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Location: Chippewa Falls, WI | I've used 9" shallow raiders for years but I've had a lot of problems with them taking on water the past couple seasons. I've never busted a lip off any of them however. What big minnow baits do you prefer that have a lip that can hold up to the abuse of banging rocks? Considering slammer and custom x...broke the lip off a couple custom x baits I bought at the 2015 Mn expo so I'm hesitant to buy more. I haven't fished any big slammer minnow baits so I'm leaning towards picking a few of them up to try. |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Shallow invaders seem to hold good. I don't bang rocks to much, but when I do want to fish like that they hold up nice. |
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Location: Elroy, Wisconsin | I have had the best luck with Grandmas and Big fork deep divers. Sometimes the big girls are in 2 ft. but my time is spent in 4 to 6 ft. when they are shallow.
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| Muskie Train MX series baits can take a lot of abuse. They have a rounded lip and are bouyant. Trolled or casted. |
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| muddymusky - 3/15/2017 7:34 PM
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Location: Minnesota. | Not likely THE answer for you re "grinding" rocks - but when I toss around rock piles that vary from 1ft deep to 5-6ft deep I'll be pitching some SS Shads. Surface type, I know but they get attention! |
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Location: Southwest PA | ffib - 3/15/2017 9:45 PM
muddymusky - 3/15/2017 7:34 PM
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| Have you tried the Bondy Prophet? It's a new solid body floater with through wire and a custom cut thick aluminum lip that we cut on a plasma cutter. Check out our ad for it in Rollie and Helens catalog. |
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| Legend Plow has worked good for me. I've trolled them for up to 6 hours straight bouncing rock bottom w/ very little wear on the lip. |
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| I've done good on the musky trains also. Mx9 and mx7.5 trolled and casted them banging rocks. Caught some nice fish on them and have yet to break a lip. They have pretty good action ripped and twitched. |
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Location: Chippewa Falls, WI | My application is for casting only. I rip my minnow baits when casting so I prefer a square lip rather than rounded most of the time and prefer the larger minnow baits for maximum flash and vibration. I only use this tactic in wind when the fish are on shallower rock reefs. I've had some great days on LOTW doing this. |
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| Kraves and kriscos hold up well, never had one break yet. |
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Location: NE Ohio | 10" ziggies have worked well for me |
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Location: Eagle Lake Vermilion Bay, Ontario | for rippn and bouncing shallow a flat sided bait it's tough to beat old staples jake for 3'-5' and and grama for 5-8' which covers alot of casting rocks on the woods but...sometimes they will end up leaking through the line tie or lip with alot of abuse. l i've had good luck banging slammers casting and trolling..they are a tough bait, dont leak as they are solid resin,got a square lip that ricochets off rocks well and got a great flash/vibs.
also the musky train high rail for very shallow and the low rail for 4-6'. built solid, wood well sealed and coated wont leak
for just plain seriously grinding into and through serious rocks 3-8' a jointed believer or a 7.5 muskie train mx as is for 2-5' or with a weight insert 5/8" behind front hook and 5/8 oz weight for 4-7' are tough to beat.
for a combination twitching/bouncing rocks,coming off the edge into a deeper break and hanging i killed it with the livingston striker last fall. just enough bouyancy to bounce but lacking enough to hang/suspend just long enough.herbie
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Location: Eagle Lake Vermilion Bay, Ontario | for rippn and bouncing shallow a flat sided bait it's tough to beat old staples jake for 3'-5' and and grama for 5-8' which covers alot of casting rocks on the woods but...sometimes they will end up leaking through the line tie or lip with alot of abuse. l i've had good luck banging slammers casting and trolling..they are a tough bait, dont leak as they are solid resin,got a square lip that ricochets off rocks well and got a great flash/vibs.
also the musky train high rail for very shallow and the low rail for 4-6'. built solid, wood well sealed and coated wont leak
for just plain seriously grinding into and through serious rocks 3-8' a jointed believer or a 7.5 muskie train mx as is for 2-5' or with a weight insert 5/8" behind front hook and 5/8 oz weight for 4-7' are tough to beat.
for a combination twitching/bouncing rocks,coming off the edge into a deeper break and hanging i killed it with the livingston striker last fall. just enough bouyancy to bounce but lacking enough to hang/suspend just long enough.
herbie
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Location: Detroit River | The Bondy Prophet won't take on water & it has an aluminum lip that can handle crashing into the rocks.
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| Muskie Train Hi-Rail is a great twitcher. For really pounding into the rocks a Muskie Train MX7.5 and MX9 are great for this. I have pounded them into rocks casting and trolling and never had a lip break. Caught some big fish on them.
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| I am starting to like the Storm giant flatstick for banging rocks. The lip will take a ton of abuse and they are fairly inexpensive compared to some of the other baits out there...so if you hang one up...it doesn't hurt so bad. I can get them down about 5-6' depending on how they are worked. |
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| Yep, I agree with the Giant Flatsticks for banging rocks. |
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| You guys aren't having problems with the flatsticks leaking?? All 3 of the ones I bought took on water.. |
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| Same problem here with the flatsticks, bought 2 and they both leaked first time used. |
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Best minnow bait for grinding rocks?