Trolling setups
tolle141
Posted 11/27/2016 10:22 AM (#837441)
Subject: Trolling setups





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Hi Everyone,

Thinking I'll be spending a lot more time trolling next year. Would appreciate the input of people who do a lot of this. Specifically:

Holders/Rail systems
Rod/Reel combos

Anything else you feel pertinent. Literally starting from scratch. If it matters, I'll be fishing TC metro and northern MN.

Thanks!

Ben T
muskihntr
Posted 11/27/2016 10:32 AM (#837442 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups




Posts: 2037


Location: lansing, il
Traxstech adapter plates with Downeast Rod holders or their single rod tubes for planer boards on a Traxstech Track system. Do yourself a favor and buy the longest tracks you can afford and will fit your boat to give you as much versatility as you will ever need.
Shimano TDR Rods, good rods and very reasonably priced.
Okuma Convector 30D Linecounter reels Tough durable reels, price wont kill ya and they will last you a long time.
horsehunter
Posted 11/27/2016 11:04 AM (#837449 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups




Location: Eastern Ontario
I agree with the tracks but would have two rails about 14 or 16 inches long and 6 inches high made with 2 Downeaster rail mounts on each. This gives you the flexibility to run your rod tips in the water to collect floating weeds or tilt them quickly higher when going over a shallow hump with out having to adjust the angle of Downeaster which can be a bit of a pain when running multiple rods. These rails to fit the tracks can be built by any fabricating shop that works with stainless.
Wood_Duck
Posted 11/27/2016 11:52 AM (#837450 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups





Posts: 555


Location: Tennessee
I use 8' Ugly Stik Big Waters with 6000 series Abu Line counters, 100lb spiderwire, with 6' multi strand wire leaders to combat the zebra muscles. For holders I like my Folbes
muskihntr
Posted 11/27/2016 2:42 PM (#837461 - in reply to #837449)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups




Posts: 2037


Location: lansing, il
horsehunter - 11/27/2016 11:04 AM

I agree with the tracks but would have two rails about 14 or 16 inches long and 6 inches high made with 2 Downeaster rail mounts on each. This gives you the flexibility to run your rod tips in the water to collect floating weeds or tilt them quickly higher when going over a shallow hump with out having to adjust the angle of Downeaster which can be a bit of a pain when running multiple rods. These rails to fit the tracks can be built by any fabricating shop that works with stainless.


If you buy the tracks you dont need to mess with rails. The ALT4 mount is designed to be able to adjust your rods any direction you want without loosening the holder itself.
http://shop.traxstech.com/ALT-4-4-tall-adj-arm-with-lift-turn-base-...
horsehunter
Posted 11/27/2016 3:17 PM (#837464 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups




Location: Eastern Ontario
I'll stay with rails on tracks. Adjustment is instantaneous just push up or down on rod butt. For planer boards I use tube style rod holders in the tracks
anzomcik
Posted 11/27/2016 4:53 PM (#837470 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups





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Track is the way to go. I use the holders in the video links below

https://www.facebook.com/1408060812786869/videos/1784404091819204/

https://www.facebook.com/1408060812786869/videos/1791357651123848/
Jeff Hanson
Posted 11/27/2016 5:28 PM (#837472 - in reply to #837442)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups




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muskihntr - 11/27/2016 10:32 AM

Traxstech adapter plates with Downeast Rod holders or their single rod tubes for planer boards on a Traxstech Track system. Do yourself a favor and buy the longest tracks you can afford and will fit your boat to give you as much versatility as you will ever need.
Shimano TDR Rods, good rods and very reasonably priced.
Okuma Convector 30D Linecounter reels Tough durable reels, price wont kill ya and they will last you a long time.


^ This is very good advice.....
Shimano Tekotas are great trolling reels also.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com
ToddM
Posted 11/27/2016 6:10 PM (#837476 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups





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Location: oswego, il
Cheap heavy catfish rod, okuma convector as stated above. I prefer scotty rod holders, much easier to use, plenty of searchable information on this site for trolling setups, rod holder debate will go on forever.
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 11/27/2016 11:45 PM (#837497 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups





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Location: St. Lawrence River
Pretty much a repeat here, shimano tdr rods, Shakespeare tiger rods, 6500 line counters, I would rather have Folbe rod holders then my rail mount down east salty dogs. They seem much easier to use. Keep your rod tips in the water it'll keep a lot of crap off your baits.
tolle141
Posted 11/28/2016 7:45 AM (#837504 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups





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Any recommendations on length/specs of the TDR rods? Those things are incredibly reasonable!

Thanks everyone for the recommendations!
ToddM
Posted 11/28/2016 8:56 AM (#837513 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups





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Location: oswego, il
I went to longer rods for trolling but am using shorter rods now. 7'. Reason being the longer the trolling rod the more the angler has to back up all the way up to the front deck with a 9ft rod which is a pain if there is stuff on the deck, wavy and maybe the angler isnt super graceful.
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 11/28/2016 10:02 AM (#837520 - in reply to #837504)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups





Posts: 1425


Location: St. Lawrence River
tolle141 - 11/28/2016 8:45 AM

Any recommendations on length/specs of the TDR rods? Those things are incredibly reasonable!

Thanks everyone for the recommendations!


8' H
NathanH
Posted 11/28/2016 11:18 AM (#837524 - in reply to #837520)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups





Posts: 859


Location: MN
I am using 8ft as well. Todd makes a great point about rod length. 8 foot has been ok for me. but I keep a really open and clean boat so walking around isn't an issue.
39 degrees
Posted 11/28/2016 11:58 AM (#837526 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups




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I have a heavy TDR and it is fine for smaller baits. But it uses all of its bend with 14 inch Jake's and Headlocks. Therefore it has no shock absorber when a fish hits. For all trolling applications I now use a inexpensive heavy catfish rod and a Thorne brother's trolling rod. Plenty of shock absorbency left while trolling the big baits. If you troll a lot of shallow rock, a fiberglass rod is much better as the bait bounces better off the rock with fiberglass. Trolling shallow rock with graphite rods the bait sticks like velcro.
Will Schultz
Posted 11/28/2016 12:16 PM (#837527 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Being able to tilt the rod quickly is very nice to have. I considered installing rails and replacing the tracks I had but really didn't want to deal with the rod holders always on the rails. In a moment of ingenuity I went to the hardware store and bought some nylon washers that fit between the teeth on the Down East. Then I replaced the wing nut with a lock nut. Tightened down you can hardly move the horizontal position by hand but with a rod in the holder and the additional leverage gained from the handle you can move the holder easily.


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coltboy75
Posted 11/28/2016 12:24 PM (#837528 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups




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I installed Traxstech this season and used the Fat AZ Down East Slanted Rod Holders. I love them. Here is the link. http://www.fatazmusky.com/index.html
upnortdave
Posted 11/28/2016 12:47 PM (#837530 - in reply to #837528)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups




Posts: 668


Location: mercer wi
Was wondering same thing. Wife's gettinge a headlocks for christmas. Don't troll much but was looking at a black river trolling/sucker rod. Not sure on reels, maybe accudepth or convector.
Cloud7
Posted 11/28/2016 1:04 PM (#837532 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups





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Location: St Paul, Minnesota
I run a St. Croix Premier Glass Musky Rod 8' Heavy Moderate Action (PGM80HM) paired with a Shimano Tekota 500LC. It is a perfect combo and also has the backbone and toughness to double as my trusty sucker rod for trolling or soaking suckers on the coldest of days. I strongly recommend this setup.

If you aren't trolling headlocks and bigger cranks you could get buy with the Shimano TDR as a cheap trolling rod if it allows you to afford the Tekota, but if you can't troll big you could be missing out, so I wouldn't plan on the TDR being your primary trolling rod for too long, though it is a solid value downsizer rod.

-C7
horsehunter
Posted 3/13/2017 10:03 PM (#853285 - in reply to #837527)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups




Location: Eastern Ontario
Will Schultz - 11/28/2016 1:16 PM

Being able to tilt the rod quickly is very nice to have. I considered installing rails and replacing the tracks I had but really didn't want to deal with the rod holders always on the rails. In a moment of ingenuity I went to the hardware store and bought some nylon washers that fit between the teeth on the Down East. Then I replaced the wing nut with a lock nut. Tightened down you can hardly move the horizontal position by hand but with a rod in the holder and the additional leverage gained from the handle you can move the holder easily.



Finally got around to doing this best tip I've had since Northern Dancer in the 1964 Kentucky Derby
jeroen
Posted 3/30/2017 12:47 AM (#855401 - in reply to #837441)
Subject: Re: Trolling setups




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In my humble opinion the CTS baycaster blanks are as good as it gets