Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??
Northern Falls
Posted 2/14/2017 7:34 PM (#849791)
Subject: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




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Which Shimano Tranx are you puchasing this year and for what purpose???

I have almost pulled the trigger on the Tranx 500 several times but size and $$$ kept me from doing so. However I think I'll pick up a low gear 400 size this year for reeling in big blades. I'm also thinking of adding another one for "all purpose". Maybe I would go with the high gear on that....

musky513
Posted 2/14/2017 8:12 PM (#849793 - in reply to #849791)
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If you want to throw big blades get a 500 pg. The size of the 400 make me think it will be more of an all purpose reel for topwater, small blades, twitch/crank baits, etc.
muskyhunter47
Posted 2/15/2017 5:17 AM (#849808 - in reply to #849791)
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Location: Minnesota
I'll be picking up a 400 pg for small blades .I have the Tranx 500 in the Pg and HG best big blades reel on the market. Yes the 500 is a big reel but once you get use to it the size don't matter and I'm a small guy.
Northern Falls
Posted 2/15/2017 1:33 PM (#849876 - in reply to #849793)
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musky513 - 2/14/2017 8:12 PM

If you want to throw big blades get a 500 pg. The size of the 400 make me think it will be more of an all purpose reel for topwater, small blades, twitch/crank baits, etc.



People seem to really like the lexa 400 for big blades....why assume the 400 Tranx wouldn't be able to handle the job? Plus it would be a lot lighter on the wallet...
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 2/15/2017 1:36 PM (#849879 - in reply to #849876)
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Location: St. Lawrence River
Northern Falls - 2/15/2017 2:33 PM

musky513 - 2/14/2017 8:12 PM

If you want to throw big blades get a 500 pg. The size of the 400 make me think it will be more of an all purpose reel for topwater, small blades, twitch/crank baits, etc.



People seem to really like the lexa 400 for big blades....why assume the 400 Tranx wouldn't be able to handle the job? Plus it would be a lot lighter on the wallet...


The Lexa 400 is huge and the Tranx 400 is not. Do not be fooled by 2 different brands advertising different reels as "400" series. They are not the same. I'm sure the Tranx 400 lower gear would do blades fine.
BNelson
Posted 2/15/2017 1:40 PM (#849880 - in reply to #849879)
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Location: Contrarian Island
The 500 HG pulls 10s a lot faster than the PG... PG to me is sort of a waste of money for blades imo as I'd rather have 1 HG and reel is faster or slower to attain the speed desired..
vegas492
Posted 2/15/2017 4:41 PM (#849910 - in reply to #849791)
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I'm getting the 500 series PG...primarily for big blades. It comes highly recommended by two guides that I fish with. When asked about the PG versus the HG, both said the same thing. .....I can reel plenty fast enough with the PG.
If I threw more dogs, I'd look at the HG, but I don't so I'll do the PG.

The Shimano reps seemed to think that the 400 series is a great all around reel and will do 8's and 9's perfectly. 10's will be okay, but that is where the 500 series shines.
BNelson
Posted 2/15/2017 5:03 PM (#849914 - in reply to #849910)
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Location: Contrarian Island
what is 'plenty fast'?..at times the faster the better, you simply can't make a pg reel them in as fast as an HG..I've stood next to guys with PGs and we both cast, my bucktail is to the boat 30% faster than theirs.... upgraded longer handle on the HG it is even better...the PG simply doesn't bring them in as fast as the HG...I don't care what 2 guides said what, I know a thing or 2 about big fish and one thing to remember...speed kills...it's like trolling 2.5 mph...well sometimes they want it 3.5 mph
reminds of the time I was in the boat with a "big name" green bay guide and he thought he was burning his 10s in with his Revo Winch...no lie there.
TTS
Posted 2/15/2017 5:50 PM (#849915 - in reply to #849791)
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Location: Wisconsin
I'd say the 400 is closer in size to most other companies 300 or 50 size reels. With the 300 almost like a larger size bass reel. Just talking physical size here. I'm going to be purchasing the high speed 400 for plastics this year. Really like how both reels felt at last weeks show. The 400 is way smaller than either the 500 or Lexa 400 for that matter. Tom
Headlock
Posted 2/15/2017 6:29 PM (#849918 - in reply to #849880)
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I have a couple of both Tranx 500's. The HG is without a doubt a game changer for burning blades. If you really push yourself with that reel you will catch more fish. I don't like doing it so I put my buddy in the front of my boat and he rolls. The PG is a good reel for night fishing blades where you want to slow down but you can get away with many reels for that. I can't wait until people start dumping the big Tranx for cheap! Or if your Nellie you have 10 of everything One thing I will add is put one of those pistol grips on your bucktail burning rod and you will buy me drinks forever after you use it a summer. Best new/newer product I found a couple years ago and I can't believe everyone does not have them.
tolle141
Posted 2/15/2017 6:40 PM (#849919 - in reply to #849791)
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Had a 500PG. Don't see why the 400 standard wouldn't work just fine for big blades. One of the main reasons I got rid of the 500PG was because it was so powerful that I'd lose "touch" with 10's. Couldn't tell if they were fouled or not. 9's were hopeless. Went to a beast and I can feel the blades again.

I'm getting a 400std for sure, and possibly a 500HG or 400HG as well for rubber.
vegas492
Posted 2/16/2017 8:12 AM (#849966 - in reply to #849914)
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BNelson - 2/15/2017 5:03 PM

what is 'plenty fast'?..at times the faster the better, you simply can't make a pg reel them in as fast as an HG..I've stood next to guys with PGs and we both cast, my bucktail is to the boat 30% faster than theirs.... upgraded longer handle on the HG it is even better...the PG simply doesn't bring them in as fast as the HG...I don't care what 2 guides said what, I know a thing or 2 about big fish and one thing to remember...speed kills...it's like trolling 2.5 mph...well sometimes they want it 3.5 mph
reminds of the time I was in the boat with a "big name" green bay guide and he thought he was burning his 10s in with his Revo Winch...no lie there.


Plenty fast is fast enough to satisfy the fisherman who is triggering strikes for himself and his clients.
Their opinions differ from yours. No biggee. But I've seen this response from you before, and it is odd.
I've done my research, I'm going PG all the way. I know that isn't popular with you, but it isn't your money.
BNelson
Posted 2/16/2017 8:29 AM (#849967 - in reply to #849966)
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Location: Contrarian Island
why is it odd? think outside the box...ask anyone that trolls... how is casting any different? a guy trolling his lure at 2.5 some days might get 2 hits while the guy troling his lure at 3.5 gets 4...would you buy a kicker motor that could only go 2.5mph? or one that can go faster? duh, it's not that hard to comprehend to me...faster can mean more hits...take it or leave it,,,,I personally want the reel that brings them in as fast as possible as some days that will mean more fish in the boat.... just cuz someone is a 'guide' doesn't mean they are always right. yes it's not my money buy whatever you want, just telling you the HG can reel them in faster which will mean more hits when speed is the trigger...

the big name 'guide' on green bay thought he was reeling his 10s in fast with his winch til he stood next to me with my HG and you could see the lightbulb (dim at that) go off in his head when he saw the speed mine were coming in....

just giving you something to think about... pg is a waste if you want real speed.
Mdamp104
Posted 2/16/2017 8:47 AM (#849971 - in reply to #849791)
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Location: Shawano, Wi
Curious as to how the Revo Toro Rocket will compare to the Tranx HG on pulling in those blades.
Brad P
Posted 2/16/2017 8:47 AM (#849972 - in reply to #849967)
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I own both the PG and the HG. I cannot think of a time where I would want the PG over the HG for size 10 or smaller blades. The HG does everything the PG does for that size of bait, plus it adds speed to your arsenal. Why wouldn't you want that?

Slow Rolling after dark is one blade presentation where I wouldn't choose the HG. However, I prefer a 400D for that role as even the PG is bit too fast for my liking when fishing that presentation.

For me the PG is a niche reel. It's most consistent use in my boat is when I'm tossing 13s a lot. Another good place for it is twitching big baits like 14" jakes. The torque of the reel can give action to the bait with ease, saving your body from the abuse. Beyond that, there just are not too many places where the HG isn't as good or better.
BNelson
Posted 2/16/2017 8:50 AM (#849973 - in reply to #849972)
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Location: Contrarian Island
I have a rocket... HG is still faster and easier. but you might want to ask those 2 'guides' that Vegas talked to first, cuz what do I know!
Reilley
Posted 2/16/2017 8:57 AM (#849974 - in reply to #849791)
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I have one 500PG and two 500HG's in the boat, the PG only get used on #13's at night. Other than that it's a good spare, I would get some time on the water and use both before you make a decision. If you make it to central Minnesota, I will take you out so you can try both, that way you can make the decision for yourself.
Mdamp104
Posted 2/16/2017 8:59 AM (#849975 - in reply to #849791)
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I have a Revo toro rocket the only reason I went with that over the HG was the price I was able to pick one up for a little bit more than 200. I also have a PG it may not be as fast as a HG but its so effortless to pull in blades that a 12 hour day you don't feel any fatigue from casting and cranking in those blades with the longer power handle. If I do want to burn 10's ill just take a abuse from the Rocket. But for $300 less lol.
muskyhunter47
Posted 2/16/2017 9:02 AM (#849976 - in reply to #849973)
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Location: Minnesota
I'm in the other side I like my PG for blades over my HG just easier for me might not work for you but it works for me and that is all that matters. I look at it like this going up a hill on a bike I'm going to use a lower gear easer for me.if you have legs that can go up a hill in high gear great I'm not going to tell you it's easer in low gear
BNelson
Posted 2/16/2017 9:04 AM (#849977 - in reply to #849976)
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Location: Contrarian Island
100% agree, use what is easiest but it's not an opinion that that HG will bring them in faster, it's fact.. that's all I'm saying... pg is 'easier' because they simply are not coming in as fast..that can not be debated.. use whatever you want, but I am 100% sure at times faster is better....
Musky Brian
Posted 2/16/2017 9:08 AM (#849978 - in reply to #849977)
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My PG is going on the market this year, so I can get an HG. Specifically for big blades. A small core , whose opinions I value, maintain the added speed has put more fish in their boat
Mdamp104
Posted 2/16/2017 9:13 AM (#849980 - in reply to #849791)
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Location: Shawano, Wi
You can close to the same speed of the HG with other reels that cost less. But there is no other reel on the market that has the power like the PG does.
vegas492
Posted 2/16/2017 9:20 AM (#849983 - in reply to #849973)
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BNelson - 2/16/2017 8:50 AM

I have a rocket... HG is still faster and easier. but you might want to ask those 2 'guides' that Vegas talked to first, cuz what do I know! ;)


Those "guides" put more fish and bigger fish in the boat than you can imagine. And they fish for a living doing what you do as a fun past time.

Don't be so quick to judge a guide. You can disagree, but there is a fine line between disagreeing and looking like an arrogant fool.

BNelson
Posted 2/16/2017 9:35 AM (#849984 - in reply to #849983)
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Location: Contrarian Island

So does the guide on Green Bay that thought he was reeling his 10s in fast with his winch... what does that tell ya??
My results for the hours I put in are pretty solid...guides are on the water about 3 x more hrs than I am...so they should catch more right?
what guides were they?

so answer my question, are you gonna put a kicker on your boat that can only push your boat at 2.5 mph???
Thuawk
Posted 2/16/2017 9:43 AM (#849985 - in reply to #849791)
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Buy a Hg put an ljv handle on and you own one amazing reel!!!
vegas492
Posted 2/16/2017 10:08 AM (#849987 - in reply to #849984)
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BNelson - 2/16/2017 9:35 AM


So does the guide on Green Bay that thought he was reeling his 10s in fast with his winch... what does that tell ya??
My results for the hours I put in are pretty solid...guides are on the water about 3 x more hrs than I am...so they should catch more right?
what guides were they?

so answer my question, are you gonna put a kicker on your boat that can only push your boat at 2.5 mph???

It is funny to me that you think it was Green Bay guides....

My kicker goes a lot faster than that. And the point the guides were making was simple....you can reel the PG plenty fast to boil a bait out of the water, which means in your analogy, their kicker is going much faster than 2.5 mph.

About your only point that makes sense is that speed gets fish to bite. You are right. I'll even give you this point...you can achieve high end speed quicker and easier with the HG than you can the PG. But that doesn't mean that you cannot get the PG to move baits fast enough to trigger strikes as well.

And yes, the guides that I fish with are professionals and put a lot more fish in the boat than you. I know their numbers and somehow you spoke to someone about your numbers through December...and they were impressive, but they weren't what those guides were hitting.
figure 8
Posted 2/16/2017 10:19 AM (#849990 - in reply to #849987)
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Don't try and argue with brad he is the best and knows everything. Just ask him.
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 2/16/2017 10:21 AM (#849992 - in reply to #849975)
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Mdamp104 - 2/16/2017 9:59 AM

I have a Revo toro rocket the only reason I went with that over the HG was the price I was able to pick one up for a little bit more than 200. I also have a PG it may not be as fast as a HG but its so effortless to pull in blades that a 12 hour day you don't feel any fatigue from casting and cranking in those blades with the longer power handle. If I do want to burn 10's ill just take a abuse from the Rocket. But for $300 less lol.


You will not enjoy speed fishing double 10's with a rocket. Your reel will most likely not enjoy it, either.
BNelson
Posted 2/16/2017 10:56 AM (#850000 - in reply to #849791)
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Location: Contrarian Island
well good for them, they are on the water about every day, they should catch a lot more per season. duh! ..and I'm not argueing with anyone (figure 8) if you look thru this thread there are many others that agree w me as well... it's pretty funny to me when guys come on here and try to use other ppls opinions as their own and with lack of actual results to back up those opinions. Me, I come on here with facts and the results that back up what I say...take it or leave it...as usual, the many m1st experts that catch 1 or 2 fish over 45" a year seem to know more than the rest of us who actually catch big fish regularly...comical.
Vegas looks to me you have 3 over 45 since 2010..? well last year in my boat I had 10 x that number..but don't listen to me, listen to your guide buddies, they clearly know more.
.. fact is, an HG can reel them faster... that's not an opinion.

If I ever wondered why so many of the guys that catch a lot of big fish don't or stopped posting on this site, this thread is a perfect answer....
14ledo81
Posted 2/16/2017 11:27 AM (#850002 - in reply to #849791)
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Location: Ashland WI
Don't worry about it Brad.

I appreciate hearing what you have to say.
Cloud7
Posted 2/16/2017 11:33 AM (#850003 - in reply to #849791)
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Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Don't get sucked in to the echo chamber, don't get sucked in to the echo chamber, don't get sucked in to theaaaaaagh..... alright. Didn't read half of the other posts but here we go.

Yes the Tranx 500HG can reel blades in faster than the PG, 13 inches per crank faster, assuming you reel both reels and the same speed/cadence. I myself don't enjoy reeling 10's in with my HG because of the extra resistance (because you're doing more work) which over time is taxing, so I actually prefer just reeling big blades in with my PG and just reeling a little faster.

If you're fishing with a Tranx 500PG or HG you are definitely not shooting yourself in the foot by any means, the even at the PG level 30 inches per crank is faster than most "high speed reels" from 3-5 years ago.

I use my 500HG for Big Rubber and jerk baits.
I use my 500PG for pretty much everything else.
I can use both the PG and HG interchangeably, but over time my comfort level with be compromised in certain applications on each reel.
I'll probably pick up the 400AHG for a dedicated Jerk/Glide rod as well as back-up/girlfriend duty for fall rubber.
I'll probably pick up the 400A for back-up/girlfriend duty as an all purpose lighter tackle/topwater reel.

But at the end of the day it comes down to feel for me. Everything is a tool and making that tool work for you and your fishing needs is the important thing.

-C7
Muskydanno621
Posted 2/16/2017 11:36 AM (#850004 - in reply to #850002)
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HG definitely faster...there is no doubt. That being said PG all the way for big blades. If you need to pickup a full spool of line faster than that to catch fish i haven't seen it. Speed doesn't always "kill" and the PG is plenty fast to burn a big blade anyway. As much as i use my PG and still have to replace parts every year i can imagine it would be that much more bearing,gear and line guide pawl wear with the HG . Love the reel though and could see applications for both , but i could see myself using the HG more for rubber line pick up.
BNelson
Posted 2/16/2017 11:49 AM (#850009 - in reply to #850004)
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Location: Contrarian Island
A guy trolling 5 mph is going much faster than anyone can bring in a bucktail even with an hg. To me, I want the fastest speed I can get. Because. At times, that means more hits... we all want to catch more fish right? Or are you just happy with sunset pictures????
But use whatever you like...just giving my thoughts.

so what were the 2 guides Vegas?
25homes
Posted 2/16/2017 1:19 PM (#850018 - in reply to #849791)
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Im a big fan of the high speed reels myself I have the beast in the 50hs the 60hs and the reg 60 low gear along with teh revo rocket...which reel gets used the least the 60 4.9 beast...great reel but only use when I dont need speed or just pulling monster blades and dont want the xtra work...love the high speed reels you can reel slower but you can only reel so fast thats my opin
musky513
Posted 2/16/2017 1:34 PM (#850020 - in reply to #849876)
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"People seem to really like the lexa 400 for big blades....why assume the 400 Tranx wouldn't be able to handle the job? Plus it would be a lot lighter on the wallet..."

The 400 Lexa isn't near the reel that a Tranx 500 PG is. I have a couple of each. The Lexas I have didn't last a season and I didn't throw anything bigger than 8's for blades. In the long run getting a 500 will save money over getting the 400 Lexa repaired again and again...
Northern Falls
Posted 2/16/2017 1:35 PM (#850021 - in reply to #849791)
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A better way to go is figure out what the "Big name" Pro's are using HG or PG....of course they would have both and use them for different applications, but what is their go to reel if they only had one to hook up with? Some of us can't justify buying just one of these let alone two of them and two rods.....that's a lot of coin....
Rudedog
Posted 2/16/2017 1:47 PM (#850023 - in reply to #850021)
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Location: S.W. WI
my 2 cents.
The faster 500 HG version is more versatile. It can do both speed and power. the PG cannot.
I have the 500 HG, added a LJV longer handle. Very fast and not hard to reel at full spool with that longer handle at 40" per turn.
I can always make it a slow power reel (like a PG) by dumping line off (smaller spool+big handle = super easy pull) I do this in the fall. 30" per turn.


vegas492
Posted 2/16/2017 2:03 PM (#850027 - in reply to #850000)
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BNelson - 2/16/2017 10:56 AM

well good for them, they are on the water about every day, they should catch a lot more per season. duh! ..and I'm not argueing with anyone (figure 8) if you look thru this thread there are many others that agree w me as well... it's pretty funny to me when guys come on here and try to use other ppls opinions as their own and with lack of actual results to back up those opinions. Me, I come on here with facts and the results that back up what I say...take it or leave it...as usual, the many m1st experts that catch 1 or 2 fish over 45" a year seem to know more than the rest of us who actually catch big fish regularly...comical.
Vegas looks to me you have 3 over 45 since 2010..? well last year in my boat I had 10 x that number..but don't listen to me, listen to your guide buddies, they clearly know more.
.. fact is, an HG can reel them faster... that's not an opinion.

If I ever wondered why so many of the guys that catch a lot of big fish don't or stopped posting on this site, this thread is a perfect answer....

And you know, not all fish end up in the Lunge Log.

Why are you so interested in the guides that I fish with? Seems to me like you already know one of them.

I don't think you want to continue going down the road of equipment...especially as it relates to finances and what people can afford to buy.

Yah, I know you too. Musky circle isn't that big.....
vegas492
Posted 2/16/2017 2:26 PM (#850030 - in reply to #850021)
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Northern Falls - 2/16/2017 1:35 PM

A better way to go is figure out what the "Big name" Pro's are using HG or PG....of course they would have both and use them for different applications, but what is their go to reel if they only had one to hook up with? Some of us can't justify buying just one of these let alone two of them and two rods.....that's a lot of coin....

I'm in that boat, I can't afford both reels. PG is more versatile.
But, if someone else were paying my bills, or buying my equipment, then I'd love to own both.
Unfortunately, that just isn't the case for me. Tough enough getting one new reel in the boat without the missus seeing it, let alone two.
BNelson
Posted 2/16/2017 2:29 PM (#850031 - in reply to #850030)
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Location: Contrarian Island
yes the circle is small, it's funny what PM's I've gotten about you the last 2 days Verges.. and if 1 of the 2 was the guide I was in the boat with, he didn't have a hook sharpener, a bulldawg, or a topwater in his boat the day I fished with him, when I asked for a mag dawg after 2 hrs no follows with 3 of us throwing blades he said they don't work here... lol. no lie...,,so yah, take what he says over what I say...classic! good luck w/ that!


T.Carlson
Posted 2/16/2017 2:48 PM (#850035 - in reply to #849791)
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BNelson.....some prefer the PG. Calm down buddy! HAHA

If you want speed, go with the HG
If you want to go slow, save your money and buy a less expensive reel. My Calcutta works great for slowing down, and costs over $100 less.
Or just reel slower with your HG....
BNelson
Posted 2/16/2017 2:48 PM (#850036 - in reply to #850035)
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Location: Contrarian Island
oh I'm calm... he just ticked me off today!
btfish
Posted 2/16/2017 4:27 PM (#850049 - in reply to #850036)
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Location: With my son on the water
Just an FYI:

On the Tranx 500 you only need to change the Main Drive Gear and the Pinion Gear and you can switch a PG to an HG. The yoke and all the drag washers are the same parts. It is an easy job and can be done in less than 5 minutes. Last time I purchased the parts to do this it cost $51.38 with the shipping.

Let me know if you would like some help locating the parts.

Brad
vegas492
Posted 2/16/2017 4:29 PM (#850053 - in reply to #849791)
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Feeling is mutual, bud. Neither of the guides i was referring to guide or really fish on Green Bay. Not sure who you are referring to.

Thuawk
Posted 2/16/2017 4:52 PM (#850059 - in reply to #849791)
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If you can't afford 2 tranx..... It boils down to this.... If you are going to spend $500 on a reel.... Why not buy an amazing bucktail reel and a amazing rubber reel and buy the Hg.... I spend 100 days on the water a year and I do not find the Hg to be taxing at all... Actuality pretty easy.... Maybe I'm just super strong. Or buy a pg to make big bucktails "easy" to pull!!!
BNelson
Posted 2/16/2017 5:09 PM (#850061 - in reply to #850059)
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Location: Contrarian Island
1 thing I've learned on this site over the years is there are those that are just full of hot air... oh and the P in the tranx pg stands for something other than power.
oh and verges you hire guides all the time...what is one day? cost of a new tranx? ya, you can't afford one, I feel bad for you.
Glaucus_
Posted 2/16/2017 7:44 PM (#850082 - in reply to #849791)
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I can afford to have both a PG and an HG and a rod locker full of other fancy combos too.
I ran both last year and found myself always reaching for the HG...blades, rubber, whatever. Because it was more versatile. I sold my PG last month for half price. Meh.

If I could only afford one, and bought a PG, I'd probably tell everyone...errr, myself...that was the best choice.
Headlock
Posted 2/16/2017 10:36 PM (#850095 - in reply to #850031)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




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BNelson - 2/16/2017 2:29 PM

yes the circle is small, it's funny what PM's I've gotten about you the last 2 days Verges.. and if 1 of the 2 was the guide I was in the boat with, he didn't have a hook sharpener, a bulldawg, or a topwater in his boat the day I fished with him, when I asked for a mag dawg after 2 hrs no follows with 3 of us throwing blades he said they don't work here... lol. no lie...,,so yah, take what he says over what I say...classic! good luck w/ that!




What is this hook sharpener you speak of I'm glad you showed me those handles also to put the HG. Made the reel even better.
wisskie
Posted 2/17/2017 8:15 AM (#850113 - in reply to #849791)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??


I can bench press 400 lbs and curl 175. I've raced pro's with my Abu Garcia c3 and had no problems reeling in 13's faster than they could get their 10's in with the HG just sayin. It all depends on if you are a weakling or a BAMF.
cincinnati
Posted 2/17/2017 8:18 AM (#850114 - in reply to #850113)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




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Location: West Chester, OH
wisskie - 2/17/2017 9:15 AM

I can bench press 400 lbs and curl 175. I've raced pro's with my Abu Garcia c3 and had no problems reeling in 13's faster than they could get their 10's in with the HG just sayin. It all depends on if you are a weakling or a BAMF.


Awesome! What's your best marathon time?
BNelson
Posted 2/17/2017 8:34 AM (#850120 - in reply to #850114)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??





Location: Contrarian Island
this is the handle I put on the hg... makes it even easier to bring in bucktails fast...yes, faster than the PG!
black eva knob. killer.

http://www.jiggingworld.com/shimano-trinidad-a-series-eva-aluminum-...
tolle141
Posted 2/17/2017 6:06 PM (#850192 - in reply to #849791)
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Are we arguing what reels are more capable or whether or not the 400A and 400AHG can effectively retrieve big blades and rubber respectively?

For the people (Brad) saying that speed kills, you're absolutely right.... some days. Those days one wants a fast retrieve. There are other days where a slower, deeper retrieve puts more fish in the net. On those days, a slower reel is going to be easier to maintain the desired speed than an HG.

It's not entirely about what something can do, it's about whether you can do it all day, day after day, and have the focus when the big girl comes in.
BNelson
Posted 2/17/2017 6:23 PM (#850193 - in reply to #850192)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??





Location: Contrarian Island
No 500 pg and 500 hg.
Thuawk
Posted 2/17/2017 6:29 PM (#850194 - in reply to #849791)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




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Not trying to argue with anyone. Just trying to help out anyone thinking of buying the reel.... But the Hg is extremely easy to control speeds weather it be fast or slow.
Thuawk
Posted 2/17/2017 6:36 PM (#850196 - in reply to #849791)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




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The manipulation of speed might be the best asset of the reel in my opinion.
Pat Hoolihan
Posted 2/17/2017 8:27 PM (#850203 - in reply to #849791)
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There's two reels for a reason fellas, it's called options. I prefer the PG because I find it more enjoyable to use. But I also catch a lot of fish trolling under 3 mph so what do I know.
Northern Falls
Posted 2/18/2017 2:31 PM (#850272 - in reply to #850192)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




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tolle141 - 2/17/2017 6:06 PM

Are we arguing what reels are more capable or whether or not the 400A and 400AHG can effectively retrieve big blades and rubber respectively?

For the people (Brad) saying that speed kills, you're absolutely right.... some days. Those days one wants a fast retrieve. There are other days where a slower, deeper retrieve puts more fish in the net. On those days, a slower reel is going to be easier to maintain the desired speed than an HG.

It's not entirely about what something can do, it's about whether you can do it all day, day after day, and have the focus when the big girl comes in.



My original question was just to see which reel people were excited at purchasing this year and for what application. Whether it be one of the new Tranx's or the older 500 model.

Personally, i was getting excited about the 400 model for bigger blades ....10's and an occasionally bigger....but mainly 10's. I would have also used it for big rubber. After hearing some of the responses from those that have held it in person i am not a little skeptical. I didn't want something as big as the 500, but it sounds like the 400 is a much much smaller reel. Theres even a pic somewhere with a guy holding probably the 300 series and it looks like his thumb is the same size as the reel!! I am not looking for a bass size reel at all. I was hoping the 400 would be somewhere in between the curado and the Tranx 500 for size and it was great that it is much cheaper than the 500.

I might just hold off entirely for now unless i find a Tranx 500 for cheap. Just use my curado to burn some blades...
Jeff78
Posted 2/18/2017 3:01 PM (#850276 - in reply to #849791)
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Location: central Wisconsin
I am holding off on the new Tranx for a while, these are not built in Japan like the 500 Tranx or the Calcuttas. These are built in Malaysia which may turn out to be a nonfactor but I'll wait.
4amuskie
Posted 2/18/2017 6:57 PM (#850293 - in reply to #849791)
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The new Tranx 400 has the same spool capacity as the 400D. I use the 400D and love its silky smoothness. The Tranx 400A will have a touch more line pickup than the 400D at 30 inches vs 27. The 400AHG blows it away at 40 inches. Put the Tranx 400AHG on a 10ft rod and rip some rubber. It'll beat the heck outa the 500 all day long IMHO especially at $200 cheaper!!!!
Born
Posted 2/19/2017 10:10 AM (#850328 - in reply to #849791)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




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Location: MN
This has been a great read. I have been using dinosaurs (400 TE ). Considering a new Shimano, and after reading through this it would be a HG, if I thought I made a huge mistake I would get these parts, Main Drive Gear and the Pinion Gear and change to a PG. I'm pretty handy.

I rarely get to fish for more than a few hours at a time, so the extra work is a non-factor.

FlyPiker
Posted 2/19/2017 11:21 AM (#850338 - in reply to #850120)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




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BNelson - 2/17/2017 8:34 AM

this is the handle I put on the hg... makes it even easier to bring in bucktails fast...yes, faster than the PG!
black eva knob. killer.

http://www.jiggingworld.com/shimano-trinidad-a-series-eva-aluminum-...

BNelson, I've been checking these out as I like the EVA knobs over the stock Shimano stuff. Is the 45mm the size you roll with? Anyone know what size in mm's the Abu toro s 60 handle is? I find that size to be pretty comfortable, maybe just a pinch bigger.
BNelson
Posted 2/19/2017 12:49 PM (#850351 - in reply to #849791)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??





Location: Contrarian Island
yes, the 45 mm is the one I use... it's very comfortable.
kirkkopplin
Posted 2/19/2017 6:36 PM (#850372 - in reply to #849791)
Subject: RE: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




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Location: Madison
I'll throw my two cents in. Get an Avet two speed and you will have the best of both worlds. I am a lefty and it was the best option I could find for big blades. It does not have a level wind so it is a dedicated reel for blades. On the low gear you don't even know the blades are turning, in the high gear i can burn 10's with ease. Never used a tranx so I can not compare speed, but the reel is much smaller and easier to palm if that is how you hold your rod.
BNelson
Posted 2/19/2017 6:41 PM (#850373 - in reply to #850372)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??





Location: Contrarian Island
all the avets I was in the boat with sounded like a meat grinder! maybe yours is smooth / quiet .... the one Avet I compared speed with the hg was still faster...
kirkkopplin
Posted 2/19/2017 6:57 PM (#850378 - in reply to #850373)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




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Location: Madison
no not very quiet, but like i said not many options for lefties
Dan111
Posted 12/2/2017 7:39 PM (#885713 - in reply to #849791)
Subject: Re: Shimano Tranx .... What & Why??




Location: ontario
a tranx hg is definitely not faster than an avet lol. A jx 6.0 does 46 ipt and a hx does 47 and even the smaller mxj 6.0 does 46 all with lower gear ratios. than the hg trAnx. Probably not recommend tho for novice anglers but in the right hands they are wicked