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| Iv heard good things about they rods and want to get a good bucktail rod, I want to get a 9' rod but my car won't fit it. Tooth tamer is all one piece so I could either get there 8' medium heavy rod or I could get a 2 piece tackle industries medium heavy thats 9', or should I get the XH tackle industries? Anyway id also like to hear suggestions for other rods that have the lure rating I like around 1-4oz and I like the price. |
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Location: North St. Paul, MN | TI, XH 9' or 9'6" telescoping rod is what you want. |
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Location: MN | The TI MH blank is I think their best blank... and one of the best MH blanks out there. But that's just me. |
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| so the telescoping would be better then the 2 piece? I have a bulldog predator rod thats 3-15oz that barely casts ducktails 20yards. so I'm a little hesitant of the XH |
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Location: Ashland WI | I have no experience with 2 piece muskie rods, but I love my TI XH telescopic. I cast baits down to 1.5 Oz. Not it's sweet spot, but certainly doable. |
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| It's only going to be for bucktails and some crankbaits maybe so should I really get the XH? I'm still thinking the MH will benefit me more |
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Location: North St. Paul, MN | I have the xxh and have thrown 6" slammers with it. I regularly use double showgirls and cowgirls. I'd bet you'll like the XH...it'll give you more flexibility with what you can throw. |
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| The DJ will be perfect. TI. 9' or 9'6 |
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| The mh will be to light. |
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| The TI MH is too light for mag blades, love it for 8s, small cranks, and topwater. The XH 2 piece and telescopic throws all sizes of bucktails very well. You do fight the rod with 10s though. I prefer the TI XH for blades over a Big Nasty... Blasphemy! I had a TI 2 piece XH, but switched to a telescopic. I preferred the 2 piece feel for palming for some reason. |
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| Double 8s are going to be the highest I'll go. |
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| I use my 9' TI XH telescopic for everything from 1.5oz to 8 oz. Since you have the Predator rod for 3-15oz already I don't see why a MH wouldn't work for casting smaller bucktails and cranks, but I think you'd be happier with the XH. I throw all my double 8's on my XH or on my shorter jerkbait rod. The XH will work fine for lighter bucktails and cranks and it will be a far more versatile rod than the MH. If you want a rod for just smaller stuff, try a 7'6'' rod in a heavy action, like the st croix mojo musky. You can use it as a jerkbait/topwater/small bucktail/crankbait rod, and it would fit in your car. |
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| XH too Much for a dedicated Bucktail Rod that being said I like the 9ft helps with figure 8 IMO but I like 1 piece Rods just me |
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| I'm not going to be using double tens but cowgirls and cowgirl jr. Im hearing XH for big bucktails are those considered "big"? |
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| MNFisherman - 7/1/2017 12:35 PM
I'm not going to be using double tens but cowgirls and cowgirl jr. Im hearing XH for big bucktails are those considered "big"?
no those are not big bucktails Double tens double 13s be big bucktails you dont need an XH for what your talking a MH or H be plenty |
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| I'm going to go with the XH I think, is my Lexa 400 going to seem huge on this? |
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Location: Hayward, WI | The Ti xh is not nearly as heavy as the xh rating may lead you to believe. I have used mine a lot for 8 oz rubber baits and mag 9 and 10 double bladed bucktails. It works well for them, but I've also theown spinnerbaits, Mepps Musky Marabou bucktails, and topwater and crankbaits on my TI xh and it handles them well too.
A bit slower action than some rods, but that seems to give it a degree of versatility also.
Never had the TI mh but i have a feeling it's a pretty light power rod for small baits.
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Location: Hayward, WI | P.s. I've always used the telescopic versions and like that option. And the Lexa 400 isn't really too big but in my opinion its kind of overkill if just using smaller baits. Same price range a Revo Toro 60s works well and is smaller and lighter. |
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| You think it's overkill for cowgirls and jrs? |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | MNFisherman - 7/1/2017 11:17 PM
You think it's overkill for cowgirls and jrs?
Not sure about TI or TT but my st.croix 8'6 (that got extended to 8'9") that is rated at 3-8 oz lures can easily throw baits down to 3/4 oz. and if I'm going smaller than that I just use my trusty bass rod. I know a lot of people on here aren't a fan of bass rods for musky but I have had zero issues with catching 40" pike on it, can't be much different for musky.
I also planned on getting a mh for bucktail a only (like you were) but after reading up on them and Messing with them in the store I decided that a Heavy is just about perfect. So instead of getting a lighter rod for bucktails I'm just going with the same action and having it extended as much as possible (Thorne told me 9'8") for that extra distance. I figure that should be able to handle small and mid size bucktails fantastic and even up to 12s if needed.
Go with the heavy or XH, you will be surprised on how easy it is to throw lighter lures.
Also, mh Muskie rods should be in the bass section, I met a guy who bass fishes on the California delta and he uses a mh mojo Muskie for punching. |
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| Jake,
I own a 9' TI XH and a 9' TI XXH : Top Notch Rods !!! Spectacular Rods !!!
I wish to use them to fish for tunas . Here in Italy we have tunas (blue fins) up to 300 kg ( most common size 20 to 100+ Kg ).
Regarding 2 piece ,here in EU we have always used 2 piece ( 1 piece and telescopic rod are sold just recently ),then you can use them without problem.
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Location: St. Lawrence River | A 9' telescopic XH Tackle Industries rod is what you want. Yes a XH. They are soft in the tip, good backbone. I easily cast single 8's through double 10's. It is my dedicated bucktail rod. If your gonna bomb cast bucktails you want the 9' or more, to really put the boots to a musky if it eats way out from the boat.. my St Croix rods stay home.
Anyone telling you dont go with the XH, prob doesnt have much time behind these rods. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | MNFisherman - 7/1/2017 1:12 AM
Double 8s are going to be the highest I'll go.
FYI, cowvirls are 10's and Jr's are 9's.. |
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Location: Southwest PA | Just got done throwing showgirls, juniors, cowgirls and some grinders, all on my 9' TI XH telescopic. Laying in the shade under a tree as I type this. Been casting 8hrs straight with it and I have to agree... this is the rod I am happy to have been throwing today. Back that up with the incredible customer service provided by the mfg and it equals 110% confidence in this rod. Get it, you'll be happy! |
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| @JakeStCroixSkis I thought they were mag 8 blades my bad, thanks though I'm definetly getting a TI XH 9' telescopic, thanks everyone! |
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Location: Ashland WI | JakeStCroixSkis - 7/2/2017 2:15 PM
A 9' telescopic XH Tackle Industries rod is what you want. Yes a XH. They are soft in the tip, good backbone. I easily cast single 8's through double 10's. It is my dedicated bucktail rod. If your gonna bomb cast bucktails you want the 9' or more, to really put the boots to a musky if it eats way out from the boat.. my St Croix rods stay home.
Anyone telling you dont go with the XH, prob doesnt have much time behind these rods.
Agreed. The XH is what you want. I love mine. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | MNFisherman - 7/1/2017 11:17 PM
You think it's overkill for cowgirls and jrs?
No, I would not say the reel is overkill for those baits, but for 8's and other small stuff it's just a heavier reel then it needs to be. Plus it's fairly big, physically.
In one aspect, I feel it's overkill for what the 400 Lexa does anyway. An 60 series Abu S brings in 29 inches per crank which isn't terribly fast but is also far from slow, and it can handle up to 10's and bring them in at a pretty good pace. 8's would be easy. The nice thing is the Abu is much smaller and lighter.
For just a bit more money the new Smimano Tranx 400 might be a good option as well.
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Location: Aurora | NathanH - 6/30/2017 9:52 PM
The TI MH blank is I think their best blank... and one of the best MH blanks out there. But that's just me.
I concur and disagree about it being too light.
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Sidejack - 7/3/2017 11:30 AM
NathanH - 6/30/2017 9:52 PM
The TI MH blank is I think their best blank... and one of the best MH blanks out there. But that's just me.
I concur and disagree about it being too light.
For small bucktails, no doubt. |
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Location: North St. Paul, MN | MNFisherman, where are you located? I'd meet up with you at Bald Eagle or WBL to test the TI xxh and a 9' XH toothtamer. |
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Location: West Central WI | Or you can do what I did. Broke my new 8'6" Tooth Tamer about half-way down the spine when I caught it under a cleat. Took it to a local rod builder who couldn't repair, but could turn it into a 2-piece rod by marrying up with a St Croix blank. It will now be 9'4" when complete. That's much better than throwing the whole thing away. I have another 2-piece rod of his that I use and it works well. We'll see what happens when I get it back. |
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Location: Aurora | JakeStCroixSkis - 7/3/2017 3:09 PM
Sidejack - 7/3/2017 11:30 AM
NathanH - 6/30/2017 9:52 PM
The TI MH blank is I think their best blank... and one of the best MH blanks out there. But that's just me.
I concur and disagree about it being too light.
For small bucktails, no doubt.
Well, no two blanks are exactly alike so maybe i got one of the few that can handle 9's away from and next to the boat.
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| 8' MH ToothTamer is very versatile. I have 2. good backbone to drive hooks home, great flexibility to keep them pegged. great for double 8's and Big Game cranks and I'll throw Suicks with it too. Great Rod for the 8' length. If you go 8'6 or longer, then I suggest go Heavy or Extra Heavy.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Keith tells me our Tooth Tamer order shipped in yesterday. Looking forward to fishing the new rods. |
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| The 8' MH Tooth Tamer Rod is my favorite bucktail I have ever used! Used St. Croix for over 30 years and switched over to Tooth Tamer 5 years ago and have never looked back! It is a tough and light weight rod
with plenty of backbone. A great rod at a great price and a solid warranty! |
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| sworrall - 7/5/2017 10:16 AM
Keith tells me our Tooth Tamer order shipped in yesterday. Looking forward to fishing the new rods.
Please let us know your thoughts thinking about grabbing one of these Rods Look great very interested to hear you thoughts...you buy and of the 9ft heavy 2-8oz by chance or 8ft6in in same rating?? |
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