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| It's often mentioned here to hire a guide for either a new body of water or a particular technique. So thats what this thread is about. Can you mention the names of top guides for various techniques on different bodies of water.
In my case I'm only interested in the top trolling guides. My area would be Minnesota but I also would want to know if trolling on say Whitefish Bay on LOTW would be different then trolling Mille Lacs.
So, who are the top guides for trolling Minnesota and LOTW?
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| 80 views and zero opinions.
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| Lots of us look at all the threads started. Ive never hired a guide so i have no helpful info. A more specific title may get you more feedback. |
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| Maybe the title should be top trolling guides and not "the best" I probably wouldn't have opened it. I was excited to see what the best was |
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Location: MN | Matt Seifert in MN. |
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Location: MN | "Trolling MN" is a pretty big set of possibilities. What time of the year? What lakes(s), or even what types of water? You listed LOTW and Mille Lacs, but those are two pretty different pieces of water and neither is necessarily representative of MN waters in general. Also, a given guide doesn't typically fish the entire state - they usually specialize in a few bodies of water. If you need someone who can give you advice for anywhere/any time, that is probably not the same as the best guide for Mille Lacs in August or LOTW in July. Try to narrow things down a bit and put a title down that will help folks understand what you are asking for. |
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Location: Twin Cities | How about season or month and area of the state? Western, Metro, Big V, Leech/Cass area, Mille Lacs.... lots of info an good input on here just too broad... |
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Location: Minnesota | Matt Seifert is on them on vermilion |
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Location: Forest Lake, Mn. | If you want to learn how to troll I would suggest the book; Spoonpluggin, Your Guide To Lunker Catches by Buck Perry. You can find it online at
https://www.bucksspoonplugs.com/Sploonplugging--your-Guide-to-Lunker...
Trolling is a method of fishing that can be learned, like casting, and used everywhere. Once you understand the basics of trolling you can go anywhere and troll with confidence.
The whole idea is to use your boat to position your lure where you want it. This means controlling the depth and the speed of your lure. It means being able to read the area you're fishing and pick a lure that will run at the depth and speed you need for the area you're fishing. For example, you're not going to troll a topwater lure if you are trying to catch a muskie that's 20 feet deep, nor are you going to troll a Jake in a 5' foot deep weedbed.
You learn how the underwater bottom structure is laid out, where the points and turns are, how deep it is, where the weedline is, then you pick lures that will reach those depths with a given amount of line out. The rest of it is just learning to maneuver the boat so your lure follows the path it needs to to reach the bottom structure, weedline, etc. It takes time, trial and error, and practice. Hiring a guide can help but in the end you'll have to learn to do it for yourself if you want to be a good troller.
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Location: Forest Lake, Mn. | Take Mille Lacs for example.
Vineland Bay is a huge slow tapering weedflat from about 5 feet to 15 feet deep with the weeds growing up to within roughly about 5 feet from the surface.
Then there is Garrison Reef, which is a large rocky underwater reef a mile or so offshore with many different depths, turns, points.
Also there is the north end sand break which is a miles long slow tapering sand flat with cabbage on it that finally dumps into deep water around 12 feet or so, going from memory as it's been a few years since I've been there.
You can troll all three areas and catch big muskies but the manner in which you troll, the lures you use, the amount of line you let out, the speed you go, can be vastly different from each other even though it's the same lake.
So when you ask for a guide to show you how to troll Mille Lacs or L.o.T.W. you're kind of asking for the impossible due to the differences within any lake. You troll each area differently. But once you learn to effectively troll one type structure/area you can go to any lake and find a similar area and already know how to troll it because you've already learned how to do it on another lake.
Trolling is much more than tossing a lure out behind the boat and kicking the motor in gear. It can take more time and skill to be a good troller than a good caster. But you can learn. I did.
Edited by fishpoop 7/30/2017 4:27 AM
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