Rod question for you King trollers
Luke_Chinewalker
Posted 9/10/2003 6:09 AM (#81078)
Subject: Rod question for you King trollers





Location: Minneapolis, MN
What kind of rod setup do you prefer to use for King trolling? I need to buy a couple rods for this and wonder if there is a good dual purpose rod available that I can use for both King trolling and sucker fishing??

Thanks.
Mikes Extreme
Posted 9/10/2003 8:28 AM (#81090 - in reply to #81078)
Subject: RE: Rod question for you King trollers





Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
I use my muskie trolling set ups for Lake Michigan. A 8ft 6 rod with Diawa LC27 line counters. I would not use them for sucker fishing. I think there might be a set up that would be a good in between for both. It has to be strong enough for a good hook set for sucker fishing but enough bend for the unforgiving hits and runs the kings will give you. Mono for one and super line for the other. You might need a set up for both, thats what I did. I think you deserve some new equipment, have you been a good boy?

It looks like its time to buck up for two of each. ha ha ha

The Kings will be done soon and the sucker fishing is going to be starting very soon. I would get two good classic cat rods for the sucker fishing and then you got a year to pick up some good king rods.
52isntbigenough
Posted 9/10/2003 9:05 AM (#81096 - in reply to #81078)
Subject: RE: Rod question for you King trollers





Posts: 177


Location: Germantown & Land O Lakes WI
I go with the Diawa SG 47 (the 27's dont have the capacity as the 47) LC's for Kings with the Heartlands Diawa Rod ( usually they come as a combo, so you can save some $$), but if you're looking for a King rod and a Sucker rod, you're going to ahve a tough time.

100% of my sucker rigging is done in Vilas Co and I do it until the ice is too thick to break at the launch. I use St. Croix Pro Glass rods. Heavy as possible.

I dont like all graphite rods for sucker fishing...it gets too cold up there for anything other than glass.
crazycanuck
Posted 9/11/2003 9:33 PM (#81297 - in reply to #81078)
Subject: RE: Rod question for you King trollers





Posts: 105


Location: Kawartha Lakes, Ontario
If you want to use your stout muskie gear for chinook trolling you must use a snubber. I tried it without one and only landed 1 out of 13 fish that hit. With a snubber I rarely lose fish. You need some type of shock absorber for those vicious strikes and relentless runs, otherwise you will tear the hooks out of their mouths. Here's a pic of a coho I caught on my muskie gear trolling Lake Ontario last weekend. Good luck.


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Muskmelon
Posted 9/11/2003 11:36 PM (#81309 - in reply to #81078)
Subject: RE: Rod question for you King trollers




Posts: 58


Location: Edina, MN
For downriggers I like a very soft rod like a noodle rod. The bigger bend allows for fewer false releases in a heavy chop and picks up slack better when the fish take. Any 8-1/2' or longer glass rod will do. I like my Eagle Claws. Don't break the bank on trolling rods.

For Dipsys etc. my favorites are saltwater deck rods 5-1/2' to 6'. Heavy action with a softer tip allows me to juice up the speed if I want to. Again go with indestructable glass rods.

My best rigs the last couple years have been wire line rigs. Eagle Claw makes a lighter action glass rod with all roller guides that is very nice.

I run all of my rigs with Penn 320's. Smooth drag, indestructable, hold lots of line, loud clicker, easy to fix and get parts. I simply count passes to repeat a drop back.

Posted 9/12/2003 12:22 AM (#81313 - in reply to #81078)
Subject: RE: Rod question for you King trollers


All these posts have something valid to say. First of leave your muskie gear at home, you need something with some flex. I use big water edition Ugly Sticks, you can't find a more durable rod. 8-footer for riggers and small dipsies and the special 10-foot dipsy rod for bigger dipsy's. I really like this 10 ft rod, you can use a long leader and can trip the dipsy with little effort. Also always use a snubber with the bigger dipsy's. You need to use at least 20 # test with dipsy's I reccomend 25 #. Line-counting reel's are important on dipsy's, but you don't need them on your riggers. Whatever reel you use should hold at least 250 yards of line, I like the new shimano Dikato's but they are expensive the diawa's work well too. GOOD LUCK
Shep
Posted 9/12/2003 8:02 AM (#81332 - in reply to #81313)
Subject: RE: Rod question for you King trollers





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My setup is 4 Gander Guide Series 8 1/2' Downrigger rods with Penn 209's. For dipseys, I run the Gander Guide Series 8' and 10' Dipsey Diver Rods with Diawa Accudepth 47LC's. I paid $29.99 ea. for the rods, $49.99 for the Penn's, and $39.99 for the Diawa's. Rods are all 2 piece and work just fine. Unless you're out there every day, I don't think you need to spend alot of money on rods or reels. The Penn is about as economical as they come, has a great drag system. The Accudepth's have worked well so far, no complaints. Have fun, and let those reels scream!