New Lure, color opinions wanted
Muskie Treats
Posted 10/2/2003 4:03 PM (#83682)
Subject: New Lure, color opinions wanted





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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Cady and I have created a new bait that runs like an Undertaker (but better IMOP) that is much larger. Right now we're planning on debuting it during the Chicago Musky Expo. One thing we would like everyone's oppinion on is what colors would you buy? I've got Todd Cleveland (Phantom guy) lined up to do the hard coat and paint job so quality will be assured. We want to limit the selection to 5-6 colors to start with and we'll see where it goes from there. Steve, it'd be great if you can setup a pole for this message for me since I'm a computer dunce. MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!!!!!!!!
52isntbigenough
Posted 10/2/2003 4:10 PM (#83683 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color oppinions wanted





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Location: Germantown & Land O Lakes WI
1) Sucker
2) Walleye
3) FireTiger
4) Chart top/White belly
5) All black
The Handyman
Posted 10/2/2003 5:01 PM (#83694 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color oppinions wanted




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New bait,thats great! For colors I look for colors and would like to see new color combo`s that are not just copies of the same old,sameold! If you get my drift! As of now I have 500+ musky-baits,as probably do alot of others and for myself, I don`t spend any more money on close copies of things I already own! Anything that looks different at the shows this winter, I will buy! Otherwise I will save my cash as I am done building a collection of different baits that all look alike! It`s just money not well spent! Just my opinion, looking for freaky different!
onelastcast
Posted 10/2/2003 5:41 PM (#83704 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color oppinions wanted




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Location: Oshawa, Ontario
Great news, always like to try out new baits. I have heard Todd (Phantom Guy) is a busy guy, and while he does great work you may want to contact Stan Durst of Durst Products - I hear his work is top notch and it is his specialty, not a side line for another manufacturer. No disrespect intended for Todd.
Anyway, my colours are;
Perch white belly
Black perch white belly
Walleye white belly
Sucker white belly
Black perch white belly (I know I already named it, but it WORKS!!)
NUT
Posted 10/2/2003 5:45 PM (#83706 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color oppinions wanted




walleye white belly
perch
white blue/cisco
orange/black dots
black
chartruse/black dots
tennessee shad
bumble bee

know its more than five but i got on a roll
Slamr
Posted 10/2/2003 5:48 PM (#83708 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color oppinions wanted





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
I'm with the rest, I would like to see more natural patterns! Goofy colors are great, but I think alot of us fish pretty clear water, and lets be honest, the muskies are targeting perch colored perch, not firetiger! My selections:

-baby pike
-" " musky
-perch
-rock bass
-bluegill
-cisco/shad

see my general drift?
The Handyman
Posted 10/2/2003 5:57 PM (#83710 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color oppinions wanted




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Funny, I never mentioned goofy colors,loud or clear or anything! Just something different then what everyone else has! That was my drift!
Slamr
Posted 10/2/2003 6:49 PM (#83716 - in reply to #83682)
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
LOL Handy! I didnt even read your post, I just like natural colors!
ToddM
Posted 10/2/2003 8:41 PM (#83727 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color oppinions wanted





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Location: oswego, il
Have to mention white, silver or gold tiger, black and white, silver or gold bumble bee.

Treats, are you going to sell your glider at the show too? It's as good as there is dude. Think about that jerkbait too, it jukes pretty good for a large jerkbait.

Edited by ToddM 10/2/2003 8:42 PM
MJB_04
Posted 10/3/2003 9:01 AM (#83772 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color oppinions wanted





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Pink, definately not enough pink baits out there
blk/orange
walleye
cisco
black
Firetiger
GregM
Posted 10/3/2003 10:08 AM (#83788 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted





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Location: Bagley,MN 56621
HERPES!!!, chartruse/orange spot

that ugly bright blue thing with the orange belly you got..that bugger always moves fish.


have you tried choping the arse off that yet and putting a tail on it???
CiscoKid
Posted 10/3/2003 12:39 PM (#83799 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted





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Location: Oconto Falls, WI
1) Holoform Perch w/ white belly
2) Rust Brown body w/ orange belly (walleye/smallmouth bass pattern)
3) Shimmerin' Shad
4) Golden Shiner (Black Top, Gold sides, orange belly)
5) Bluegill - Not enough bluegill patterns out there!
GregM
Posted 10/3/2003 12:56 PM (#83801 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted





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Location: Bagley,MN 56621
oh yeah, forgot about that one..ditto what Cisco said.

and BLUEGILL!!!
Bucktail Butch
Posted 10/3/2003 7:02 PM (#83842 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted




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Location: N.W Lower Michigan
1. Green Frog
2. Perch
3. Walleye
4. Crappie
5. Bluegill
6. Sucker

All of the above in natural colors and, if you have room for one more color, how 'bout Purple on top with plum on lower sides and belly and big bright yellow eyes? I just painted up an old Magnum Rattle Trap like that and it looks awesome!! Sounds bad, I know, but it looks like a fish catcher to me.
Thick Shady
Posted 10/3/2003 8:12 PM (#83847 - in reply to #83842)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted




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Treats, Treats, Treats....

Lettin the cat outta the bag. Just show the pictures.

Todd Cleveland? That must be a rumour we can't afford that OHHH YEAH IT's NOT YOUR $$$$!!

Just kidding.

One thing I'd like to do is make some colors that catch fish and not just fishermen. We'll make those available at the Chicago show.

Start the hype I guess...

Largest 47"....to date...but it just became prime "Walking Bull" time.


And GregM you know me better than that.... Can you say twin tail?

The new and PROFESSIONAL "Musky Treat" is in the works... Treats doesn't get to touch it other than to weight it.

john skarie
Posted 10/4/2003 8:46 AM (#83864 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted




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Location: Detroint Lakes, MN

If your looking for a field tester, well you know where I'm going.

colors;
white with shades of blue and silver.
Black with a red belly.
Sucker
Some mix of red,yellow,black and orange. really ugly.
Brown and yellow with some orange on belly.

jt
Posted 10/8/2003 3:47 PM (#84260 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted




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Location: Rice Lake,WI
Ditto the pink
Jailbird-yellow and black barred
sucker
walleye
Cream-lots of glitter
Ditto the purple thing
White belly some stuff and big blood spots up front underneath
Krappie
Posted 10/8/2003 4:31 PM (#84269 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted





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Location: Appleton, WI
Colors that I always find myself buying and grabbing are the following:

Perch...I'm willing to bet that it's one of the most sought after color schemes for most lure manufactures. I've caught more fish on this color scheme than any other...but than again it might be all that I throw

Shimmerin Shad/Cisco...whatever you want to call it...It's that cool looking color scheme that Bagley,Bucher,Hi-Fin, ERC have in there line-up.

Bluegill...Like has been said. What ever happened to this color pattern? Deadly on all types of waters. Good in stained
sucker/panfish lakes and also awesome on cisco based lakes.

Golden Shiner...I know a few guys that like this pattern and it's for good reason. It's starting to grow on me also... Another versatile clear/stained water bait.

Black and Holoform Silver/Glitter Silver. One of those universal color patterns that always rocks the fish.

There's more, but I think these colors will cover majority of the bases for any water types, and are definite proven producers.

catch ya later,
Krappie
Phish Killer
Posted 10/8/2003 4:40 PM (#84273 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted





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Location: Minneapolis,Minnesota
1-Crappie
2-Walleye
3-Bullhead/black
4-Firetiger
5-Perch

Basic but it covers the bases.
sworrall
Posted 10/28/2003 2:24 PM (#86170 - in reply to #84273)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The light purple, grey, and white you sent me seems to be a great color. The muskies like it, alot!!

Posted 10/28/2003 2:58 PM (#86174 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted


That's a special color. Won't find it anywhere!

Posted 10/28/2003 3:10 PM (#86176 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted


I'll second the bullhead color. How about a carp color? A nice gold and orange would be good. The flowages I fish are loaded with both and neither color is easy to find.
jlong
Posted 10/28/2003 3:38 PM (#86181 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted





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Location: Black Creek, WI
Sounds like a cool lure you got going Mr. Treats and Mr. Cady. From the fish pics Worrall posted it LOOKS good too... especially hanging out the side of a ski's mouth.

As for colors, I could live with three proven fish catchers.

1. Brown back, gold sides (holoform, glitter, or just a good metallic paint), white or orange belly.
2. Black Back, silver sides (holoform, glitter, or just a good metalic paint), white belly.
3. Anything with LOTS of Chartruese on it.

The remaining two color patterns you could use to SELL lures:
4. Perch
5. Something with lots of flo. orange.

jlong

P.S. Cady, I gave you a TripleD before they were released for retail. Any chance you can return the favor (heh heh)???
out2llunge
Posted 10/28/2003 5:28 PM (#86193 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted




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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario
I second, third or whatever on the natural patterns. I make a brown perch/walleye type pattern that just slays them in the clear Kawartha lakes.

I also don't see the need for hyper-realistic patterns, impressionistic patterns that suggest a baitfish also work really well, but I guess it depends on casting baits vs. trolling baits. I don't think the pattern means as much when the bait's moving at 5+ mph
lobi
Posted 10/28/2003 5:53 PM (#86194 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted





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Location: Holly, MI
green perch
no one likes yellow belly perch? I do (especially if deeper water)
a light colored sucker (they are not all black)
baby carp (say soft rayed) go down well
yes yes on Bluegill (or maybe sunfish/rockbass)

happy hooker
Posted 10/28/2003 5:53 PM (#86195 - in reply to #83682)
Subject: RE: New Lure, color opinions wanted




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Ive held the lure,worked it and even threw one into the bottom of the lake via snap failure,,its big and oval and slow,,,how can you not offer it in a bullhead color

Its short and stockey and ugly,,,have Todd paint me one in Brown with black zig zag stripes and painted in smile with big teeth,,,and I'll call it the "Pit Bull"

Edited by happy hooker 10/28/2003 6:11 PM