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| So I ordered a Revo Toro S from big major retailers this week as a Christmas gift for myself..get package today open up and low and behold there are not 1 but 2 new Revo Toro S...what do you do looked at recipt only charged for 1...so is it Merry Christmas or should I send back?? |
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| first,,what's the name of the place you ordered from!!! |
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Location: US | I'll give you $25 for it lol |
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| Legally anything you receive in the mail you can keep,,,lawyers am I right?????? |
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Location: Ashland WI | I think you gain much more in the long run by calling them and letting them know what happened. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Karma is delivering this gift because of some time in the past he lost out on something. It would be a slap in Karma's face to return it.
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| I agree on Karma. That could have been somebody else's reel, the store will lose money, employee might have made a simple mistake that will cost him/her? I had this happen with a Simms Clothing order from a Fly Shop online awhile back. They accidentally sent me another $200 worth of clothing I didn't order and wasn't charged. As tempting as it was I called the shop, notified them of the mistake and told them I'm going to return it. They were shocked I called and honest because they somehow had no record of the mistake. They even offered me to keep the clothing at no charge. Instead I sent it back. A week later they sent me a $100 gift card in the mail thanking me for doing the right thing. That summer I decided to give the gift card to the next kid I saw fishing (excluding my kids). I didn't need the clothing or gift card, nor did my kids and decided to give it to some kid who could use it. If you keep the 2nd reel I get it....Maybe you deserve it? If you decide to not return it, give it to a kid or a fellow Muskie guy that could really use it. Or maybe "your" luck has changed and you need it? It's your call...but as Woodieb said "what goes around comes around." I totally agree! Karma is real! Nothing is more rewarding than doing the right thing and this is not me being "high and mighty". I've been on both sides and far from perfect. Heck, maybe call them. They might let you keep it? They might be so appreciative of your honesty that they won't forget you in the future? Who knows? Just all opinions...no judging. You'll know what the right thing to do is...go with your heart. |
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| I think it's good karma I do lot if good deeds just because and I got screwed on auction yesterday on ebay I bid with 20 sec left thought it took my bid I put in above winning amount and I didn't get supposedly bid never went through |
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| And trust me place this came from it wrong hurt them at all probably biggest online retailer there is stupid huge not costing them or any employee anything how they gonna know employee sent two unless I contact them now if they contacted me and asked different story completely |
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Location: NorthCentral WI | Flambeauski - 12/22/2016 10:37 AM
Karma is delivering this gift because of some time in the past he lost out on something. It would be a slap in Karma's face to return it.
Sell the reel and donate the funds to an animal shelter.
Agree with this except the part about selling it... Lucky you, nice score! |
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Location: Ashland WI | 25homes - 12/22/2016 11:07 AM
And trust me place this came from it wrong hurt them at all probably biggest online retailer there is stupid huge not costing them or any employee anything how they gonna know employee sent two unless I contact them now if they contacted me and asked different story completely
Sounds like you already made your mind up and are finding ways to justify.
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Merry Christmas. Time to buy a new rod. I don't know why you would even come on here with that lol.. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | 14ledo81 - 12/22/2016 10:45 AM
I think you gain much more in the long run by calling them and letting them know what happened.
Gain what? A sense or moral pride? We are American. Not one of us is morally correct. I see your point maybe if you were teaching it to a child. |
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Location: Madtown, WI | Top FAQ on the FTC website. Dude, it's yours. Unless it came from a small online retailer like MTO, I would have no guilt keeping it.
https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0181-unordered-merchandise |
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Location: Alex or Alek? | I have a friend that this has happened to on amazon, not just once, and they weren't cheap items, projector, tile saw, just to name a few. It it were me, go buy a new rod and on the way to the store buy a lotto ticket as well. You're not going to gain anything by calling the store besides a pat on the back. |
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Location: Cedarburg, WI. | A whole post about ethics. Musky guys are deep. Love it |
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Location: Minnesota. | detroithardcore - 12/22/2016 10:51 AM
I agree on Karma. That could have been somebody else's reel, the store will lose money, employee might have made a simple mistake that will cost him/her? I had this happen with a Simms Clothing order from a Fly Shop online awhile back. They accidentally sent me another $200 worth of clothing I didn't order and wasn't charged. As tempting as it was I called the shop, notified them of the mistake and told them I'm going to return it. They were shocked I called and honest because they somehow had no record of the mistake. They even offered me to keep the clothing at no charge. Instead I sent it back. A week later they sent me a $100 gift card in the mail thanking me for doing the right thing. That summer I decided to give the gift card to the next kid I saw fishing (excluding my kids). I didn't need the clothing or gift card, nor did my kids and decided to give it to some kid who could use it. If you keep the 2nd reel I get it....Maybe you deserve it? If you decide to not return it, give it to a kid or a fellow Muskie guy that could really use it. Or maybe "your" luck has changed and you need it? It's your call...but as Woodieb said "what goes around comes around." I totally agree! Karma is real! Nothing is more rewarding than doing the right thing and this is not me being "high and mighty". I've been on both sides and far from perfect. Heck, maybe call them. They might let you keep it? They might be so appreciative of your honesty that they won't forget you in the future? Who knows? Just all opinions...no judging. You'll know what the right thing to do is...go with your heart.
Scott, this was a fine post man!
I'd send her back if it were me. Been there when I got to a bank and a gal before me left without picking up an envelope full of cash at a drive-in. I looked at it, all $20's...lots. I was 29 at the time and just married.
Send it back! |
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| There a difference between what's legally allowed (keeping it) and what's ethically proper.
Sheesh, the suggestion that Americans are amoral is ridiculous. The reason we teach kids lessons about ethical behavior is so that they live that way as adults. When people are rioting and breaking into stores to steal stuff everyone jumps to point the finger at them as criminals with no moral compass. But when something shows up in our mail from that same store, it's suddenly "big store, won't hurt them, Merry Christmas, etc."?
At a minimum I'd call them and ask what they'd like to do: return it at their cost or allow me to keep it. If they told me to keep it, I'd do that and sleep good at night. Otherwise I'd feel like a thief. If you paid for it, it's yours; if you didn't...
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Location: Smith Creek | I posed a similar question in The Basement when the ATM spit out an extra 20.
Someone posted that I should donate said 20 to our nearest animal shelter, I did, and feel terrific about my decision.
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| Flambeauski - 12/22/2016 1:29 PM
I posed a similar question in The Basement when the ATM spit out an extra 20.
Someone posted that I should donate said 20 to our nearest animal shelter, I did, and feel terrific about my decision.
Your not by chance sportin green tights and a funny hat are ya? |
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Location: mercer wi | Contact the store. This has happened to me before. They told me to keep the extra item for my inconvenience. Leave it up to them. |
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Location: Ashland WI | JakeStCroixSkis - 12/22/2016 11:36 AM
14ledo81 - 12/22/2016 10:45 AM
I think you gain much more in the long run by calling them and letting them know what happened.
Gain what? A sense or moral pride? We are American. Not one of us is morally correct. I see your point maybe if you were teaching it to a child.
Sure. Gain a good feeling that you did the "right thing". Gain being able to sleep freely at nights. Gain not having to go back later to the store when you still feel bad about keeping it.
I do think you are correct that none of us are morally correct. There was only one perfect person to ever set foot on this earth and we are going to celebrate his birth in a few days.
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Location: St. Lawrence River | 14ledo81 - 12/22/2016 3:33 PM
JakeStCroixSkis - 12/22/2016 11:36 AM
14ledo81 - 12/22/2016 10:45 AM
I think you gain much more in the long run by calling them and letting them know what happened.
Gain what? A sense or moral pride? We are American. Not one of us is morally correct. I see your point maybe if you were teaching it to a child.
Sure. Gain a good feeling that you did the "right thing". Gain being able to sleep freely at nights. Gain not having to go back later to the store when you still feel bad about keeping it.
I do think you are correct that none of us are morally correct. There was only one perfect person to ever set foot on this earth and we are going to celebrate his birth in a few days.
On a lighter note, I believe the muskie gods frown on people using "stolen" items.....
Amen, friend.
But I spoke to a musky god in a dream once. I asked him to show me the way. He told me nice guys finish last.
Also I certainly don't consider that reel stolen. Just a lucky break. He didn't tuck it into his underwear and strut out of the store. It's not a deal I would feel right or wrong about.. It just fell out of the sky, so to speak.
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| Swooping in on your buddies figure 8=stealing
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| Jeremy - 12/22/2016 1:25 PM
detroithardcore - 12/22/2016 10:51 AM
I agree on Karma. That could have been somebody else's reel, the store will lose money, employee might have made a simple mistake that will cost him/her? I had this happen with a Simms Clothing order from a Fly Shop online awhile back. They accidentally sent me another $200 worth of clothing I didn't order and wasn't charged. As tempting as it was I called the shop, notified them of the mistake and told them I'm going to return it. They were shocked I called and honest because they somehow had no record of the mistake. They even offered me to keep the clothing at no charge. Instead I sent it back. A week later they sent me a $100 gift card in the mail thanking me for doing the right thing. That summer I decided to give the gift card to the next kid I saw fishing (excluding my kids). I didn't need the clothing or gift card, nor did my kids and decided to give it to some kid who could use it. If you keep the 2nd reel I get it....Maybe you deserve it? If you decide to not return it, give it to a kid or a fellow Muskie guy that could really use it. Or maybe "your" luck has changed and you need it? It's your call...but as Woodieb said "what goes around comes around." I totally agree! Karma is real! Nothing is more rewarding than doing the right thing and this is not me being "high and mighty". I've been on both sides and far from perfect. Heck, maybe call them. They might let you keep it? They might be so appreciative of your honesty that they won't forget you in the future? Who knows? Just all opinions...no judging. You'll know what the right thing to do is...go with your heart.
Scott, this was a fine post man!
I'd send her back if it were me. Been there when I got to a bank and a gal before me left without picking up an envelope full of cash at a drive-in. I looked at it, all $20's...lots. I was 29 at the time and just married.
Send it back!
thats totally different that is someones hard earned cash who which you saw left and made mistake that could have ruin a lot for that person...My motyher ordered expensive TV stand off amazon accidentally went to neighbor she called said I have not recieved they sent another new one it came she realized what happen by neighbor asking if swhe ordered....she then called amazon explained what happen they said thanks for calling but just keep it not worth hassle of having you send back and us refund shipping cost.... |
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Location: Alex or Alek? | IDK why people are saying they'd feel like a thief, he didn't steal anything, they sent it to you. You didn't walk into the store and putting a reel in your pants and walk out.
When you go and buy crappie minnows and they accidentally give you a couple shiners do you bring the shiners back to the store? Or when you buy a dozen minnows and they give you 15 do you give 3 back? |
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| IDK why people are saying they'd feel like a thief, he didn't steal anything, they sent it to you. You didn't walk into the store and putting a reel in your pants and walk out.
So let's say you accidentally overpay the store for something you buy. Give them an extra $20 bill, or put an extra "0" at the end of the amount on the check. The store notices that they were overpaid, but says, "Ha! Merry Christmas to us!" and keeps the money.
You good with that too? I mean, it's not like they took the money out of your pocket. You GAVE it to them. Your fault, too bad, so sad.
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | ARmuskyaddict - 12/23/2016 11:03 AM
If you have to debate what is moral and ethical, don't complain about someone giving you the shaft ever again.
Glaucus_ - 12/23/2016 11:47 AM
So let's say you accidentally overpay the store for something you buy. Give them an extra $20 bill, or put an extra "0" at the end of the amount on the check. The store notices that they were overpaid, but says, "Ha! Merry Christmas to us!" and keeps the money.
You good with that too? I mean, it's not like they took the money out of your pocket. You GAVE it to them. Your fault, too bad, so sad.
What these guys said. Be ready to have it go both ways.
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Location: Ashland WI | On a related note.
It seems most every employee would be for profit sharing, but how many would be for deficit sharing? |
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Location: oswego, il | I had a fishing company send me extra once, i contacted and they said dont worry about it.
How would a store determine who overpaid unless the cashier noticed it during the transaction?
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| Glaucus_ - 12/23/2016 11:47 AM
IDK why people are saying they'd feel like a thief, he didn't steal anything, they sent it to you. You didn't walk into the store and putting a reel in your pants and walk out.
So let's say you accidentally overpay the store for something you buy. Give them an extra $20 bill, or put an extra "0" at the end of the amount on the check. The store notices that they were overpaid, but says, "Ha! Merry Christmas to us!" and keeps the money.
You good with that too? I mean, it's not like they took the money out of your pocket. You GAVE it to them. Your fault, too bad, so sad.
my mistake then my duty to catch...trust me if I put xtra 0 on check you still have to write out amount to match and on top that I think If I add extra 0 and I pay $3000 instead of $300 I would probably catch that mistake real quick when it cleared my account and would by my job to go fix the mistake even though check would never go through if written amount didnt match number and if number was $3000 and you wrote $300 I think they know were the mistake took place I cant even believe half of the comparisions we got here like the cash envelope at the bank aapplea and oranges if that close |
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Location: Clintonville, WI | ALWAYS.......do the right thing.
There are lots of things we can do that we shouldn't and lots of things we don't have to do that we should. Take it from someone who has done the opposite of both. (*** any more than 1% saying that they have not done the same as me are delusional, lying or trying to get a rise out of people on the internet).
Call the store and retailer and let them know what happened. See where it goes from there. Period.
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| When I worked for a multi state bank in the 1990s, they had a hard and fast rule: If a teller had a shortage of X dollars in their first 180 days, they were terminated. We had a teller in this situation, gave too much to a customer. Using video tape from the drive up window, we were 99.9% sure who got the money. Can even see his eye brows shoot up when he counts his cash. Looks like he got hit with a thousand volts. However, when contacted, he said no, he got the right amount. As a result the teller was fired. I really hope karma jumped up and bit the guy in the butt when it hurt him the most. |
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Location: oswego, il | Jeff78 - 12/23/2016 6:09 PM
Well, I've sure learned on this thread who I would deal with on the BST forum.
Says the guy who sells bucktails for 100$ |
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| Personally I would call the business. Whether it's a cashier handing me back an extra quarter or a bank teller handing me an extra $800 (which has happened), for me it's worth it just to see the look of shock on their face when someone does actually do the right thing. If you have to ask, or justify, you most likely know what the right answer is already. |
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| ToddM - 12/23/2016 9:29 PM
Jeff78 - 12/23/2016 6:09 PM
Well, I've sure learned on this thread who I would deal with on the BST forum.
Says the guy who sells bucktails for 100$ : )
If someone can sell bucktails for $100, all I want to know is if he needs any investors. |
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Location: Ashland WI | horsehunter - 12/24/2016 9:09 AM
Don't really know why this question needs to be asked. If you don't know the answer the opinions of others won't help. Each person must live with their own conscience.
I think the answer was known before the question was asked. (It's not right to keep)
I think the OP was looking for people to say it's fine if it was kept that way he could feel good about it if he chooses to keep it. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Glaucus_ - 12/23/2016 12:47 PM
IDK why people are saying they'd feel like a thief, he didn't steal anything, they sent it to you. You didn't walk into the store and putting a reel in your pants and walk out.
So let's say you accidentally overpay the store for something you buy. Give them an extra $20 bill, or put an extra "0" at the end of the amount on the check. The store notices that they were overpaid, but says, "Ha! Merry Christmas to us!" and keeps the money.
You good with that too? I mean, it's not like they took the money out of your pocket. You GAVE it to them. Your fault, too bad, so sad.
Yeah, YOU F'd up, and your an idiot, in this situation. It is now up to YOU to fix the situation that YOU put yourself in. They are not obligated to make it right for you, and shouldn't be. Why do we expect that when you make an error in life it SHOULD be fixed by somebody ELSE? Wrong. Life's not fair!!!!!!
Forget that karma crap are you kidding me? Get real.
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| Alright, do what some of the other fellows said and buy a rod for your new acquired reel. Than fish with both of the reels, but put a piece of tape on the side of the new mistakenly shipped new reel. I will bet you will lose the biggest fish you ever had on the reel you identified as the mistaken free one. If you only had the one you rightfully paid for you would have caught the fish. Life has a way of working like that. Ponder this before you do anything. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | dh buc - 12/24/2016 5:18 PM
Alright, do what some of the other fellows said and buy a rod for your new acquired reel. Than fish with both of the reels, but put a piece of tape on the side of the new mistakenly shipped new reel. I will bet you will lose the biggest fish you ever had on the reel you identified as the mistaken free one. If you only had the one you rightfully paid for you would have caught the fish. Life has a way of working like that. Ponder this before you do anything.
Are you gonna put milk and cookies out tonight, too? OH BOY! Magic. Lol murry christmus :p :p
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| dh buc - 12/24/2016 5:18 PM
Alright, do what some of the other fellows said and buy a rod for your new acquired reel. Than fish with both of the reels, but put a piece of tape on the side of the new mistakenly shipped new reel. I will bet you will lose the biggest fish you ever had on the reel you identified as the mistaken free one. If you only had the one you rightfully paid for you would have caught the fish. Life has a way of working like that. Ponder this before you do anything.
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| dh buc - 12/24/2016 4:18 PM
Alright, do what some of the other fellows said and buy a rod for your new acquired reel. Than fish with both of the reels, but put a piece of tape on the side of the new mistakenly shipped new reel. I will bet you will lose the biggest fish you ever had on the reel you identified as the mistaken free one. If you only had the one you rightfully paid for you would have caught the fish. Life has a way of working like that. Ponder this before you do anything.
If I keep that reel I will do exactly like u stated.....Reels sitting in the box on table other one is on rod and been fished...unfortunately I don't think that reel or any other reel is gonna have anything to do with me losing fish big or small unless it fails mechanically...and you wouldn't never know any ways cause if you didn't get the reel and keep you would never have that rod you were fishing with that reel so couldn't hook the biggest fish ever to lose... |
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| I guess I should have kept the box that blew out of the boat in front of us this summer instead of grabbing it and emailing the guy on facebook and then flagging them down. Those rare high dollar baits and all the cash in his wallet would have bought me a couple new Ss.... There is no You kiddo, it's You and those you are in relationships with. What we are saying is by making a selfish choice for YOU, you are not considering how this, and subsequent actions, may affect you and others. Merry Christmas, I guess. |
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We've all done stuff that we looked at later on and thought "that wasn't right..." Better off to do the right thing.
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Location: Tomahawk,Wis | Hey 25
We the Musky Nutz are looking for donations for our June outing... just adding more to your mix.... |
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| I received the wrong item from Dell once and after calling and emailing them I ended up being able to keep the piece and ended up with 2 of the correct thing. I couldn't get through to them that I wanted to return the wrong items. Sold them on ebay. I tried to get them to take them back but gave up after a while. Outsourced customer service was my friend at that point. |
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| wallygator - 12/26/2016 7:04 AM
Hey 25
We the Musky Nutz are looking for donations for our June outing... just adding more to your mix....
Please tell me what I have to do to donate to you guys more than happy to donate to musky fishing USA anytime to help the sport...Wont be donating reels or Rods but would be more than happy to donate to the cause...What do you need for donations? Lures, Line, fishing appareal boots shirts pants Money Im good with whatever just let me know if there is a website or how I go about doing this...can I join Musky Nutz??
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