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Location: Shakopee Minnesota | the past year fishing musky i have been using power pro because they were out of the spiderwire line i wanted. i know that many use 832 and many others. what is the most used braid? |
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Location: Minnesota | Power pro or 832 |
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Location: MN | Do a search this has been covered a lot a poll was taken in 2015. |
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Location: Shakopee Minnesota | NathanH - 2/27/2017 4:55 PM
Do a search this has been covered a lot a poll was taken in 2015.
ok thanks. i wanted something more current though. |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | kamrynhalverson - 2/27/2017 4:58 PM
NathanH - 2/27/2017 4:55 PM
Do a search this has been covered a lot a poll was taken in 2015.
ok thanks. i wanted something more current though.
I think the 2015 poll would be pretty current, there really isn't many "new lines". They don't release new lines like new lures. Whatever was most popular in 2015 is probably still popular now. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | No such thing as "best". If there was such a thing, everyone would be using it and all the other companies would go out of business. Some retain water that would make them undesirable in cold water cases. Some backlash easier, some are easier in getting out backlashes. Some have different colors and those might not be to your liking.
Unless you are going to give a detailed account on your style and method of fishing no one can answer that question honestly. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Below is a really good article from In Fishermen about fishing line for Muskie.
http://www.in-fisherman.com/gear-accessories/line/best-line-for-mus... |
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| If you run more than one rod, put a different type on one reel each summer to put its through its paces. See what you prefer. |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | I'm going to rephrase your question a little because I have some similar questions that can't be answered by a poll. You can't really ask for the "best" anything because you will get a different answer from each person who responds. So here goes my question, hopefully it will help you too. I'm going to include power pro, 832, cortland masterbarid, and tuf-line. I picked these because they seem to be some of the more popular lines. *not necessarily best*
Questions:
1. What are some differences in these lines?
2. What line is the most accepting of different knots?
3. What line is the best for casting distance? And why?
4. What lines seem to be most abrasion resistant?
5. What lines hold less water?
6. What lines sit better on the reel and don't cut into the spool?
Go ahead and answer these questions from your experience. Thanks! |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Unless your really sure of what your getting there's a lot of counterfeit Power Pro out there must be the price of success.
I've been using Tuff line without issue |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | It's just line man..
PP, Sufix 832, Tuff Line XP, Hi Seas Grand Slam to name a few.. to the OP, I wouldn't go stripping off your PP just to switch to what someone might tell you is a "better" line. Just fish brotha. Save your money and buy a guide in your area. You will learn a ton. |
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Location: Shakopee Minnesota | JakeStCroixSkis - 2/27/2017 9:19 PM
It's just line man..
PP, Sufix 832, Tuff Line XP, Hi Seas Grand Slam to name a few.. to the OP, I wouldn't go stripping off your PP just to switch to what someone might tell you is a "better" line. Just fish brotha. Save your money and buy a guide in your area. You will learn a ton.
i just want to be ready when i get that first one. i have some friends to bring me fishing who have been fishing for years. i dont really need a guide though i would like to go with one once. |
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| I agree! I had a lot of bad experiences with PowerPro. I'ts very prone to backlashes and I've had it just snap off on some of those backlashes. I saw enough of my prized muskie lures go sailing off into the distance never to be seen again, to abandon it for good. I started using Master Braid last year and I really like it. It does retain a lot of water, but I don't fish past the first week of October so I don't much care. |
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Location: NE Ohio | masterbraid................enough said. |
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Location: Vilas County, WI | Power Pro takes on too much water, more prone to backlashes, and frankly I just don't like it.
I'm a fan of Spiderwire Stealth and Suffix 832. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I often wonder how many brands come out of one factory. I worked for a cheese factory that did a big house volume as well as a huge private label business. People would say I like xxx but not 000 or ### . I couldn't be bothered telling them that the only difference was the outer wrap. i do know that a lot of battery brands come out of one factory but people will argue their brand loyalty |
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| Masterbraid is the softest, most memory free braid Ive used. Its also really smooth and it doesn't get its smoothness because of a wax or coating that wears off. That's how PP Slick8 is smooth, it doesn't last. I think 832 is coated too but Im not sure. For some reason you have to pull really hard to pull a double palomar knot tight with MB though, but how often are you tying? Not often for me so I just deal with pulling really hard. It does hold a lot of water but I find it excellent at not bleeding color. Holding water never bothered me that much even in December so Cortland is my favorite. It seems to last really well too. Ive used PP regular (rough but tough, casts loud and more backlash prone), PP Slick 8 (Smooth at first but doesn't wear well and bleeds color, doesn't hold much water), Suffix 832 (Nice and smooth, lasted better than Slick 8 but not perfect) and Master Braid (My favorite). I havnt tried the grand slam or the spider wire. This is how things seemed to me but its not like Ive casted 5 matching setups with different line on them. I pretty much experimented year by year.
One of my buddies got some 100# braid off of a huge spool while he was working for a famous cage diving captain in Australia and we never figured out what it was but it was the nicest, silkiest stuff ever. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Under-appreciated: high seas grand slam
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004UUD56M/ref=twister_B004UUGBT0 |
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| I've used cortland master braid and power pro of various thicknesses. I don't think Cortland is that much better to make it worth switching your reels over. I've lost lures on both due to old line and backlashes. Try switching it up when your current line is shot or you get a new reel IMO. |
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Location: Alex or Alek? | I started using spiderwire, that tossed one of my baits so i witched to powerpro. Thinking of putting on cortland next time i need to, but i did buy a ton of powerpro on black friday since it was on sale so that might be awhile. Like others have said your going to get a thousand answers and most lines are going to be fine as long as you get the right #.
If this thread goes on long enough you will find someone talking bad about every type of line im sure. |
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I agree here couldnt believe how nice this line really is...Then when I found out its produced right here in my home state and is a smaller company I thought why not give a try and was happy I did great line and good pricing cant go wrong with the Grand slam... |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | MOJOcandy101 - 2/28/2017 9:11 AM
If this thread goes on long enough you will find someone talking bad about every type of line im sure.
Yep, that's expected, but at least everyone can get an idea of what people like and dislike about certain braids. For example, some people say masterbraid is as dry as mono while others compare it to a sponge. |
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Location: Scandia MN | pklingen - 2/28/2017 5:01 AM
masterbraid................enough said.
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| Hi-seas Grandslam braid is the best I have used. Been using it for 7 years.
It is strong as hell. Does not backlash easy. casts great and is easiest line that ive found to dig out backlash's and birdnest's fast from clients.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com |
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Location: midwest | Sunline FX2 braid is my favorite I have tried....I've tried LOTS of different braids too! |
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Location: central Wisconsin | No issues with PP. I've used it since it first came out. |
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| I have PP on some and Suffix on others. Not a big difference in my mind. The only time I lost a lure because of PP snapping, it was my stupidity. I had been given a new lure and wanted to check its action before going out, so grabbed a rod from the boat and went to make a bomb cast from my dock. I did not change any thing on the reel, despite having used it last for a light bait and the new one was heavy. As a result of my stupidity, had a major backlash and the last I saw of that new lure was it cutting a lovely arc against the blue sky. With the suddenness of that stop, and a solid steel leader, anything short of parachute cord would have snapped. |
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| Sufix 832 or TUF XP.
Didn't like Power Pro |
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| Masterbraid or PP for me but I run 100 pound on everything except my trolling rods. |
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| I'm a big fan of the Hi seas grand slam braid also 80 and 100# |
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| I haven't used PowerPro 80 in at least 6 years. Too many failures. Switched to TuffLine XP 80. No issues. 832 is too dry for my liking. I don't like burning my thumb on the first cast of each spot! |
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Location: Waukee, IA | I second the sunline fx. Cool blue and brown color, casts very well, no backlashing, knots well, no issues for me. Think I bought it at tackle warehouse..... |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | whynot - 3/1/2017 7:21 PM
I haven't used PowerPro 80 in at least 6 years. Too many failures. Switched to TuffLine XP 80. No issues. 832 is too dry for my liking. I don't like burning my thumb on the first cast of each spot!
Yes, yes, yes, I hate that, I burn my thumb and then it's painfully to fish the rest of the day. |
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Location: MN | I've lost several lures and my buddy has lost a couple fish on PP. That was enough for me to abandon it for good.
I run Cortland and have been very satisfied and see no reason to switch. I really like how easy backlashes come out. I've heard folks complain it holds too much water but it has never bothered me, even in extreme cold temps.
I've also tried 832 and have no real complaints other than the fact they don't make it in 100lb. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | mainly use 80 lb cortland bronzeback, some reels still have some tuf line, or tuf line xp
sucker reels have xp in 130 or 150 lb... as others have said, I personally don't like the dry lines, line that carries some water backlashes less and casts farther imo... to the point I often dip my rod tip in the water for a few seconds when it's hot and sunny
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| Sufix 832 |
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn | Jeff78 - 2/28/2017 12:34 PM
No issues with PP. I've used it since it first came out. same here |
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| Musky_Mo16 - 2/27/2017 8:26 PM
I'm going to rephrase your question a little because I have some similar questions that can't be answered by a poll. You can't really ask for the "best" anything because you will get a different answer from each person who responds. So here goes my question, hopefully it will help you too. I'm going to include power pro, 832, cortland masterbarid, and tuf-line. I picked these because they seem to be some of the more popular lines. *not necessarily best*
Questions:
1. What are some differences in these lines?
2. What line is the most accepting of different knots?
3. What line is the best for casting distance? And why?
4. What lines seem to be most abrasion resistant?
5. What lines hold less water?
6. What lines sit better on the reel and don't cut into the spool?
Go ahead and answer these questions from your experience. Thanks!
2) Cortland Masterbraid or spectron.
3) I have yet to see any line out cast Masterbraid.
4) Again Masterbraid is as good as any.
5) Not sure.
6) Masterbraid by far.
Also, Masterbraid is more shock resistant than any other line I have tried.
I use Masterbraid in 50, 65, and 80 depending on lure size and rod weight.
On a spinning reel for bass or walleye, I like 832 and Power Pro in 20 Lb and less. |
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| tbaatz - 2/28/2017 9:58 AM
pklingen - 2/28/2017 5:01 AM
masterbraid................enough said.
What he said - - - -
You're looking at $50+ to spool one reel!! Insane
I think same LB test of Power Pro would be about half as much... |
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Location: Eagle Lake Vermilion Bay, Ontario | i've always had good luck with fireline braid,spiderwire in the past and really most lines these days will do the job just fine more a personal preference however the last 2 seasons i been using seagur threadlock and really,really like it. not the easiest to find at smaller shores/shops yet but it is available at larger outlets and online and an excellent line as are all seagur products.
it is thin line comparatively to most and a 16 weave braid where most are 4 or 8 strand.
it does not bleed color,have the hard finish that makes backlashes difficult to pick out, bury at spool edges, or noisy, yet is very abrasion resistant ( i have purposely not retied checking it multiple times daily though and have gone a week and more without seeing any noticable reasons to do so. not recomending that as a mode of operandi but very impressed with and an example of the durability) yet soft with little water retention and has the hollow core if you are into knotlesss smooth leader to braid connections...and if you can find the needles. to this point i just been tying improved albrights if not using standard swivel leaders.
steve herbeck
AML PROP EMERITUS,GUEST FISHING INSTRUCTION COORDINATOR,MASTER GUIDE |
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| 100 pound Master braid up into late october, and fresh Power pro 100 pound when things get icy. Doesn't retain as much water but is much noisier. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | whynot - 3/1/2017 8:21 PM
I haven't used PowerPro 80 in at least 6 years. Too many failures. Switched to TuffLine XP 80. No issues. 832 is too dry for my liking. I don't like burning my thumb on the first cast of each spot!
You say too many failures as though line failure was a regular thing for you, with PP? What are you throwing, cinder blocks? Lol
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've never had a line fail once. I can't wrap my head around any 80lb braid breaking "often." Mostly on backlashes or what? Not retying your knot regularly? |
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Location: Shakopee Minnesota | i have 80lb pp on my reel. its strong stuff. ive pulled logs and rocks up with it. |
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| I have been using 65 and 80 # power pro since it came out. I have never had any problems with it braking or anyone in my boat. I have one of my reels spooled with 80# Maxcuatro. This seems even better (smaller dia.). I may go with Maxcuatro on all my reels. |
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Location: Southwest PA | I tend to use 80-100# powerpro but am trying 832 for this year. After much success pulling out stumps in tail race currents while fishing for flatheads with the 832, I figured it'd be worth a shot. The only line I will not use again is spiderwire stealth. With 80# test and a Palomar knot to the leader, I had multiple break offs on hang ups when it was the first fishing excursion into the spiderwire. After the first time I started checking the line after every cast and within 4 casts the same thing happened again. I was out $40-50 from the lost lures since I was from shore. Maybe it was just bad line? Still not going to chance it. There's my .02... Good luck this year everybody! |
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Location: MN | I have been using Cabelas rip cord for a couple years. |
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Location: Illinois | I had pp break on me a couple times a few years ago. Had some spiderwire stealth on a reel(65#) that snapped a lure off on a cast. Ended up finding a defect in the line every 10feet or so. I could break the line with my hands! I switched to 832 for all my braids(80#on down to 10#for walleye). Haven't had any problems(about 5 years estimate)and don't plan on a switch. |
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Location: Southwest PA | Fish4muskie - 3/21/2017 10:40 PM
I had pp break on me a couple times a few years ago. Had some spiderwire stealth on a reel(65#) that snapped a lure off on a cast. Ended up finding a defect in the line every 10feet or so. I could break the line with my hands! I switched to 832 for all my braids(80#on down to 10#for walleye). Haven't had any problems(about 5 years estimate)and don't plan on a switch.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that had that problem with spiderweb. This sounds like the exact same thing which happened to myself. |
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| "5. What lines hold less water? "
I've been using Suffix over PP for 4 years now muskie fishing and overall love it. My switch had more to do with wind knot experiences surf fishing for stripers than issues muskie fishing. However, I think the suffix soaks up a lot of water which is an issue in the winter in PA. We are fortunate enough to be able to fish for and catch muskies all winter, weather permitting. However, I may start using power pro in the winter on one reel when air temps are in that 32-34 degree range. |
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What is the best braid?