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| morning, was looking to replace my boat trailer tires, have always run goodyear marathons without trouble, but of course, they no longer make them..
thought about the endurances, but they dont come in my size, trailer has 13s, wish it had 14s, but it does not
came across the carlisles and wondered if anyone had good or bad experiences with them? looking at the 185/80 r 13 HDs.
and are the C1 and D1 load ratings?
also, anyone have any experience with Maxxis tires??
thanks!
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| Years ago you never heard a good word about Carlisle trailer tires. Zip, nada, not a good word.
However this was years ago and maybe they are better now. Personally I would never knowingly buy them. I'm sure others will chip in with good results. |
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| Brian Hoffies - 12/28/2018 10:21 AM
Years ago you never heard a good word about Carlisle trailer tires. Zip, nada, not a good word.
However this was years ago and maybe they are better now. Personally I would never knowingly buy them. I'm sure others will chip in with good results.
well crap, thats not good.. the place i talked to had those, Titan and Hi-run.. which i hadnt heard of either... the other ones i saw were power king by towmax?
again, never heard of those either..
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| In the past there were a ton of stories about Carlisles failing. However, several years ago they went through a redesign and seem to have improved dramatically. I got them on a new boat trailer about 3 or 4 years ago and was apprehensive, but they have been perfect. You can also find reviews on them that seem to place them at least as good as, if not better, than most trailer tires. The biggest thing with trailer tires is to keep them at the right pressure and replace them every 4 years even if the tread is in good shape. No trailer tire lasts forever and for a couple hundred dollars, it is cheap insurance for keeping you off of the side of a busy freeway. |
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| Conservation Guy - 12/28/2018 10:44 AM
In the past there were a ton of stories about Carlisles failing. However, several years ago they went through a redesign and seem to have improved dramatically. I got them on a new boat trailer about 3 or 4 years ago and was apprehensive, but they have been perfect. You can also find reviews on them that seem to place them at least as good as, if not better, than most trailer tires. The biggest thing with trailer tires is to keep them at the right pressure and replace them every 4 years even if the tread is in good shape. No trailer tire lasts forever and for a couple hundred dollars, it is cheap insurance for keeping you off of the side of a busy freeway.
well thats good to know.. do you trailer long distances?
and i was looking at going from a C rated to a D rated load rating, and i saw that the max psi increases from 50 to like 65-70.. i ran the Cs around 45 cold, what the heck should i run the Ds? |
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| mikie - 12/28/2018 10:55 AM
I had a Carlisle blow each time I'd take my boat and trailer North. Went to Marathons, problem solved. m
was this recently?
and i have marathons on the boat now, the problem is they dont make em anymore!
that was the plan originally. now im scrambling to find a replacement.. |
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| Yes, I do travel long distances with the boat - 3+ hours for my trips up north. Additionally I am traveling a lot fishing metro lakes which tends to be a lot of stop and go at times, which can also be more wear and tear for a tire than cruising at highway speeds. I have a Skeeter 1825 with a single axle trailer, so those tires are under quite a bit of weight (looking at close to 4000# when loaded). I tend to keep trailer tires at the top of their recommended psi ratings as heat is the enemy for trailer tires and the higher psi means less flexing and less heat. |
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| Just a heads-up, a lot of folks started moving away from Marathons once they moved production over-seas...the quality seemed to nose dive. |
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| Conservation Guy - 12/28/2018 11:07 AM
Yes, I do travel long distances with the boat - 3+ hours for my trips up north. Additionally I am traveling a lot fishing metro lakes which tends to be a lot of stop and go at times, which can also be more wear and tear for a tire than cruising at highway speeds. I have a Skeeter 1825 with a single axle trailer, so those tires are under quite a bit of weight (looking at close to 4000# when loaded). I tend to keep trailer tires at the top of their recommended psi ratings as heat is the enemy for trailer tires and the higher psi means less flexing and less heat.
ah ok, i usually do two longgg trips per season. about 12 hours north, and 18 hours south, so im always keeping a close eye on my tires!
do you know if you have load C or D rated tires?
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| Conservation Guy - 12/28/2018 11:09 AM
Just a heads-up, a lot of folks started moving away from Marathons once they moved production over-seas...the quality seemed to nose dive.
yes ive seen this as well, was that move recent? the marathons i have now were made in 14 i believe..
and many said they went to the good year endurances, but they dont make em in a 13 inch that i can find at least.. |
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| The new Goodyear Endurance tires are highly rated now and are all made in the USA |
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| I think they are C, as it has a 50psi max. |
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| 4amuskie - 12/28/2018 11:15 AM
The new Goodyear Endurance tires are highly rated now and are all made in the USA
yes that was the direction i was going to go, but they dont make em in 13 inch..
again, i wish my trailer had 14s, but it does not for some reason..
boat is fairly heavy at around 2500 pounds.. |
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| ah ok, thanks..
was thinking of moving up to D rated, but not sure if my tire pumps at home could even get them to 65 or 70 psi! |
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| what about Maxxis trailer tires? anyone used those?? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I'm using Titans on the Lund trailer with zero complaints. Ran the Towmax on the little Tuffy a few thousand with no issues, either. |
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Location: Twin Cities, MN | Dave T. - 12/28/2018 12:01 PM
what about Maxxis trailer tires? anyone used those??
I ran Maxxis for quite a few years. Very good tire for me.
I had to replace my tires this last year and went with the new Goodyear's as my local tire place had them and not the Maxxis.
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Location: NE Ohio | my lund 1875 came with a shorelander trailer that came equipped with carlisle tires. load range D and 65 psi. i haven't towed more than an hour one way but i've had zero problems in two years, and thats fishing 5 days/week from april until november. they are wearing very little and evenly but i do rotate them once a year. |
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| Also -- some tires are rated HIGH SPEED RADIALS---- this is what you want if available and you are going to tow 70+ mph... |
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| thanks much for the replies
looks like i really cant go wrong, just was used to going with what ive used so i was confident in em |
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| pklingen - 12/28/2018 6:12 PM
my lund 1875 came with a shorelander trailer that came equipped with carlisle tires. load range D and 65 psi. i haven't towed more than an hour one way but i've had zero problems in two years, and thats fishing 5 days/week from april until november. they are wearing very little and evenly but i do rotate them once a year.
do you take em on the highway?
and how much air do you put in them?
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| You can never have too much tire. Durability goes up with load range, so a D is basically a beefier tire than a C. Nobody ever looks at speed ratings, but its worth checking. I've found myself doing close to 90 on tires rated for 60. You're asking for tread separation. In the words of a friend who spent 20 years in the tire business: "dude... #*#*ty tires can kill you. Don't buy cheap tires. Buy cheap beer, cheap clothes, cheap gas, cheap dope, or cheap hookers if you wanna be cheap." |
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| esoxaddict - 12/28/2018 9:00 PM
You can never have too much tire. Durability goes up with load range, so a D is basically a beefier tire than a C. Nobody ever looks at speed ratings, but its worth checking. I've found myself doing close to 90 on tires rated for 60. You're asking for tread separation. In the words of a friend who spent 20 years in the tire business: "dude... #*#*ty tires can kill you. Don't buy cheap tires. Buy cheap beer, cheap clothes, cheap gas, cheap dope, or cheap hookers if you wanna be cheap."
oh i agree, not afraid to spend a few bucks, but which ones? so many choices out there
im leaning toward the maxxis as of now, but i dont know.. :/
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | My former Shoreland'r came with Maxxis tires. They lasted me about 3 - 4 years if memory serves me correctly. Blew one on a trip north, then replaced both tires immediately after that trip....only because one blew and the other was showing time to replace (dry rot was showing on the tire)
I wouldn't hesitate to get maxxis again. I did run Greenball after my marathon's went out on that shoreland'r, and they did well too. Last set I put on that trailer were Endurance, but like you said, only go down to 14" tires.
I had towmasters on an RV and they did well. No issues whatsoever.
I'd day Dave, knowing your rig I'd go load range D... My gut says your trailer is a 2000 pound trailer?
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| VMS - 12/29/2018 7:46 PM
My former Shoreland'r came with Maxxis tires. They lasted me about 3 - 4 years if memory serves me correctly. Blew one on a trip north, then replaced both tires immediately after that trip....only because one blew and the other was showing time to replace (dry rot was showing on the tire)
I wouldn't hesitate to get maxxis again. I did run Greenball after my marathon's went out on that shoreland'r, and they did well too. Last set I put on that trailer were Endurance, but like you said, only go down to 14" tires.
I had towmasters on an RV and they did well. No issues whatsoever.
I'd day Dave, knowing your rig I'd go load range D... My gut says your trailer is a 2000 pound trailer?
Steve
hey Steve, ya i believe its right around the 2000 pound size trailer, and the only brand that i can find a D load range is the Carlisles. i was leaning toward the maxxis because of the past stories of the Carlisles, but again, i dont see those in the D load range.. i was always a little concerned that that trailer was right at the max weight because the rig weighs about 2400 lbs total.
so if i go with the Ds, it will have to be the Carlisles, and if i did the D rated, does that require a different rim? i was reading somewhere and they mentioned the rim psi rating as well. didnt know that could be an issue. |
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| I have a 20' glass boat on tandem trailer, my Carlisle tires lasted 20,000 miles and were trash ( running harrowed time since 16k), I put endurance tires on 2 years ago and have about 28k on them and they are toast.
The good year endurance tires are awesome! And I Am a person who says you don't air tires up to the max, in Goodyear's website there is a chart saying psi to load per tire. My trailer calls for 50psi and while I believe that to be a bit low I ran 57psi and it worked great.
The endurance tires are good to 87 mph, and that is really important with our interstate speeds, Carlisle was 67mph this is probably why they is not survive |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hi Dave,
The D rating tire will still fit your rim as the size/width of the rim is determined by the width of the tire. You'll be good with the rims you have...
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| VMS - 12/30/2018 12:43 PM
Hi Dave,
The D rating tire will still fit your rim as the size/width of the rim is determined by the width of the tire. You'll be good with the rims you have...
Steve
hey Steve,
i wasnt worried about the size of the tire, someone mentioned that the rim might not be able to handle the higher psi if i went to a D rated? i didnt think that was an issue
and im hearing a lot of scary stories with the Carlisles, so may just get a maxxis because ive heard nothing bad with those. yet.. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Just get a whole new rig. 
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| VMS - 12/30/2018 2:14 PM
Just get a whole new rig.
Steve
there ya go!!
have come close a few times, but nothing yet..
i like having a boat thats paid off! |
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| I've also had very good luck with Maxxis. My Shorelander came with them in the 13" size. I was going to go with the Endurance but found out they didn't make that size at the time. (Maybe they still don't?)
I was planning to buy the Endurance at a Goodyear dealer I trust but only because I wasn't sure who was a Maxxis dealer in the Twin Cities. Found out Discount Tire sells them so I went that route. |
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| I needed to replace my Marathons this spring. Did an epic ton of research, and decided to go with Kenda Karrier. They are C range tires with higher load rating and speed rating. They actually ran smoother than the Marathons, and no issues, including the 12hr drive to LOTW. |
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Location: midwest | I’m running Carlisle HD’s on my Ranger trailer. Three years and so far they have been good. I keep my towing speeds at 67-72 or so and make sure to check the tire pressure often. I’ve taken several trips into Canada (14 hours each way) as well as numerous trips that involve 5 hour runs each way. Wear is consistent so far and they seem to be good |
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| flyingfish8604 - 12/30/2018 11:05 PM
I needed to replace my Marathons this spring. Did an epic ton of research, and decided to go with Kenda Karrier. They are C range tires with higher load rating and speed rating. They actually ran smoother than the Marathons, and no issues, including the 12hr drive to LOTW.
hadnt heard of those, just looked em up, they dont come in my size.. dang it.
again, think im going the maxxis route, havent heard anything bad, so i better get some before it do!
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| Ernie - 12/30/2018 8:16 PM
I've also had very good luck with Maxxis. My Shorelander came with them in the 13" size. I was going to go with the Endurance but found out they didn't make that size at the time. (Maybe they still don't?)
I was planning to buy the Endurance at a Goodyear dealer I trust but only because I wasn't sure who was a Maxxis dealer in the Twin Cities. Found out Discount Tire sells them so I went that route.
ah thanks Ernie, thats the size i need, so i think ill try these because you cant get the Endurance in 13 inch..
do you do any long highway hauling?
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| Go to a 14 inch D rated tire if you can. You can get rims cheap online. Higher weight and speed ratings. You'll need a good 2.5 to 3 inches of clearance around your wheels. I trailer 17 hours to MN and wanted the extra insurance. I got Kumho 857s, but Endurance came out right as I was getting them and are rated good. Mine have around 7k on them and have been solid. I researched it and Carlisle was not good. Maxxis was Ok. I went with Kumho from a professional's recommendation. |
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| ARmuskyaddict - 1/1/2019 5:24 PM
Go to a 14 inch D rated tire if you can. You can get rims cheap online. Higher weight and speed ratings. You'll need a good 2.5 to 3 inches of clearance around your wheels. I trailer 17 hours to MN and wanted the extra insurance. I got Kumho 857s, but Endurance came out right as I was getting them and are rated good. Mine have around 7k on them and have been solid. I researched it and Carlisle was not good. Maxxis was Ok. I went with Kumho from a professional's recommendation.
im going to look into going up a size as well, but i dont think i have the space around the fender to do that. if so, ill try the maxxis..
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| Heres what I did go to etrailer and look at taskmaster radial trailer tires I have a 620 ranger and I wanted better tires than my old goodyear marathons. So I got Taskmasters ST215/75R14 are D rated marathons are only C rated. So far their great. I like the fact that they D rated and can hold more weight because my 620 is heavy. They are the same size as the marathons that were on my trailer so they fit with no problems. Ive had Carlisle tires and had a blow out and so has a friend so I wont get them again. The taskmasters are to be ran at 65psi my old marathons at 50psi and only rated for 65 mph were the taskmasters are rated for 81 mph. I only pull my boat at 65 mph I see all the speed demons can go by me and I chuckle when I see them on the shoulder with blow out trailer tires. |
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| Sorry Dave. Haven't checked in on this thread for awhile.
I do 99% local towing. Usually just one or two trips up north a year. I've had Maxxis for 9+ years and they've been treated me very well.
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| I recommend Roadstar set of 2 trailer tire + rim 13?. Really happy with this wheel and tire, nice price, nice wheel and tire and nice shipping. Be alert though that if you have an older trailer the wheel sizing may be different. I assumed that all 13" wheels with a 5 bolt 4.5 pattern would be a standard wheel type and sizing but they are not. I purchased these for my older 1972 EZLoader boat trailer. The recess of depth of the hub is different and the ring size of the hub is larger. The depth difference had the tires rubbing on the inner edge of the outside of the fender and the ring size made them harder to bolt on. |
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| I am running Maxxis on my Rangertrail Trailer, with a 681 on it. Next year will be the 5th year with them without an issue. only 1 long trip to L.O.W but several 2 hour trips into the U.P.. I would buy them again, the trailer is out of the sun , except while fishing, but I would buy them again. Best of Luck. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hiya!!
Might want to check the dates of the previous responses here and there...This dated back to January of 2019...
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| Fishysam - 12/30/2018 6:54 AM
I have a 20' glass boat on tandem trailer, my Carlisle tires lasted 20,000 miles and were trash ( running harrowed time since 16k), I put endurance tires on 2 years ago and have about 28k on them and they are toast.
The good year endurance tires are awesome! And I Am a person who says you don't air tires up to the max, in Goodyear's website there is a chart saying psi to load per tire. My trailer calls for 50psi and while I believe that to be a bit low I ran 57psi and it worked great.
The endurance tires are good to 87 mph, and that is really important with our interstate speeds, Carlisle was 67mph this is probably why they is not survive
Since this came back up, I have since gotten my second set of Goodyear endurance tires, these have over 30k on them and are still looking good, I did rebuild my suspension with "dexter wet bolts/shackles" and wow is that nice. The shackles are 4 times as thick and the bolts are all greasable , the ride is more smooth as the factory hardware was ovaled out and would slam up and down before the springs would move. Highly recommend the wet bolts kit. My trailer must track more straight with the rebuild causing my tires to last longer. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | Something I would like to add is that both tires and trailers are usually sized close to the size of the rig without allowing much room to grow. If you add a battery, a kicker, trolling motor upgrade, or all the equipment and hundreds of lures we muskie fishemen tend to bring, you may be close to overloading your tires. That is exactly what happened to my last boat, a Lund Pro V 1900. When I checked the weight of the loaded boat axle on a Cat Scale, it was actually just over the combined rating of the tires. I upgraded the wheels and tires, as well as fenders to accomodate the upgrade. I also upgraded the suspension through a local trailer repair shop. And btw, Goodyear Endurance all day. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | hahaha!!!
I think they might have gotten a bit better....hopefully...
I'm running the endurance tires as well...love them... |
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| Goodyear endurance, D rated and made in the USA. |
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| I ran Tow Max with no problems
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boat trailer tires, carlisle any good? edit, Maxxis??