and got exopy for plastics,its long dry time seems to work/hold-up the best!Save those custom colors or just send them to ME! Good-luck!
firstsixfeet
Posted 10/18/2003 3:19 PM (#85308 - in reply to #85299)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??




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Is that a soft gel type or rock hard when it dries Handy?
sworrall
Posted 10/19/2003 6:10 AM (#85321 - in reply to #85308)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
 5 minute epoxy will work just fine. I use that quite a bit on my plastic and wood baits with pretty fair bonding success. Rough up the area you are sealing with sandpaper first, and it will be repaired for good.
Evar D
Posted 10/19/2003 12:00 PM (#85330 - in reply to #85299)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??




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Location: Rockford Il 61108
Ive thrown my jake for two years now and never had a problem with it. Ill keep an eye on it though. Thanks

Keep Plugging
Stan Durst
Posted 10/21/2003 11:11 AM (#85524 - in reply to #85299)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??




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Location: Jamestown, Pa.
F6F,
If that reverse perch came from me, and it is leaking, return it to me for a replacement. I will take prompt care of it for you. No problem and I apologize for it.
firstsixfeet
Posted 10/21/2003 9:30 PM (#85592 - in reply to #85299)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??




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No, it is a one I think I bought in a group of plugs over the internet. The reverse perch doesn't leak. I don't understand how exactly these things leak, it must be an internal problem. The one I have that I repainted that leaks, absolutely fills up with water. When it does you get this beautiful walk the dog action but it goes down out of sight which usually means trouble where I fish. The water in them must get past some internal barrier because you can't shake it out enough to float it, must be obstructed inside once it enters. If I could get Jason Long or Jason Schillinger to see how this baby works they would probably take it off my hands. Of course they would have to keep it under their pillow in winter.
jlong
Posted 10/22/2003 6:25 AM (#85602 - in reply to #85299)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??





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Location: Black Creek, WI
FSF,
Its amazing what a little weight to a Jake will do, ay?

If you can't shake out the water you can always try filling it with foam. Get a can of Great Stuff polyurethane insulation, drill a 1/4" hole on one end, a 1/32 hole on the other as a vent, and fill until the foam starts squirting out the vent hole. Let the foam set and then seal the holes with 5 minute epoxy. If you can't find the actual leak... this process will prevent too much water from getting in and still allow you to use the lure.

Otherwise, save that Jake until your next trip to WI and I'll gladly take it off your hands!
RAZE1
Posted 10/22/2003 7:05 AM (#85603 - in reply to #85299)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??





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Location: NeverNever Lake
Take a pair of pliers and squeeze it in the middle between the hangers. If you can't get water to squirt out the hole it's possessed. Then squeeze it while you apply epoxy and release. It will suck epoxy into the wheep hole.

Grind off that little reinforcement under that trolling lip and it will come through the water a little easier. That's why we remove the lips from our Grandmas and replace them with thin aluminum. More action with less effort.

What the heck do I know, I been throwin Mag Dawgs for the last month. Is my Rotor Cuff junk or repairable.
matt
Posted 10/22/2003 7:35 AM (#85604 - in reply to #85603)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??




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Location: IL
As everybody's attourney, I HIGHLY advise NOT to follow jlongs suggestions in regards to using 'great stuff'.

Not that it doesnt work... That is not it at all. It works GREAT.

Lets just say I almost got divorced for what I did to our garage, kitchen and patio when applying it.

Great Stuff is PURE evil.. PURE EVIL!!!!!

matt
Stan Durst
Posted 10/22/2003 6:21 PM (#85653 - in reply to #85299)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??




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Location: Jamestown, Pa.
F6F,
Glad to hear it wasn't the Reverse Perch. Here is a little info that will help you get the water out.
Hold the lure level, with the back up, ( just as it would be if coming through the water ) take a hairdryer and put it on warm or medium and warm the lure up until you see water drip out. The air trapped in the lure will expand and push the water out. Just be careful not to get the lure hot.
Now if you could get enough water in it to make the lure suspend than get it out right away than do the epoxy bit on it you would have Jason knocking on your door.
Hey Jlong, how you doing?

Edited by Stan Durst 10/22/2003 6:23 PM
jlong
Posted 10/22/2003 7:22 PM (#85656 - in reply to #85299)
Subject: RE: 10" jakes, junk or repairable??





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Location: Black Creek, WI
Yes, Matt is correct. Great Stuff works great... but is EXTREMELY messy. If you've ever super glued your fingers together... that is nothing compared to what this stuff can do (ha ha).

The key is to be very careful and NOT make a mess. If you do make a mess... do not.... I repeat.... do not try to clean it up until it is dry. When you spray it into the lure... do it slowly and watch carefully for the stuff to start oozing out the vent hole. Stop immediately. The foam will continue to expand and will sometimes ooze out all over... but if you just leave it alone until it is dry/solid... it breaks away very easily and cleanly.

Oh yah... and one last thing... this trick kills the rattle.