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Location: Oconomowoc, WI | Getting ready for annual trip to eagle lake. Chances are, much of the trip will be spent throwing blades. In the past we’ve thrown lots of 10’s with decent success. Even with the be proper tools, this takes a toll physically. Considering throwing more 9’s this year to make things a little easier.
What are your thoughts on 9s vs 10’s. In what situations is one better or the other? Or doesn’t it really matter? Would love to hear some opinions and/or past experiences.
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | If you like 9s, throw 9s and see what happens, if nothing moves try bigger or smaller. |
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| Throw 13's for 20 minutes at the beginning of every day, then 10's feel like 8's it's all psychological |
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| Lots of big fish get caught every year on 8's and 9's ...fish them with speed they are deadly..... ..really like 8's for burning on top of rock reefs on calm sunny days...
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Location: Contrarian Island | from the guys I know who have gone to eagle the last few years, seems they did better moving fish on burning 8s in. I rarely if ever throw 8s personally and don't feel my #s suffer in the slightest. statistically we have more fish over 50 on 10s in my boat than 9s, and only 1 that I can think of on 8s. but are we throwing them more?  mix it up, a general rule I go by to some degree is 10s in bigger waves, 9s in calmer conditions. and I do throw Revolution bucktails a lot by Kramer Tackle. Try a 9 Revolution on eagle I'm sure the fish would dig it...
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Location: Chisholm, MN | I rarely throw 10's these days. 9's or smaller for me. I don't think you'd suffer any numbers or size by throwing 9's instead of 10s. I don't fish eagle though... |
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| Shumway flashers used to be hot up there. |
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Location: Minnesota. | Kirby Budrow - 6/28/2018 9:01 AM
I rarely throw 10's these days. 9's or smaller for me. I don't think you'd suffer any numbers or size by throwing 9's instead of 10s. I don't fish eagle though...
Same here but for diff. reasons. I'm a skinny, older boy who has had a "bunch" of elbow tedonitis ops so I've taken my dbl. 9's and snipped a blade off so they're single.
Can't say I've had much less luck!!! Also I'm not one to buy into all of todays hype....a simple bucktail still does wonders. YMMV. |
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| Almost all of the bucktails I've tied in the last few years have 9's or 8's on them. I've had just as much success, they only time I go bigger anymore is slow-rolling 13's in the middle of the night |
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Location: Contrarian Island | year in and year out 10s are still the # 1 producer for fish over 48" in my boat. It is an interesting debate. one I grapple with in my head often... if you make the exact same cast to the exact same fish at the exact same moment, does it matter if it's 8s or 10s? sometimes I do think it's as much the speed of the bait as the size... one can say their own #s didn't suffer if they went from 10s to 8s. but could another boat on the same lake, at the same time hose them on 10s while the guy throwing 8s doesn't catch any? sure. and vice versa, but then angler skill and the locations they are casting comes as much into play as the size of the blades.
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Location: Madison, WI | BNelson - 6/29/2018 10:46 AM
year in and year out 10s are still the # 1 producer for fish over 48" in my boat. It is an interesting debate. one I grapple with in my head often... if you make the exact same cast to the exact same fish at the exact same moment, does it matter if it's 8s or 10s? sometimes I do think it's as much the speed of the bait as the size... one can say their own #s didn't suffer if they went from 10s to 8s. but could another boat on the same lake, at the same time hose them on 10s while the guy throwing 8s doesn't catch any? sure. and vice versa, but then angler skill and the locations they are casting comes as much into play as the size of the blades.
you could throw 8's during your yearly LOTW trip and find out for us?  |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | BNelson - 6/29/2018 10:46 AM
year in and year out 10s are still the # 1 producer for fish over 48" in my boat. It is an interesting debate. one I grapple with in my head often... if you make the exact same cast to the exact same fish at the exact same moment, does it matter if it's 8s or 10s? sometimes I do think it's as much the speed of the bait as the size... one can say their own #s didn't suffer if they went from 10s to 8s. but could another boat on the same lake, at the same time hose them on 10s while the guy throwing 8s doesn't catch any? sure. and vice versa, but then angler skill and the locations they are casting comes as much into play as the size of the blades.
I cannot argue with you. Your numbers speak for themselves. The fact is 10's draw much more attention but 9's are pretty big too so are maybe just as good or close. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Imo....potential drop off in big fish from 10s to 8s at times
Very little/no drop off from 10s to 9s/mag 8s/Cowgirl to Jr cowgirl
Specific to Eagle...I never got any big ones (48s and up) in the bag on 8s, but heard enough others were having enough luck in that regard to think they’d work. Certainly moved a lot of fish on them |
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Location: Contrarian Island | it all comes down to how much something is in the water imo.. they hit what we throw, at times you can throw a hot dog at them with trebles on it, they'll hit it... it's about maximizing roi for time on water...do they work yes, no doubt about it, do 10s work, I'd bet there have been more fish over 50" caught on 10s in the last 10 yrs than any other bait, that speaks volumes, but are they thrown more than any other bait ? take all those tens of thousands of hours with 10s in the water and put 8s on the line, do the same # of fish get caught? more or less? absolutely no way to answer that unless Marty Mcfly and his delorean are invented. I asked 5 or 6 guys I know that put a good # of big fish in the boat per year and all totalled we had 4 over 50" on 8s between all of us... |
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Location: MN | BNelson - 6/29/2018 11:21 AM
as those who fish w/ me know, I put them on for about 10 minutes a trip and promptly take them off cursing at how gay they are ;)
Lol. That's funny |
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Location: Wisconsin | Love to throw 9's on LOTW, good some covering water and not having to take Advil at night. |
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| Hi Andy,
I have spent a ton of time on Eagle. I have done very well on Spanky 99's the last few years. I rarely throw 8's- they catch fish up there but seem to get a lot of pike action (Pain in the azz)- More so than 9's and 10's. If I was there in June I would probably throw more 8's. Im usually there in July or Aug. so I throw bigger stuff. IMO I don't think you need to throw the 10's all the time. I had no problems catching big ones on 9's
The Spanky 99 is the best casting bucktail I have ever thrown its great even throwing against strong winds.
Team Rhino Outdoors carries the 4 colors we have done the best on the last bunch of years.
Black Widow- Bunch of fish Boated up to 54" last year
Jester- Lots of fish up to 51"
White Walleye- Lot of fish boated 43"-49" I missed a 50"-51" last year at boat on one also.
Black Out - Multiple fish 45"-50"
Had good days with standard old Black and Nickel and black and flame
Good luck
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com |
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Location: Ashland WI | I realize my input carries a little less weight than Jeff's (just a little though), but I really like the spanky 99s as well. |
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| X3 on the spanky 99's. I sold all my dadsons last year.
Had a good trip to eagle with them last year. No giants but a bunch of mid 40"s.
Will be back up in Aug. Thanks for color recommendations. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | I wouldn't lump 8's in with 9's and 10's. 8's in a category of their own(remember when a single 8 bucktail aka ghostail or bootail was a big bait?). I still do better on 8's on select waters than 9's and 10's. I throw 9's and 10's equally. I like how the 9's cast and get down a bit without sacrificing much vibration. 10's hard to beat in wind, at night, pushing weeds, and those places in my heart where I believe I was the first to show them to the fish... ohh the nostalgia.. |
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| I wonder, is it bait fish size that impacts whether the larger or smaller blades make a difference? Talked to a musky guide in northern WI who had good success in Canada and the big lakes in northern MN on 10s but never had much success in Vilas and Oneida and didn't feel they were that effective around here. He speculated it had to do with bait fish sizes but said he really wasn't sure, just based it on the results he and his clients had using the different sized blades. |
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