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Location: With my son on the water | I have seen a few of you mention that Shimano is coming out with a Tranx 400. It's not like I need another reel but I could not find any information on the Shimano Web page that I looked at. I may have missed it but does anyone have a link where I could get the specs of the 400?
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| There's not really any information, any where.
One web-shop posted a picture and information of something that looked like a combination of a tranx and a currado, named Tranx and a list of 300/400/301/401 and some gear ratios. They removed it from the website again , and sins then everyone has gone crazy. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | Chase outdoors has em on their site |
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Location: Madison, WI | dont see em on there anymore... i wonder what they did to drop the MSRP by 200 bucks compared to the normal tranx |
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| johnsonaaro2 - 1/5/2017 2:08 PM dont see em on there anymore... i wonder what they did to drop the MSRP by 200 bucks compared to the normal tranx It sure looks like they built a Curado 300i/400i and put the Tranx name on it. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | http://shop.chase-outdoors.com/catalog.php?category=109347 |
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Location: With my son on the water | Does anyone see IPT on the's reels?
Brad Nelson,Thanks. I must say you are King when it comes to finding stuff.
Stay warm, Brad |
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Location: Contrarian Island | someone else sent me that link so I can't take credit...lol
I think it is 30" for slower one and 40" for the high speeed. |
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Location: With my son on the water | No 501 but a 401 is listed which may be an option? |
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| I think they just stuck the name on it to sucker people in thinking it was a real tranx but it's just a curado I don't think it's any bigger than a revo toro 60. Line capacity is the same. now a size in between a rt 60 and real tranx. That's something I would jump on in a heartbeat. |
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Location: Minnesota | I'll believe it when I see it. Talked to the bait shop they have not heard a thing other then there working on it. |
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| I did find this online its a Tranx 300 left and right handed and it on the shimano New Zealand http://www.shimanofishing.co.nz/products/reels/baitcast/tranx-300 |
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| These are those curado 300's they're coming out with. |
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| Didnt someone tease about a 501 tranx on another thread? |
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Location: Wisconsin River | a Currado/Tranx redesign would make sense. Any word on a release date? |
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| Later this spring.
Anyone who says it's "just" a Curado rebranded as a Tranx to "sucker" people into believing it's a "real" Tranx does not know what they're talking about. The Curado is already a superb reel...upgrading it with current/better Shimano technology like Hagane gears, X-ship, higher drag power, and adding another size at a very accessible price point.
More options, more competition is great for us consumers.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | You will see the full release of the reels in March right here. |
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Location: Almond, WI | But Steve that's two months away!!! Jk.
On that Chase Outdoors site it does list the 300 and 400s but says they don't ship till March. I also agree with Glaucus, I fail to see a problem with an upgraded Curado (which is a very nice little reel). |
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| Glaucus_ - 1/10/2017 10:53 AM
Later this spring.
Anyone who says it's "just" a Curado rebranded as a Tranx to "sucker" people into believing it's a "real" Tranx does not know what they're talking about. The Curado is already a superb reel...upgrading it with current/better Shimano technology like Hagane gears, X-ship, higher drag power, and adding another size at a very accessible price point.
More options, more competition is great for us consumers.
So it's a Tranx that costs $200 less than a Tranx. Makes perfect sense.
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| So it's a Tranx that costs $200 less than a Tranx. Makes perfect sense.
Because, Economics 101.
People can just never seem to grasp the idea that production costs determine profit margin relative to price, but it's market conditions that determine the final price. And Shimano is a moderately successful company with some small amount of experience in this area.
Tranx 500: zero competition with no comparable reels, price is high, margins are big.
Tranx 300/400: lots of competition in that market segment, price is lower, margins are smaller.
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Glaucus_ - 1/10/2017 2:14 PM
So it's a Tranx that costs $200 less than a Tranx. Makes perfect sense.
Because, Economics 101.
People can just never seem to grasp the idea that production costs determine profit margin relative to price, but it's market conditions that determine the final price. And Shimano is a moderately successful company with some small amount of experience in this area.
Tranx 500: zero competition with no comparable reels, price is high, margins are big.
Tranx 300/400: lots of competition in that market segment, price is lower, margins are smaller.
TRUE But price is also predicated by cost of parts and design of the reel mostly.
Cant wait to see one in person and see the parts and design Shimano came up with, I'm sure it will be a ground breaking reel as most Shimano's reels are. |
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Location: Madison, WI | im very interested to see what you say when you do get your hands on it pikemaster. If the MSRP on the 400 size was $400 i would have preordered one right away(if you can do that). at $300 i just dont have the confidence that its gonna be on the same level as the 500 Tranx, but i hope im proven wrong |
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Location: mercer wi | Glaucus_ - 1/10/2017 9:53 AM
Later this spring.
Anyone who says it's "just" a Curado rebranded as a Tranx to "sucker" people into believing it's a "real" Tranx does not know what they're talking about. The Curado is already a superb reel...upgrading it with current/better Shimano technology like Hagane gears, X-ship, higher drag power, and adding another size at a very accessible price point.
More options, more competition is great for us consumers.
I don't think anybody said its a curado rebranded or shimano is trying to SUCKER anybody. If you look at what shimano did with their curado 200 line, it's the same upgrades. Not saying it's not a good reel but any reel that's going to carry the tranx branding has alot to live up to. |
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| upnortdave - 1/10/2017 5:37 PM
Glaucus_ - 1/10/2017 9:53 AM
Later this spring.
Anyone who says it's "just" a Curado rebranded as a Tranx to "sucker" people into believing it's a "real" Tranx does not know what they're talking about. The Curado is already a superb reel...upgrading it with current/better Shimano technology like Hagane gears, X-ship, higher drag power, and adding another size at a very accessible price point.
More options, more competition is great for us consumers.
I don't think anybody said its a curado rebranded or shimano is trying to SUCKER anybody. If you look at what shimano did with their curado 200 line, it's the same upgrades. Not saying it's not a good reel but any reel that's going to carry the tranx branding has alot to live up to.
^^ This. New Curado's are very impressive. I think people were just saying that it's not going to be launched as a Tranx, it's being launched as a Curado 300
I'm curious about the new curado's specs. I'm kind of hoping you have performance of the 400 size reels a couple years ago in a 300 size body. |
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Location: mercer wi | So now I'm confused. Is it a new tranx or curado |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It's a Tranx. |
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Location: mercer wi | Hoping they may have one at wausau show to see. Either way it's goin to be a good reel or great reel. |
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| I don't think anybody said its a curado rebranded or shimano is trying to SUCKER anybody.
Except for the person who said this?
I think they just stuck the name on it to sucker people in thinking it was a real tranx
The proof is always in the pudding, of course. By this time next year folks will have a lot more information after having used them for a full season. At the same time, I remember how quiet the "too big" and "too expensive" and "too too too" skeptics became after the Tranx 500 was out for a year of general use. Lots of other brands have promised the next best thing in muskie reels, and very few have delivered the same consistent quality as Shimano, so I'm betting this will probably be a winner too.
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| I hope the speedy version of the 400 can deliver enough power to handle larger 10s without the weight of the 500HG. You can get a wonderfully light rod for 10s if you go custom, but then you are stuck sticking a giant Tranx to achieve the desired levels of power/speed/durability to handle the big blades. If the 400 can deliver an acceptable level of those three attributes with lighter weight it will be a welcome addition to my line up.
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Location: St. Lawrence River | wisskie - 1/11/2017 1:35 PM
Can anybody confirm 100% that there will be new offerings from Shimano this spring? I was just going to order a reel that I found for a good price but will hold off if new products will be available in a few months.
Take this for what it's worth to you.
Like I said before, and like others have said, Chase Outdoors is offering at this very moment what they are calling a Shimano Tranx 300 and a Shimano Tranx 400 in both 5.8.1 gear assembly and a 7.6.1 gear assembly. They are captioned with " **Ships in March." Indicating that if you purchase right now for around $299.99, your reel will ship in March. They are labeled with a picture of what seems like a reengineered Curado but who could know? They may not have even been supplied a photo.
I would wait if I were you my friend. That's just me. You can always snag Curados, Beasts, Lexas and the like for cheap on eBay. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | wisskie - 1/11/2017 12:35 PM
Can anybody confirm 100% that there will be new offerings from Shimano this spring? I was just going to order a reel that I found for a good price but will hold off if new products will be available in a few months.
Obviously, yes. A Tranx 400 and a Tranx 300. March launch...stand by for any other news we receive. |
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Location: MN | sworrall - 1/11/2017 5:48 PM
wisskie - 1/11/2017 12:35 PM
Can anybody confirm 100% that there will be new offerings from Shimano this spring? I was just going to order a reel that I found for a good price but will hold off if new products will be available in a few months.
Obviously, yes. A Tranx 400 and a Tranx 300. March launch...stand by for any other news we receive.
Steve will you do a review of these like you did with the new Abu reels. I found those helpful. |
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| I don't see them on the Chase Outdoors site anymore, but I wanna say they were in the 11.5 - 12 oz. range.
300A/400A was 30" per crank (5.8:1).
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Location: Hayward, WI | Will be interesting to see what they come up with, or what comes out I should say. Surprised nobody commented on the gear ratios though. Seems most TRANX proponents sang praises about the Inches Per Turn of the TRANX and getting it with such low gear ratios compared to many other reels.
The 5.8 and 7.6 ratios are fairly high - not much different than other reels in this size range. Maybe even higher. I'm sure they will be very nice reels, but wonder if they will be the smaller bullet proof double 10 reel that I think many people are hoping they are (and I understand that making extreme durability in a smaller package is probably THE challenge that reel makers face so it's just the nature of the beast).
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | I am also interested in seeing the internals for the new "Tranx" 400 sized reels. I service reels as a side business and have not seen anything that is built like the Tranx 500 reels. I hope the 400 is truly a smaller 500 as far as the internal components are concerned. The release mechanism and bar, gear size, captured pinion gear, and sheer size make the 500 a tank. I hope the 400 lives up to the Tranx name. I will be watching closely to see the internals of the 400 before making purchases for myself. If they are as solid as the 500's, I will likely dump several of the other reels that I have. |
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Location: MN | curleytail - 1/12/2017 9:49 AM
Will be interesting to see what they come up with, or what comes out I should say. Surprised nobody commented on the gear ratios though. Seems most TRANX proponents sang praises about the Inches Per Turn of the TRANX and getting it with such low gear ratios compared to many other reels.
The 5.8 and 7.6 ratios are fairly high - not much different than other reels in this size range. Maybe even higher. I'm sure they will be very nice reels, but wonder if they will be the smaller bullet proof double 10 reel that I think many people are hoping they are (and I understand that making extreme durability in a smaller package is probably THE challenge that reel makers face so it's just the nature of the beast).
Tucker
The fact that they require such high gear ratio to achieve the IPT tells me the gears are not as big so I'm thinking they will require more effort/work and will not feel as good but we'll see |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Propster - 1/12/2017 11:51 AM
curleytail - 1/12/2017 9:49 AM
Will be interesting to see what they come up with, or what comes out I should say. Surprised nobody commented on the gear ratios though. Seems most TRANX proponents sang praises about the Inches Per Turn of the TRANX and getting it with such low gear ratios compared to many other reels.
The 5.8 and 7.6 ratios are fairly high - not much different than other reels in this size range. Maybe even higher. I'm sure they will be very nice reels, but wonder if they will be the smaller bullet proof double 10 reel that I think many people are hoping they are (and I understand that making extreme durability in a smaller package is probably THE challenge that reel makers face so it's just the nature of the beast).
Tucker
The fact that they require such high gear ratio to achieve the IPT tells me the gears are not as big so I'm thinking they will require more effort/work and will not feel as good but we'll see
I think the main thing it means is the spool isn't as tall so they need a higher ratio to get the desired inches per turn. One could probably say the smaller reel likely needs smaller diameter gears too, which might not be any harder to turn necessarily, but might be less durable and more likely to get rough over time if the gear teeth start to round off/deform due to less surface area.
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Location: Madison, WI | curleytail - 1/12/2017 12:22 PM
Propster - 1/12/2017 11:51 AM
curleytail - 1/12/2017 9:49 AM
Will be interesting to see what they come up with, or what comes out I should say. Surprised nobody commented on the gear ratios though. Seems most TRANX proponents sang praises about the Inches Per Turn of the TRANX and getting it with such low gear ratios compared to many other reels.
The 5.8 and 7.6 ratios are fairly high - not much different than other reels in this size range. Maybe even higher. I'm sure they will be very nice reels, but wonder if they will be the smaller bullet proof double 10 reel that I think many people are hoping they are (and I understand that making extreme durability in a smaller package is probably THE challenge that reel makers face so it's just the nature of the beast).
Tucker
The fact that they require such high gear ratio to achieve the IPT tells me the gears are not as big so I'm thinking they will require more effort/work and will not feel as good but we'll see
I think the main thing it means is the spool isn't as tall so they need a higher ratio to get the desired inches per turn. One could probably say the smaller reel likely needs smaller diameter gears too, which might not be any harder to turn necessarily, but might be less durable and more likely to get rough over time if the gear teeth start to round off/deform due to less surface area.
Just speculation at this point though.
Tucker
Agreed... i think from an effort standpoint it really simplifies it to look at just the IPT vs handle length rather than gear ratio/reel size/ all that jazz. if i can slap my LJV handle on the 400 size the 40 IPT will be amazing. |
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Location: MN | It might do the speed but with more effort |
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| I'm very interested in the size of the handle connection. Being able to stick an LJV or Jigging World aftermarket handle on one would be great...and will speak volumes about the amount of torque that the gears and spool shaft can handle.
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| There will be a big fishing show (clermont) in europe this weekend.
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| The material the gears are made of will be an important factor of durability as well. Brass would not be great, stainless would be way better. Much like Daiwa went away from brass in the Lexa |
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Location: MN | musky513 - 1/12/2017 2:54 PM
The material the gears are made of will be an important factor of durability as well. Brass would not be great, stainless would be way better. Much like Daiwa went away from brass in the Lexa
Except they will get noisy as heck |
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Location: Madison, WI | I read on a saltwater site that part of the price reduction is because these are being made in malaysia instead of Japan. No idea if this holds any water though. |
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| "Except they will get noisy as heck"
The brass gears got noisy as heck on my Lexas in less than a years worth of not heavy use...I can't imagine that a stainless gear that is harder and less prone to wear would be worse... |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | musky513 - 1/12/2017 2:54 PM
The material the gears are made of will be an important factor of durability as well. Brass would not be great, stainless would be way better. Much like Daiwa went away from brass in the Lexa
The Tranx 500's have brass gears. Brass is fine if it is the right material, hardness, is machined properly, etc. Stainless is by nature noisy. |
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Location: MN | musky513 - 1/12/2017 7:14 PM
"Except they will get noisy as heck"
The brass gears got noisy as heck on my Lexas in less than a years worth of not heavy use...I can't imagine that a stainless gear that is harder and less prone to wear would be worse...
That's more because it's a Lexa than because it's brass. I work on a lot of Lexas. |
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| I just read on a french fishing blog that the tranx 301/401 should be presented at the clermont fishing show this weekend in france.
http://esoxiste.com/cnpl-2017-presents-absents/
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | I've been digging around the internet looking for some nacl'S but I heard about the tranx 300 and 400 yesterday. Does anybody have any photos of the 400 I was able to find photos of the 300 but nothing in the 400. |
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| The shimano new zealand link on the first page of this thread has a pic of it |
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Location: mercer wi | This is my opinion. I think this new tranx line will be and outstanding reel to have, both gears. But I can't believe this will be a small version on the 500 tranx. The 500 tranx it a straight up power reel. I've used both, I've used the beast 60 in both gears, I've used lexa 400 in 5 and 6 gear. Nothing on the market compares to the 500 power. If all I threw was 10 blade, all I'd use is the 500pg. If all I threw was super rubber, all is use is the hg. The only down fall for the 500 is the size FOR ME. I believe the new smaller line of tranx will fill that low pro demand for shimano. These will be great all around reels. |
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| upnortdave - 1/13/2017 6:52 PM
This is my opinion. I think this new tranx line will be and outstanding reel to have, both gears. But I can't believe this will be a small version on the 500 tranx. The 500 tranx it a straight up power reel. I've used both, I've used the beast 60 in both gears, I've used lexa 400 in 5 and 6 gear. Nothing on the market compares to the 500 power. If all I threw was 10 blade, all I'd use is the 500pg. If all I threw was super rubber, all is use is the hg. The only down fall for the 500 is the size FOR ME. I believe the new smaller line of tranx will fill that low pro demand for shimano. These will be great all around reels.
Agreed. These will be 300 and 400 size reels so expecting them to perform like a 500 size reel is misguided. These will be ergonomic 300 and 400 size reels with the performance and durability you'd expect from Shimano.
I suspect these will use a lot of the same parts you see in the Calcutta D series, just in a low-profile design. Tranx was a trinidad with a levelwind.
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| My one an only question is why is it that there willing to make the 301 an 401 in lefty but they won't in the 500? If they feel there's a market with the 301an 401 the same markets there for the 500 |
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| The market for a 500 size reel is small, even smaller for lefty reels. Bass guys and inshore guys probably don't want a 500 size reel, much larger market for the 300 & 400 sizes. The most common reasons that stand out to to me of why muskie guys don't like the Tranx 500 is the size and cost. Muskie fishing is still small compared to bass. That isn't talking about international sales either. |
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| Confirmed in an interview on Sunday by Dave Pfieffer (President, Shimano America):
- 300 and 400 sizes
- each size with a 5.8:1 or 7.6:1 ratio option.
http://www.hookup1090.com/show-archives/
Debut will be on March 1st in Long Beach.
http://www.fredhall.com/long-beach/
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Well, I just bought a nacl on eBay for a great price so I guess I'm going to need to wait for my tranx 400, I'm defiantly getting one though |
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| From the Shimano Product Support section on TackleTour:
http://forums.tackletour.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=73877
Tranx 300/400
The Tranx family is now much larger and more diverse. Shimano created the large low profile reel market with the Tranx 500 model. The addition of the 300 and 400 sizes provides heavy duty low profile reels for multiple applications. We took several steps to improve durability for the saltwater market as well as the demanding freshwater anglers. Available in both right and left hand models in two gear ratios.
The compact body design allows for increased comfort and ergonomics. The physical size of the 300 is smaller than the current Curado 300E. We made the spool slightly taller to improve casting performance. It also aids in line pick up when using a slower gear ratio.
Coreprotect is a feature that we have been using in our spinning reel models for a few years. This is a water resistance design to prevent water entry in susceptible areas of the reel. We have now added this feature to the Tranx 300/400 model reels.
Worm shaft seal: The first area where water can enter the reel, when sitting in the rod holder taking ocean spray, or while fishing with the reel.
Anti-Reverse bearing seal: This is a common area for water to enter the reel from heavy spray on those rough days. Seals are used on both sides of the bearing to eliminate water from getting into the bearing.
Frame Seal 1: The pinion support bearing is a common area for corrosion when used in saltwater. We have made design changes to the spool and frame to eliminate water from entering this area. A special seal was also added to further reduce the possibility of water getting into the bearing and gear box.
Clutch Button Seal: Another common area for water to enter the reel from both spray and use. A seal has been added to the inside to keep water out.
Frame Seal 2: Special grease has been used between the side plate and frame to prevent entry through this area.
A special clutch retention mechanism was developed to prevent the clutch from tripping on a hard cast. We further reduced the chances for the clutch to trip by use of a new carbon handle knob (HG only). This greatly reduces the weight of the handle knob and inertia when casting.
The drag range has been adjusted for use with heavier lines. The drag curve is very steep and is appreciated when fishing with heavy braided line and leaders.
Gear strength and durability has been increased greatly over Curado 300E model.
Hagane body
Aluminum A-side plate (handle side)
Cross Carbon drag
22 pounds max drag (standard model), 18 pounds max drag (HG model)
X-Ship
VBS braking system
Escape Hatch side plate access
5.8:1 gear ratio (Standard) 30 inches per crank
7.6:1 gear ratio (HG) 40 inches per crank
300/301 Line Capacity Mono 12/230, 14/180, 17/150 Power Pro 40/195, 50/190, 65/125
400/401 Line Capacity Mono 12/330, 14/260, 20/160 Power Pro 50/275, 65/170, 80/140
5+1 S-ARB bearings
11.6 ounces (Standard) 12 ounces (HG)
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| Literally drooling right now.
How is the IPT the same for the 300 and 400 in their respective model (standard and HG) if the gearing is the same?
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Location: MN | tolle141 - 1/18/2017 2:27 PM
Literally drooling right now.
How is the IPT the same for the 300 and 400 in their respective model (standard and HG) if the gearing is the same?
Thanks!
It can't be if the spool size is different as is implied. I have a feeling they are only showing the spec there for one of the two reels, otherwise you would see 4 different weights listed as well, instead of just two which is stated as being PG and HG weights. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | sure it can, spool width is probably wider on the 400..but same diameter... |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Don't need one, don't need one, dont need one, don't need one, don't need one, don't need one, don't need one.... |
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Location: Madison, WI | Well geesh, if anyone's got a beast 50 hs they are ready to sell........price point for this at 280 is nice. |
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| I got a call from the local Shimano rep and he will have a 300 and 400 at our local sportsman show next week. I'm gonna head down there and play with them and get some pics. |
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| BNelson - 1/18/2017 3:48 PM
sure it can, spool width is probably wider on the 400..but same diameter...
Yeah that's the only way I can see. I guess I'll have to see it in person to understand why anyone (chasing any fish) would choose the 300. Must be a reason. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Fish Shimano Facebook page. |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Ok, sorry to high jack the thread but do you guys actually think that the tranx 400 will be more effective than the 500. I'm not saying anybody is wrong for wanting one, I'm probably going to get one myself but do you think it can hold its own with the 500? |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Musky_Mo16 - 1/20/2017 9:10 PM
Ok, sorry to high jack the thread but do you guys actually think that the tranx 400 will be more effective than the 500. I'm not saying anybody is wrong for wanting one, I'm probably going to get one myself but do you think it can hold its own with the 500?
No. Nobody thinks that. Nothing can do what a Tranx 500 can do. It will just be a very impressive 400 sized option. |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Ok, thank you for clearing that up. I thought some people were saying that the 400 could become the new 500, but I just couldn't see that happening. |
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| tolle141 - 1/19/2017 12:56 PM
BNelson - 1/18/2017 3:48 PM
sure it can, spool width is probably wider on the 400..but same diameter...
Yeah that's the only way I can see. I guess I'll have to see it in person to understand why anyone (chasing any fish ) would choose the 300. Must be a reason.
Have you tried casting with the 300d and 400D ?
The 300D feels A LOT smoother then the 400. Due to the lower exit angle from the narrow spool, when the line guide is all the way to one of the sides.
I have both the 300D and 400D and the 300 is 100% my go to reel for smaller stuff, (small jerks, spinnderbaits dc7, dc8 jackpods aso.) I will for sure get one of the 300 size "tranx". |
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| Musky_Mo16 - 1/20/2017 8:49 PM
Ok, thank you for clearing that up. I thought some people were saying that the 400 could become the new 500, but I just couldn't see that happening.
I think the 400 is going to take the majority of the 500's market share in the musky world. My personal gripe with the 500 was that it was too powerful. I constantly had moments with 10's where I felt like my blades were fouled with weeds. Nope, just too much power to feel them.
Steve - have you run this reel yet?
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Not yet, expecting one soon. |
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Location: Pine River MN. | This morning I saw them in Musky Shops on line catalog. It looks like they will be available in March. |
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| 30" per crank for all models? That can't be right.
It should say 30" for the 5.8:1 models and 40" for the 7.6:1 models.
For comparison:
- Curado 300E, 65lb/120yds, 6.2:1 with 28"/crank
- Curado 300EJ, 65lb/120yds, 6.9:1 with 32"/crank
- Tranx 300A, 65lb/125yds, 5.8:1 with 30"/crank
- Tranx 300AHG, 65lb/125yds, 7.6:1 with 40"/crank
- Tranx 400A, 80lb/140yds, 5.8:1 with 30"/crank
- Tranx 400AHG, 80lb/140yds, 7.6:1 with 40"/crank
- Tranx 500PG, 80lb/210yds, 4.6:1 with 30"/crank
- Tranx 500HG, 80lb/210yds, 6.6:1 with 43"/crank
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| JakeStCroixSkis - 1/20/2017 8:16 PM
Musky_Mo16 - 1/20/2017 9:10 PM
Ok, sorry to high jack the thread but do you guys actually think that the tranx 400 will be more effective than the 500. I'm not saying anybody is wrong for wanting one, I'm probably going to get one myself but do you think it can hold its own with the 500?
No. Nobody thinks that. Nothing can do what a Tranx 500 can do. It will just be a very impressive 400 sized option.
For me the key question is how much of a drop off in torque there will be on the 400HG vs. the 500HG when pulling cowgirls. The retrieve speed difference is tolerable in my opinion. The 400 is 8oz. lighter than the 500 which is huge positive and corrects my biggest gripe with the 500. How much harder will it be to pull in 9s and 10s. Thats the question on my mind.
The 300HG sounds like a dynamite topwater reel. |
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Location: St Paul, Minnesota | I'm looking forward to PIKEMASTER's critique.
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Location: Madison, WI | Cloud7 - 1/24/2017 9:34 AM
I'm looking forward to PIKEMASTER's critique.
-C7
x2 also johndtuttle's |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I doubt the 400 size reels will have the torque or durability of the 500 Tranx, but I bet it will be a very nice reel and I'm surprised that retail will be at the $300 mark. That's lower retail than the Toro Beast (though they can be found for 300 or less).
I'll be curious to see how long the power handle on the 400 series is. That's a huge factor in how "easy" it feels to reel in hard pulling baits. Hopefully it will be such that it offers a good balance of speed and power. If so the standard ratio should handle 10's easy enough and still be fast enough to do anything but BURN bucktails. I've caught plenty of bucktail fish on 24" reels. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | I was looking at the add on the reels, looks like the power hane only comes with the 7.6
Gears serious only, the 5.8 gears come with the Double paddle only.
I'm sure Shimano will have the Power handles sometime this summer for Sale.
The 400 in 7.6 gears will be a great rubber reel. The 400 in 5.8 gears should be great
For DCG 10 if you get the power handle. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | I would have thought they would take a page out of Garcia's book and offer a standard double handle and a nice power handle option with each reel. The choices offered with the Beast 50/60 are really a nice feature. |
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| Read that they're going with a light, carbon handle to further reduce the risk of prematurely tripping the clutch on a cast. Lots of cool stuff in this reel. |
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| Sounds like I'll need one of each ratio... then I can put the power handle on the slower gears and the paddle on the fast gears! Hahaha!! |
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Location: Maplewood, MN | According to the Shimano page, the HG models have an 18 lb drag compared to a 22 lb on the none HG models. Can that be right?? |
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| JakeStCroixSkis - 1/24/2017 4:13 PM
I would have thought they would take a page out of Garcia's book and offer a standard double handle and a nice power handle option with each reel. The choices offered with the Beast 50/60 are really a nice feature.
My hunch is that's one way they're keeping the price at $300 vs the Beast at $399. New power handles like that go for $40-$50 bucks today. |
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Location: Detroit River | I wasn't planning on buying any new musky gear this year but since that 400 comes in a lefty & is priced lower than the Abu Toro Beast I'll be adding it to my arsenal. |
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| There's a video of the 300 in action on the 'Fish Shimano' Facebook page. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | They have them at the Schaumburg Show
Both the 300 and 400 Sweet Reel
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| Does the 300 have the power handle or the double paddle? |
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| ajrod88 - 1/27/2017 4:10 PM
Does the 300 have the power handle or the double paddle?
300HG - Power Handle
300 - Paddle Handle |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | ajrod88 - 1/27/2017 4:10 PM
Does the 300 have the power handle or the double paddle?
Both the 300 and 400 HG comes with a non balanced power handle
Both the 300 and 400 PG comes with a 105 mm approx double paddle handle.
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Richard, how long is the handle on the 400D?
Take care,
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | I would say same as the 400D Calcutta
105 mm long approx
I like the Double Paddle handle
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| Howdy,
I saw you (or someone claiming to be you) posted positively on another website about the after market counterbalanced handle with the foam grip for the 400D. If that was you, do you still prefer it, and, can the 400D handle the pressure it puts on it when using big lures?
Take care,
Ruddiger
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| PIKEMASTER - 1/29/2017 11:51 AM
I would say same as the 400D Calcutta
105 mm long approx
I like the Double Paddle handle
I'm not a fan of the Non Balanced Power Handle.
They said that between the handle being made of carbon (super light) and another feature, the risk of the clutch engaging on a cast is much, much lower. your thoughts? |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Ruddiger - 1/29/2017 12:30 PM
Howdy,
I saw you (or someone claiming to be you) posted positively on another website about the after market counterbalanced handle with the foam grip for the 400D. If that was you, do you still prefer it, and, can the 400D handle the pressure it puts on it when using big lures?
Take care,
Ruddiger
Yes I love the Power Handle I sell for the 300 400D reels
You can't use it as leverage to set the hook !!
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | tolle141 - 1/29/2017 1:53 PM
PIKEMASTER - 1/29/2017 11:51 AM
I would say same as the 400D Calcutta
105 mm long approx
I like the Double Paddle handle
I'm not a fan of the Non Balanced Power Handle.
They said that between the handle being made of carbon (super light ) and another feature, the risk of the clutch engaging on a cast is much, much lower. your thoughts?
The cast clutch mechanism on a 300 and 400 Tranx seem very solid to me just like the 500 Tranx. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | any word on when OutdoorFIRST will be able to show a disassembled version |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | RyanJoz - 2/2/2017 2:33 PM
any word on when OutdoorFIRST will be able to show a disassembled version
Probably after they are released if we get our hands on a couple. |
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| PIKEMASTER - 1/30/2017 8:01 AM
Ruddiger - 1/29/2017 12:30 PM
Howdy,
I saw you (or someone claiming to be you) posted positively on another website about the after market counterbalanced handle with the foam grip for the 400D. If that was you, do you still prefer it, and, can the 400D handle the pressure it puts on it when using big lures?
Take care,
Ruddiger
Yes I love the Power Handle I sell for the 300 400D reels
You can't use it as leverage to set the hook !!
Do you mind explaining what you mean by "You can't use it as leverage to set the hook !!" I find this interesting but don't quite know what you mean. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | tackleaddict - 2/3/2017 6:55 AM
PIKEMASTER - 1/30/2017 8:01 AM
Ruddiger - 1/29/2017 12:30 PM
Howdy,
I saw you (or someone claiming to be you) posted positively on another website about the after market counterbalanced handle with the foam grip for the 400D. If that was you, do you still prefer it, and, can the 400D handle the pressure it puts on it when using big lures?
Take care,
Ruddiger
I get reels in all the time with bent or broken off Power Handles
Because they use them as leverage onHook Sets.
Yes I love the Power Handle I sell for the 300 400D reels
You can't use it as leverage to set the hook !!
Do you mind explaining what you mean by "You can't use it as leverage to set the hook !!" I find this interesting but don't quite know what you mean. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | PIKEMASTER - 2/3/2017 7:34 AM
I get a lot of reels that come in the Shop that have Power Handles that are bent or broken OFF because guys use them as leverage on hook sets, they will pull on The Power Handle on hook sets.
Interesting. I've never had one fail on me but I guess I do use the handle as leverage when going into my figure 8s, instead of pulling with my left shoulder. Takes some strain off my neck and shoulder on a long day. |
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| I found this . Look at here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bBLAZq-wY0
esoxone |
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| Howdy,
Hopefully someone who has handled these reels will chime in and answer this, but how are the PG versions of these reels substantially different than the 300 and 400 Calcutta D, particularly for Cowgirls?
They appear to have a better drag, the same size spool, a slightly higher gear ratio, very similar weight, same length of paddle handle, and other similar features common to both reels.
From a power perspective only, is it really reasonable to expect the PG 400 to be that different than the 400D when it comes to blades?
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| Saw these reels and held them at the Expo. Yah, they are pretty sweet. I'm getting the 500 series, but my wife loved the 400 series and will be getting one for herself. Sales rep gave us the long speech about the 300 and 400 sizes, saying they are upgrades to the Curado line, but to me they felt more substantial. I really likes how the 400 fit the palm of my hand. It hast he profile that Abu should have had, smooth edges contoured for palming. Great pricepoint, too. Won't be long until I have a 400 series as well as the 500. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCPeqQw6UCo |
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| I'm not sure if anyone is interested but I just picked up the 400 Tranx 5:8:1. If you have any questions ask away. |
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| looks like im going to review the 301 Tranx for the one of the euro Distributors, just won a Facebook "draw" and they should send me one this week.
The Euro release date is the 6th of March as far as i know.
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Of the reel. Very solid cast button feel. The 500 is still
In a class by itself as Power goes, the 400 should be a
Great reel for smaller baits and ripping baits.
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| I don't have a pic, but I handled a 400 yesterday. It's been awhile since I've held a 300 Curado, but the Tranx seemed slightly bigger. It felt pretty solid though, like what a low profile 400D would feel like. |
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Location: mercer wi | At wausau show. Tranx 400 pretty much same size as toro 60. Super light reel. And power handle is nice. Just compared them at tadpoles booth |
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| from a friend that handled them both (300 &400) almost same size . |
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Location: central Wisconsin | I played with them in Wausau, the two sizes are pretty close. A lot smaller than the 500. I think they are smaller than the Beasts. The brakes are adjustable by removing the left side plate much the same as the Revo Toros. They felt ok in terms of smoothness, my TE's feel smoother. Priced at $279 and $299 with free line winding. |
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Location: Lino Lakes, MN | My thoughts on this reel. I feel there will be a lot of them getting torn up from guy's expecting the 400 Tranx to perform like the 500 Tranx. If you buy the 400's and do not use the big stuff they will be a rock solid reel for many years.
The Tranx 500's PG and HG are the very best purchases that I have made in my muskie fishing journey of close to 30 years. They just work. A little tlc and I am good for another year. I was a budget reel guy for many of those years. Never owned a Shimano 400 TE.
Good luck with the 400's - be careful of buying a used one.
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| more videos :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qy8fBvb6t0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtJPzwYxHt8
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| Just got the 300A cant wait to give it a beating, with spinnerbaits, small topwaters, and jerkbait.
Feels like a solid reel, haven't opened it yet though, but can't see a reason it shouldn't be as good as the 300D/400D, if they kept the level of Shimano quality. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La_i80k3xp4&t=82s |
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| Found a real good tear down comparison of the 400, 500, Lexa 300/400, and toro beast 50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La_i80k3xp4
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| He seems to be really high on them. Good news that he sees a lot from the 500 in the 400. |
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| Howdy,
I enjoyed the video and he definitely seemed high on the new Tranx and down on the Beasts.
I do have to say, however, that having used the Beasts, whatever shortcomings he sees in the reel certainly haven't manifested themselves on the water. The reels have performed well above my expectations aside from needing some oil.
To Abu's defense, It reminds me of when the original Calcutta 400 came out and all of the drive gears were mounted on a what appears to be a graphite or plastic insert (still are). My first reaction was "whats the point of an all aluminum frame and side plate if the internals are mounted on cheap plastic"?
Well, its now 22 years later, the design remains the same, and it has yet to be a problem. Just an observation.
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I like the design feature that will not let the reel engage
On the Cast !!!!!! How many times has that happened to you ??
Also the seals to keep water from getting into the reel.
Well Done Shimano !!!!
On the Beast that Drag System that saves the AR Bearing!!
Wow nice to see Cutting Edge Technology coming to reels. |
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| Ruddiger - 3/9/2017 10:15 AM
Howdy,
I enjoyed the video and he definitely seemed high on the new Tranx and down on the Beasts.
I do have to say, however, that having used the Beasts, whatever shortcomings he sees in the reel certainly haven't manifested themselves on the water. The reels have performed well above my expectations aside from needing some oil.
To Abu's defense, It reminds me of when the original Calcutta 400 came out and all of the drive gears were mounted on a what appears to be a graphite or plastic insert (still are). My first reaction was "whats the point of an all aluminum frame and side plate if the internals are mounted on cheap plastic"?
Well, its now 22 years later, the design remains the same, and it has yet to be a problem. Just an observation.
Take care,
Ruddiger
I agree. Performance of my beast has been phenomenal. I'd say the impression I get is that Shimano made a dedicated effort to simplify the design once it was performing the way they wanted. |
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| held the 400 yesterday. if Shimano wants to be consistent then the tranx 500 should actually be a 6 or 700 lol
I'm very impressed with these reels. Will definitely be picking one up before opener, and likely another one before August |
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| Did anyone else that handled these not care for the knob on the power handle? I've really become a fan of EVA knobs. In wet, cold conditions no way would I be able to hang onto that knob consistently. I'm sure you can get some aftermarket ones but I just don't get it - must be a saltwater thing. The paddle handle knobs were nice, and the reel overall felt and sounded fantastic. |
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Location: mercer wi | The knob seems like it could get cold and slippery in Oct Nov months. I do like the knobs on the Abu reels. Wish they would of offered both handles for these reels. They look really nice and feel nice. Time will tell. |
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| The handle and knob on the high speed reels does seem like it will be very slippery with a pair of gloves on or a healthy dose of slime. It's my understanding that you will be able to purchase a paddle handle for it though. The reels feel like a smaller footprint than the ABU variant but with a larger handle. Since ABU will not be bringing out a left handed retrieve rocket I see a high speed 401 tranx in my future for rubber. I hope it's as reliable as it feels, and I will not complain if the knob slips due to some slime. |
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| After watching the video comparison and take down of reels there is no doubt in my mind which reel will serve my purpose best. Since I fish until freeze up, reel icing becomes an extremely big issue. The least amount of water in the inner working of a reel I use will be a giant plus. I also have a great idea of which reel I wont be buying.
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| Hello, new to the site and glad I found it!
I am looking to get set up with a muskie rig, and looking for some advice. For a little background, I will be fishing mostly rivers and very small tributary creeks. Due to the water I'll be in I am looking at the 7'-7'6" St Croix Premiere rods. I've been looking hard recently at the new Tranx reels, and feel like it will be between them and the Calcutta 400b for me. As for lures, I plan to use mostly small to moderate size Muskie cranks, spinners, and some rubber. I will not be fishing everyday, probably between 10-20 a year for Muskie.
My question for this thread relates to the Tranx 300hg. I can get a good value on one at BPS due to gift cards and trade in program, but I am not real good with matching gear ratios to specific applications. Do you guys think that the high gear ratio of this reel will fit my setup and lures well, or should I hold out for a lower ratio model? Right now the 300hg is the only model in stock at BPS.
I appreciate any information you guys can offer, and I look forward to frequenting this site!
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| Mabren I would take into consideration the typical current flow on the rivers/streams you'll be fishing. If the current is pretty consistently fast then the high gear option would be my first choice. If you're fishing backwaters or slow moving rivers then it won't matter as much. If you're interested in the 300 A or either of the 400 Tranx choices why not just hold off a little bit. Shimano is just in the process of getting these reels to market and more seem to be arriving all the time. Don't force yourself into a decision based on what a store has available "today". You also mentioned the Calcutta B which is an excellent choice for an all around reel. They have been a proven, dependable reel for many years. It is on the slower end of the line pick-up spectrum so if you're considering a high gear option that might not work the best for you but otherwise I've got nothing but praise for the Calcutta 400 B's I've owned over the years. Good luck. |
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| Thanks for the reply. I will not be fishing in very strong current. As far as the different Tranx models go, I really have no preference, I just want to make sure I get the one that will suit the way I will be fishing the best. I prefer low profile reels overall, which is why I lean toward the new Tranx, but if i go with a round reel it will likely be the Calcutta. I completely agree with not rushing the purchase, but I do like the $50 trade in rebate and only have a couple weeks to take advantage of that. However if the consensus is that the slower reel will be better suited for my style, then I have no problem waiting and spending the extra $50. Since I am starting from scratch with muskie fishing, the $90 in trade in rebates between the rod and reel will allow me to buy some of the other goodies I will need. Thanks again for the advice! |
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| Welcome to the site! I'd suggest creating a new thread specifically on this.
Regarding the tranx, if you buy on the bay you'll probably save quite a bit. I'd hold off a few more weeks.
Regarding the rod, why only 7.5? Aside from all the usual benefits of a longer rod (figure 8's, better hook sets, line pickup, and lure control), I'd imagine the casting distance would be helpful for shore fishing. If space is an issue, multiple mfrs (TI, Okuma, Shimano, St Croix) offer telescoping options. Given that you're new to the sport, I'd look hard at one of these.
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| Yeah, I maybe should have done a separate thread. I didn't really want to hijack, I guess I was just thinking that since the reels I'm interested in were being discussed here I might get some opinions from people who are currently looking at the same reels.
As far as the rod, I will be fishing from a boat, but the primary spots I'll be targeting are quite small tributary creeks. They're not very wide at all, and there is a substantial tree canopy overhead. I know in my research I see the long sticks being suggested most often, but I just don't think they will suit what I will be doing well. Thanks for the reply! |
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Location: Romeo Michigan | Regarding the 400HG, how would one get a paddle handle instead of the power handle? |
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| Wondering the same thing. To me, it makes more sense to have the power handle on the PG Tranx. I like high speed reels to have paddle handles, because I think I can reel them faster. That being said, I just ordered a HG model and will probably love the power handle on it. |
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| Shimano said they'd offer it for $39. You can probably order it through your local muskie shop or online
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| A good video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCCgHz53HqM
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Location: Madison, WI | Looking at picking one up. Mainly going to be used for small bucktails/cranks however undecided on 7.6 or 5.8. Never had a musky reel before with that much pick up. Obviously for burning the blades higher is going to be better but also not sure if that gear if more for saltwater applications. HG worth it? |
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| I picked one up as well. I went with the HG, but I am using it for my rubber rod. This one does not have the power of the 500 series HG. If you arent using 9s and 10s...I think the HG would be fine. But mine wont ever reel in a bucktail. |
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| If you're burning big blades, the 500 is still probably the best way to go in terms of comfort and durability. All I know is I've never seen a double 10 move like I have with a 500HG.
The 400HG is probably going to be an excellent rubber reel though. |
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Location: Madison, WI | My bad, I should have been more specific. What I meant was burning small blades....nothing more than 8's. I use a winch on the larger stuff that is re geared to 5.3.
Just smaller bucktails, cranks. Even then, would the 40" per turn be too much if not used for line pickup (rubber, jerkbaits, etc.) |
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| I wouldnt think it would be. Depending on how big of cranks you are throwing. |
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Location: mercer wi | So I got a 400 hg to try and I filled the spool to Shimano suggesttion. I went to a local boat launch that has open water and casted a cowgirl with hooks removed. I only casted 10- 15 times. I was impressed by the easy of the pull. Not a whole lot of resistence. The power handle is sweet for the hg. I was reeling at a I would call a medium pass and the blades were bolging great. Time will tell the rest of the story but this reel is sweet. Had it on a big nasty by the way. |
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Location: MN | ^ Great feedback. That's really been my question - will it be the only smaller LP reel with 38+ IPT that can pull 10s.
Any chance you could measure the radius of the handle? That is, distance from the shaft to the center of the knob? By comparison, the Beast paddle is 52.5 mm, Komodo SS 364 is 49mm, and the 400 Komodo is 60 mm. Just wondering how the power handle leverage compares with the competition. |
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| Tranx 300/400 "A" low gear model has a 102mm double handle with oversized rubber knobs. (51mm from center.)
Tranx 300/400 "AHG" high gear model has a 70mm single handle with a Ci4+ handle knob.
Tranx 500 power handle is 65mm.
The Tranx 300/400 power handle should be available for separate purchase for around $40: part BNT5474
The Tranx 300/400 power handle knob is size "B" so could be replaced with the Tranx 500 or Curado 300 rubber knobs.
Also, the handle post is the usual 5mm x 8mm, so it will accept many Daiwa and Abu power handles (but need an 11mm hex nut rather than those brands 10mm nut), Tranx 500 handle, LJV handle, Trinidad handles or aftermarket handles such as those from Jigging World. Only consideration is that some longer/heavier handles may generate enough force to flip the bail closed on a cast...this is why the Tranx 300/400 power handle knob is made from Ci4, to keep it light weight.
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Location: MN | Awesome - thank you. The above report makes sense given the length of the power handle.
Neglecting internal friction, the force applied to the handle is proportional to IPT / handle radius. That ratio for the 300/400 HG Tranx is slightly less than a Beast 50 HS or NaCl 5.4:1 with their double paddles.
Very excited about this reel. Hopefully it will hold up over time. |
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Location: Blaine, MN | If anyone is interested in selling their AHG Power handle before the end of May (When I will just buy from Shimano) I would take if off their hands at a premium. My season will already be 2 months old by then. |
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| http://tackletour.com/previewshimanotranx.html |
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Location: Elgin IL | I haven't casted it yet but my first impression I was disappointed in the size but did like the huge paddle handle. Little bigger than a Curado...4 drag washers bigger spool...I may buy the power handle and the HG gear and pinion and switch back and forth.
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| Why were you disappointed in the size, is to big or to small ? |
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Location: Elgin IL | Small...was thinking more like a Lexa 400 size |
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Location: MN | How big is the 400 compared to the curado 300ej? |
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Location: central Wisconsin | NathanH - 4/6/2017 12:19 PM
How big is the 400 compared to the curado 300ej?
It is bigger than that. I'd say similar to a Revo Toro 60. |
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| does anyone know if/when Cabela's will be getting the 400 size reels? I"ve got some Cabela's cash I need to use. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | PredLuR - 3/24/2017 7:57 AM
Looking at picking one up. Mainly going to be used for small bucktails/cranks however undecided on 7.6 or 5.8. Never had a musky reel before with that much pick up. Obviously for burning the blades higher is going to be better but also not sure if that gear if more for saltwater applications. HG worth it?
They will go faster, as will the life span of the reel. Don't buy a high speed reel for big blades. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | crazy talk! tranx 500s don't break...and the HG will reel them in faster than other reels... |
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| but the 400 HG will probably burn out pretty fast. |
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| Ej300 vs tranx 400hg. Will the 400 bring 8'a in easier than the 300ej? I like small reels. It's not all about speed for me. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Muskie Gal - 4/10/2017 1:26 PM
Ej300 vs tranx 400hg. Will the 400 bring 8'a in easier than the 300ej? I like small reels. It's not all about speed for me.
I would imagine it will be HARDER to bring 8s in on a higher speed reel. Maybe look at the 400 in a 5.8. Personal feeling is that reeling faster with less resistance is less taxing on the hands/arms/emotions versus reeling slower and its work each moment. |
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Location: Minnesota | Has any one put it through a work out yet . Just picked up a pg at the thorn bros spring sale. It seems small compared to the 400 TE or The 400D . If this reel holds up like the rest of my shimano reels I can see my self buying a few more of these reels. My boat is still in storage so not able to put it on a rod yet but first impression of this reel its going to be one that's in my hands a lot this year |
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Location: MN | What size did you get? The 400 didn't catch me as small compared to my 400d. 300 is small and I really liked that so that's what I got. |
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Location: Minnesota | I bought the 400 PG |
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Location: Not far enough north! | Got a 401A in hand finally. Loaded it up with 80lb master braid and Took it down to the pond with a spanky double 10 just to see how it felt. First impressions; this is a super smooth reel. Feels better than my 301D. Feels good in the hand too. It's a little narrower than a revo toro 61. It casted really well (wind was howling at my back though) far easier than the avet I had on that rod. I wouldn't say the dub 10 was effortless to retrieve but I was cranking about as fast as I could and it was definitely not too bad. Bait was moving pretty good almost at full burn. Would have liked to have had more depth to work with to slow it down but didn't. I did catch about a 2lb bass on the third cast so that was nice.
I have a HG coming too but is on back order or something. Will probably switch handles on them or get another power handle. I'll let you know how that one feels when it comes in. |
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