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| So your invited to fish all costs paid in 2 tournies with 200K first prize each and can pick any partner to fish with. It is a 5 day event. the body of water will be unknown until well after you get to pick your partner. No pre-event fishing or scouting allowed...you show up sight unseen and have at it on day one.
Two types of water and events...a trolling only event and a casting only event.
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Location: oswego, il | Louie Spray, for the win
Selma Hayek in case i don't win, i still win
Kayla Harrison, keep me in line to win but if I lose I still win.
To answer honestly, i would pick someone who consistently wins in the pmtt.
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | An interesting scenario, but still not a "fair" test UNLESS none of the anglers had NEVER fished the tourney waters. Past tournaments have shown that "locals" have the best odds of winning.
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| Larry that's the lottery ticket. The unknown keeps that card out of play until the picks are made. Who gives you the best chance of getting on them quickly and catching them anywhere you have to go.
That said the hot chick play I had not factored in...
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| Yao Ming,,,at 7ft 7 he could reach out and net your fish while it's still following your lure.
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Location: Minnetonka | Chris Riebe. |
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Location: 31 | I like the general concept but simply too much luck variance with only having a one day event for each. Since we are talking hypothetical; I think that 5-6 days on 3 different bodies of water for each event would help define who the better anglers really are because much of muskie fishing involves setting up a pattern and then executing a game plan as flawlessly as possible... muskies take time.
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| Jerry Newman - 10/31/2018 4:22 PM
I like the general concept but simply too much luck variance with only having a one day event for each. Since we are talking hypothetical; I think that 5-6 days on 3 different bodies of water for each event would help define who the better anglers really are because much of muskie fishing involves setting up a pattern and then executing a game plan as flawlessly as possible... muskies take time.
That is why I specified a 5 day event for each. It's just conceptual thing anyways to get people to really dissect who they think is the best in today's game.
For me I'll cheat and pick five for each event in no particular order:
Casting event:
Bill Sandy...I don't know him but figure if it's a shield lake he should be on the team, so splitting talents so to speak.
Herbeck...same reasoning as above...and experienced on non shield lakes as well.
Saric...Having fished with him and filmed a number of times we think alike and he has a huge depth of muskie knowledge from all his time on diff waters and with diff people. Under rated for some reason I think. The man can fish. Plus we always seem to get it done.
John Hoyer, tourney proven and the times we have fished together we always get it done. Plus it helps to have a young guy casting in the tenth hours 
Greg Thomas...don't know Greg hardly at all but a proven winner and widely skilled
Trolling event:
The Laz...based on everything I have heard he is the man to get it done.
Saric, same reasons as above
Spencer, well rounded, tourney proven
Greg Thomas...again does it all
The Fins and Grins brothers from LSC (Quintano's)...I'll take either one
So I cheated a bit but those are my picks....
The alternate list is pretty long, there are so many good sticks out there now.
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| Casting: Kevin VanDam
Trolling: Gary Parsons
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | I think the first instinct, for most, is to pick someone that you think would be really a good casting or trolling partner (known success). Likely not the worst idea but that may depend on your personal experience and maybe more importantly EGO. Not everyone is good at setting their ego aside and working with a partner. From my experience, both personal and observed, the best fishing teams whether competitive or soul fishing have someone that is REALLY good reading fish, location and presentation. The perfect partner is willing to set their ego aside knowing/trusting that team success is dictated by the team leader.
I realize that didn't answer the question so...
Trolling - Jerry Newman
Casting - My Dad |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Joe Blake and Josh Kragthorpe. |
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| Casting: Luke Ronnestrand
Trolling: Luke Ronnestrand
Next question.
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Trolling: SUCKS
Sorry Kirby I’m the best there is, nobody can hang with my stuff. I wake up in the morning and pee excellence.
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Location: oswego, il | Joe Blake - 11/1/2018 10:12 AM
Casting:ME
Trolling: SUCKS
Sorry Kirby I’m the best there is, nobody can hang with my stuff. I wake up in the morning and pee excellence.
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| Al Lindner, casting or trolling |
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| In no particular order...
Jeff Hanson. He'd find a musky in a desert....and get it to eat a bulldog. Underrated troller, too. I'd take him on any body of water. Plus, it's Hanson, that is going to be a fun couple of days in the boat.
Ty Sennet. Just a great guy to share a boat with and he has a very unique fishing style. I'm not altogether certain, but I think that somewhere in his genetics, he shares a gene or two with the musky.
Mike Koepp. He's had an intimate affair with most every musky in Pewaukee Lake. He has that boat set up to have fish just follow him around when they feel photogenic. I have no doubt he would catch fish on any body of water you put him on. And...as a bonus...unreal troller and one of the best casters out there. Doesn't matter to him.
My dad. Just because I don't get to fish enough with him anymore. I'd love to have more time in the boat with him.
Will Ferrell. I want him to emulate different personalities from his movies. I want Frank the Tank on Day One. Ricky Bobby on Day Two. Jackie Moon on Day Three. Chazz Michael Michels on Day Four. And for the win...Ron Burgandy on Day Five. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | vegas492 - 11/1/2018 1:23 PM
In no particular order...
Jeff Hanson. He'd find a musky in a desert....and get it to eat a bulldog. Underrated troller, too. I'd take him on any body of water. Plus, it's Hanson, that is going to be a fun couple of days in the boat.
Ty Sennet. Just a great guy to share a boat with and he has a very unique fishing style. I'm not altogether certain, but I think that somewhere in his genetics, he shares a gene or two with the musky.
Mike Koepp. He's had an intimate affair with most every musky in Pewaukee Lake. He has that boat set up to have fish just follow him around when they feel photogenic. I have no doubt he would catch fish on any body of water you put him on. And...as a bonus...unreal troller and one of the best casters out there. Doesn't matter to him.
My dad. Just because I don't get to fish enough with him anymore. I'd love to have more time in the boat with him.
Will Ferrell. I want him to emulate different personalities from his movies. I want Frank the Tank on Day One. Ricky Bobby on Day Two. Jackie Moon on Day Three. Chazz Michael Michels on Day Four. And for the win...Ron Burgandy on Day Five.
Will Ferrell ? Really ? Vegas, your way to close to Hollywood ..
Chris Rebie and Luke Ronnastand would be my pick. I think Chris can out drink Luke though..... Sorry Luke.
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Location: Vilas | another butt kissing thread..... there is no one way to say who the best is.... just go fishing and do the best you can for that day
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| sukrchukr - 11/1/2018 8:39 PM
another butt kissing thread..... there is no one way to say who the best is.... just go fishing and do the best you can for that day
Well...I don't need to kiss anyone's butt. And yes there is no way to know for sure who is the best because there are so many variables in the fishing world. Just for discussion unless someone wants to come up with about 500K to have the tourneys.
Sorry your so upset and yes pretty much I usually just go fishing |
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Location: oswego, il | MMMMMMMMMMMMUAH! |
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| I spoke plenty about Hanson before, and also know when the Mad-Chain boils in the summer, he crews on LSC and won the big musky event there a couple of years ago. But my trolling team would be Sarik/Thomas, not just for talent trolling which is widely known but smarts. Also, many don’t realize Sarik’s research hours and interviews prior to just showing up. I’ve seen him up close and think there’s nothing he does by accident or for giggles. Not only smart, he’s fit, and not hampered by any preset notion you must follow the mob or use their baits. It’s Turgeon’s rule of the lake being unknown that makes Sarik a sure #1 pick, Thomas is likely got the talent and technological skills to make good chemistry to get along with Sarik’s type A , super-alpha nature, and I know he has Sarik’s respect. I’m not backing away from my Gelb pick on the first thread, and Jim’s not exactly the friendliest guy around, but if I were looking for a partner next year for PMTT (and I am if the two new knees work out) he’s the best there is...and I really pay attention. Sure, I would love to fish with Greg too, and his partner looks even older than me, okay, a lot older! |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i'd pick Steve Cady and David Fenner, Cady would be a no-show and it would be a blast spending time on the water with DD |
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| jonnysled - 11/2/2018 8:18 AM
i'd pick Steve Cady and David Fenner, Cady would be a no-show and it would be a blast spending time on the water with DD
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Location: SE Wisc | We are now one step closer to having a Fantasy Muskie fishing league on Muskiesfirst. |
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| The comment about a $500,000 total purse reminded me about how the pro Bass fishing tournaments are funded. Really big money there and it does not seem that the participants fees could cover much of it. Who are the big sponsors there? Lot of money in bass fishing. |
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| Gregg Thomas is definitely a talented stick, casting or trolling and would likely be a good choice. His partner now is Tony Grant from Kentucky also. From my reading it sounds like Mike Lazarus would be a great choice. I don't know Saric well but when you get to fish the best waters at the best times, with some of the sports top sticks it is possible he could be somewhat overrated, plus Mr. Turgeon appears to be a close buddy from the Musky Hunter shows and writing for the magazine, so he may be more than slightly biased. |
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| true tiger tamer - 11/2/2018 4:02 PM
Gregg Thomas is definitely a talented stick, casting or trolling and would likely be a good choice. His partner now is Tony Grant from Kentucky also. From my reading it sounds like Mike Lazarus would be a great choice. I don't know Saric well but when you get to fish the best waters at the best times, with some of the sports top sticks it is possible he could be somewhat overrated, plus Mr. Turgeon appears to be a close buddy from the Musky Hunter shows and writing for the magazine, so he may be more than slightly biased.
It is my understanding that before buying Musky Hunter, Saric won a number of musky fishing tournaments throughout the mid-west. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | North of 8 - 11/2/2018 1:22 PM
The comment about a $500,000 total purse reminded me about how the pro Bass fishing tournaments are funded. Really big money there and it does not seem that the participants fees could cover much of it. Who are the big sponsors there? Lot of money in bass fishing.
Fishing/Truck/other Manufacturers and non-endemics. The new Major League Fishing venue has taken the cream off the top to that circuit for the next year, and the anglers just voted (yes, they have that much control) to have it all zero entry fee, and it will still pay out more than the competitive circuits. Invite only, too. |
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| sworrall - 11/2/2018 5:02 PM
North of 8 - 11/2/2018 1:22 PM
The comment about a $500,000 total purse reminded me about how the pro Bass fishing tournaments are funded. Really big money there and it does not seem that the participants fees could cover much of it. Who are the big sponsors there? Lot of money in bass fishing.
Fishing/Truck/other Manufacturers and non-endemics. The new Major League Fishing venue has taken the cream off the top to that circuit for the next year, and the anglers just voted (yes, they have that much control ) to have it all zero entry fee, and it will still pay out more than the competitive circuits. Invite only, too.
I have watched a few of the Major League Fishing episodes. I am not a bass fishermen, but the shows are very well done. High production values, great video. It has to cost a lot to put a show like that together. All have identical boats, a judge and video guy on board. Each judge has a tablet that is updated, so I am thinking at least one tech guy supporting it, besides the video crews, the editors, the logistics people, etc. Really amazing there is that kind of money in fishing. |
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| true tiger tamer - 11/2/2018 4:02 PM
Gregg Thomas is definitely a talented stick, casting or trolling and would likely be a good choice. His partner now is Tony Grant from Kentucky also. From my reading it sounds like Mike Lazarus would be a great choice. I don't know Saric well but when you get to fish the best waters at the best times, with some of the sports top sticks it is possible he could be somewhat overrated, plus Mr. Turgeon appears to be a close buddy from the Musky Hunter shows and writing for the magazine, so he may be more than slightly biased.
My bias is from fishing with Jim no more. If we had not filmed I would never have been in the boat with him. For sure filming is fun but a pressure cooker to produce...no muskies...no show.
Major League Fishing has it figured out, the anglers own and run the show and the profits stay with them...plus I like the format.
I'm not sure why this got all turned around. I just thought it would be fun to see who would pick what talent to fish with.
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Location: Twin Cities | I'd put the names Hamernick, Berman, Sennett, Hanson, Ronnestrand into a hat and draw. I'd be happy and confident with any of them. |
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| bturg - 11/2/2018 7:46 PM
true tiger tamer - 11/2/2018 4:02 PM
Gregg Thomas is definitely a talented stick, casting or trolling and would likely be a good choice. His partner now is Tony Grant from Kentucky also. From my reading it sounds like Mike Lazarus would be a great choice. I don't know Saric well but when you get to fish the best waters at the best times, with some of the sports top sticks it is possible he could be somewhat overrated, plus Mr. Turgeon appears to be a close buddy from the Musky Hunter shows and writing for the magazine, so he may be more than slightly biased.
My bias is from fishing with Jim no more. If we had not filmed I would never have been in the boat with him. For sure filming is fun but a pressure cooker to produce...no muskies...no show.
Major League Fishing has it figured out, the anglers own and run the show and the profits stay with them...plus I like the format.
I'm not sure why this got all turned around. I just thought it would be fun to see who would pick what talent to fish with.
I think you had a great idea, fun to think about. From watching Major League Fishing, it is interesting to see how these guys that fish for a living have a go to when the pressure is on. Some like spinners tossed around and under docks, some favor crank baits in open water, others might excel at flipping heavy lures and punching through weed mats. I think it is Ish Monroe that falls back on frogs. If you learned how to fish from just one of them, you would probably tend to fish the same way. By seeing how they all do it a little differently, but with success, you get a more balanced view. Your suggestion makes people think about musky fishing in the same way. |
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| I know Mr. Worral has gotten to be an (extremely) elderly fellow, probably busy with looking over crappie rods suitable for pier fishing, but if he’s watching the fascination his readers seem to have choosing their heroes, maybe he ought to consider giving away “dream trips” with these guys for a good cause. Perhaps funding joint replacements for his other old friends? Just let Turgeon’s thread run a while, crunch the numbers, brush the cobwebs off your wallet, and entertain the folks. C’mon Steve, you can likely find a sponsor to pay for it. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | Major league musky. I like it. Could find out pretty
quick who is the best after a couple seasons, if the
best actually put themselves forward. Now just need
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| Which of the guys stated previously aren't a-holes and will allow cursing, smoking, chewing, and a beer or 2 in the boat without getting their panties in a wad?
Tony Grant is hilarious and has fishing and life stories. Scott Donovan from Kinkaid is also a good stick, and great guy. I'd play it safe and pick one of these guys. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Scott Donavan and Chris Rebie Are really ,really fun guys to fish with.... + THEY know the How, What and Where , part of Muskie hunting.... and of course there is their Good buddy Matt Snyder... All super good sticks/Guys... |
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Another angle,,,best fisherman today