Tiger?
e_hound
Posted 7/15/2018 9:59 PM (#912398)
Subject: Tiger?




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Buddy got this a couple days ago, he's wondering after the fact if it is a tiger. I know about pores and fin profile, but all I saw was this pic. My first notion was no, because body of water has no northerns or natural reproduction. But interested in the opinions and expertise of esox nation.
Is it possible that tiger fingerlings get intermingled at dnr hatcheries or private fish farms?



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Reelwise
Posted 7/15/2018 10:27 PM (#912399 - in reply to #912398)
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This looks like a Tiger Muskie... to me, sir... but, it might not be. Nice fish.

Edited by Reelwise 7/15/2018 10:30 PM
Reelwise
Posted 7/15/2018 10:33 PM (#912400 - in reply to #912398)
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The reason I believe it may be a Tiger Muskie is the shape of the head... and the back portion of the body. The shape of the head and the tail resemble what you usually only see in Tiger Muskies. The width between the bottom and top of the fin is also very tall... along with what can be consider a larger than normal dorsal-fin. Pure Muskies are simply shaped, differently.
Reelwise
Posted 7/15/2018 10:38 PM (#912401 - in reply to #912398)
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Tiger Muskies are a fairly popular aquarium fish... and some people release them into lakes and rivers when they out-grow their tank.

Here is a graphic of the key features I am looking at...


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cdubs
Posted 7/16/2018 5:42 AM (#912414 - in reply to #912398)
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Yes, this is a tiger.
MartinTD
Posted 7/16/2018 7:23 AM (#912417 - in reply to #912398)
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Location: NorthCentral WI
Yes, 100% Tiger. Nice fish!
sworrall
Posted 7/16/2018 8:38 AM (#912422 - in reply to #912398)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Hybrid all the way.
Larry Ramsell
Posted 7/16/2018 11:48 AM (#912431 - in reply to #912398)
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Absolutely a Tiger!
true tiger tamer
Posted 7/16/2018 2:01 PM (#912448 - in reply to #912398)
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I've caught hundreds of tigers, it is definitely a tiger and a very nice one at that. Congrats.
jonnysled
Posted 7/16/2018 2:02 PM (#912449 - in reply to #912448)
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looks like a half barrel and a very nice one at that!!

Congrats ... PBR?
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/16/2018 2:16 PM (#912450 - in reply to #912449)
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jonnysled - 7/16/2018 2:02 PM

looks like a half barrel and a very nice one at that!!

Congrats ... PBR?


I call that the heart attack build. We do a different form of CPR than what is frequently talked about here.

We could probably get him down to a 12 pack....
ToddM
Posted 7/16/2018 2:48 PM (#912454 - in reply to #912450)
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Pointerpride102 - 7/16/2018 2:16 PM

jonnysled - 7/16/2018 2:02 PM

looks like a half barrel and a very nice one at that!!

Congrats ... PBR?


I call that the heart attack build. We do a different form of CPR than what is frequently talked about here.

We could probably get him down to a 12 pack....


I call jealousy, he has a 34" waste!

Congrats to the angler on a nice fish.

Edited by ToddM 7/16/2018 2:50 PM
KenK
Posted 7/16/2018 2:54 PM (#912455 - in reply to #912398)
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Those are much sought after 12 pack abs! Nothing plenty of 12 ounce curls can't do!

Beautiful tiger!
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/16/2018 3:01 PM (#912456 - in reply to #912454)
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ToddM - 7/16/2018 2:48 PM

Pointerpride102 - 7/16/2018 2:16 PM

jonnysled - 7/16/2018 2:02 PM

looks like a half barrel and a very nice one at that!!

Congrats ... PBR?


I call that the heart attack build. We do a different form of CPR than what is frequently talked about here.

We could probably get him down to a 12 pack....


I call jealousy, he has a 34" waste!

Congrats to the angler on a nice fish.


*waist

He's still got nothing on this guy, or the mustard tiger Philadelphia Collins




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jonnysled
Posted 7/16/2018 3:08 PM (#912457 - in reply to #912455)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
^sporting the jazz dot!
ToddM
Posted 7/16/2018 3:34 PM (#912458 - in reply to #912457)
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Alternative spelling supports alternative facts.
e_hound
Posted 7/16/2018 5:03 PM (#912466 - in reply to #912398)
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I appreciate the constructive and informed responses to the initial legitimate inquiry. As for those who felt compelled dilute the dialogue with abusive comments about a person's physique, thanks for reminding me how a few Sweetness bags have steered me away from this site before. Grow the nope up!
14ledo81
Posted 7/16/2018 5:50 PM (#912471 - in reply to #912466)
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e_hound - 7/16/2018 5:03 PM

I appreciate the constructive and informed responses to the initial legitimate inquiry. As for those who felt compelled dilute the dialogue with abusive comments about a person's physique, thanks for reminding me how a few Sweetness bags have steered me away from this site before. Grow the nope up!


Lots of good information still to be had here.

Don't let the comments of a few ruin it for you.
Quest4Esox
Posted 7/16/2018 11:52 PM (#912503 - in reply to #912398)
Subject: RE: Tiger?




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Location: Pacific Northwest
Nice Tiger.

What type of lure and technique was he using? Just curious. Like so many others, I've caught them on anything from high dollar glide baits to skirted bass jigs. I had to ask, though, because every now and then you get a surprise answer. A few years back, Idaho's state record was caught on a little trout spinner. I think that fish was, and may still be, the world record.
KenK
Posted 7/17/2018 9:16 AM (#912523 - in reply to #912398)
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Sorry, we're just making a little fun! I too sport the same physic. Just way too many Leinies!
NPike
Posted 7/17/2018 10:23 AM (#912538 - in reply to #912523)
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Giant tiger, nice.
jonnysled
Posted 7/17/2018 3:19 PM (#912548 - in reply to #912471)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
14ledo81 - 7/16/2018 5:50 PM

e_hound - 7/16/2018 5:03 PM

I appreciate the constructive and informed responses to the initial legitimate inquiry. As for those who felt compelled dilute the dialogue with abusive comments about a person's physique, thanks for reminding me how a few Sweetness bags have steered me away from this site before. Grow the nope up!


Lots of good information still to be had here.

Don't let the comments of a few ruin it for you.


sorry, but was there a fish in that picture? i musta missed it ...
sworrall
Posted 7/17/2018 3:25 PM (#912549 - in reply to #912466)
Subject: Re: Tiger?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
e_hound - 7/16/2018 5:03 PM

I appreciate the constructive and informed responses to the initial legitimate inquiry. As for those who felt compelled dilute the dialogue with abusive comments about a person's physique, thanks for reminding me how a few Sweetness bags have steered me away from this site before. Grow the nope up!


It's a Muskie message board, you expected something different? I see the foul language filter got you. Ease up, no reason to be concerned.
jonnysled
Posted 7/17/2018 3:29 PM (#912550 - in reply to #912549)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
we have a support group in the basement ...
sworrall
Posted 7/17/2018 3:36 PM (#912551 - in reply to #912398)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Not recommended for the folks who might lead with the chin...
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/17/2018 3:38 PM (#912552 - in reply to #912551)
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It'd be a logistical challenge to lead with the chin with that physique.
CincySkeez
Posted 7/17/2018 4:01 PM (#912555 - in reply to #912398)
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yea, all you "sweetness" bags need to lay off, thin skin apparently.

What a great fish though
14ledo81
Posted 7/17/2018 6:48 PM (#912565 - in reply to #912398)
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It's good to see the consistency.
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/17/2018 7:00 PM (#912566 - in reply to #912565)
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Location: The desert
14ledo81 - 7/17/2018 6:48 PM

It's good to see the consistency.


The girth between angler and fish? I agree.
gregk9
Posted 7/17/2018 8:45 PM (#912577 - in reply to #912398)
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Epic fish, epic gut. Takes many years for both to develop!
Straw3930
Posted 7/18/2018 8:08 AM (#912596 - in reply to #912398)
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Nice fish!!
CincySkeez
Posted 7/18/2018 8:41 AM (#912599 - in reply to #912398)
Subject: RE: Tiger?





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Location: Duluth
Guess this is as good a place as any to decide this. Below is the fish that started my addiction 8 years ago, taken form a small river in Baraga County MI. Unfortunately she inhaled the little cleo i was using to catch walleye below a rapid and didn't make it. Since the catch there has been much debate among family members whether she's a hybrid or pure.

My guess is sconnie strain given the river system this little river flows into. Thanks in advance for the identification and promise I wont get mad when you poke fun


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ToddM
Posted 7/18/2018 9:51 AM (#912607 - in reply to #912398)
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The fins are rounded, nice fish! Garage sale raincoat?:-)
Larry Ramsell
Posted 7/18/2018 9:54 AM (#912610 - in reply to #912398)
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
Definitely a tiger.
true tiger tamer
Posted 7/18/2018 10:56 AM (#912620 - in reply to #912398)
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I don't think it is a tiger, looks more like a Wisconsin strain purebred. The fish lacks the over sized head, fins, and tail of a tiger that size. It also appears to lack the spots mixed in with the bars like the tigers I regularly catch. The tail is hard to see but it looks like it is more pointed than a tiger but I'm not claiming to be an expert. I think the best thing would be to put the other tiger picture side by side with this picture for comparison.
CincySkeez
Posted 7/18/2018 1:13 PM (#912633 - in reply to #912398)
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Location: Duluth
My amateur hold obscures the size of the head, it was a big head. leaning more towards tiger now

Rain jacket was pulled out of the emergency stash after i ripped my frog toggs on the dang windshield.
mnmusky
Posted 7/18/2018 5:20 PM (#912654 - in reply to #912398)
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looks like a pure Johnsonville maple breakfast sausage. 3/4 cooked.
Reelwise
Posted 7/18/2018 6:26 PM (#912658 - in reply to #912654)
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CincySkeez, I believe your fish is also a Tiger, based on the shape of the dorsal fin along with the markings. Very hard to tell from the picture, and some pures can resemble this appearance... but there are a few indicators that lean towards Tiger. Nice fish, either way. Thanks for sharing.

Edited by Reelwise 7/18/2018 6:28 PM
CincySkeez
Posted 7/19/2018 1:13 PM (#912741 - in reply to #912398)
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Location: Duluth
Thanks for the feedback guys. Tiger it is
Quest4Esox
Posted 7/21/2018 12:34 PM (#912933 - in reply to #912398)
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Location: Pacific Northwest
Have you been back up there and fished those waters with musky and pike gear? I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd love to hear about it.

Nice catch, by the way!

Edited by Quest4Esox 7/21/2018 12:38 PM
supertrollr
Posted 7/22/2018 10:13 AM (#912986 - in reply to #912398)
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i don't know why,every time i see something that round i would like to see how it look inside,could we find an animal,a car license like the infamous jaws movies or even a baby ? nice fish
CincySkeez
Posted 7/23/2018 8:42 AM (#913049 - in reply to #912933)
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Location: Duluth
Quest4Esox - 7/21/2018 12:34 PM

Have you been back up there and fished those waters with musky and pike gear? I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd love to hear about it.

Nice catch, by the way!


Absolutely, that accidental hook up changed the way I look at river systems. It was the ah ha moment that made me realize I was in the middle of a pretty darn good fishery. Funny thing is everyone knows they are in there, they just don't really target them.
ToddM
Posted 7/24/2018 1:02 PM (#913203 - in reply to #912398)
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Location: oswego, il
Both look like tigers, trust your gut.
Quest4Esox
Posted 7/25/2018 12:15 AM (#913287 - in reply to #913049)
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Location: Pacific Northwest
CincySkeez - 7/23/2018 6:42 AM

Quest4Esox - 7/21/2018 12:34 PM

Have you been back up there and fished those waters with musky and pike gear? I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd love to hear about it.

Nice catch, by the way!


Absolutely, that accidental hook up changed the way I look at river systems. It was the ah ha moment that made me realize I was in the middle of a pretty darn good fishery. Funny thing is everyone knows they are in there, they just don't really target them.


Wow... Capitalizing on one of life's pivotal moments. Love it. Just imagine if things had gone the other way and the fish had cut you off before you ever even got to see it. It could easily have turned into just another tail of the time a guy hooked something big, followed by endless speculation as to what it could have been----foul hooked sturgeon and carp come to mind.