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| Having problems with blow outs on trailer tires. When returning from Cass Lake on July 5th I had a blow out on a new tire(less then 3000 miles). I had only gone about 60 miles. I changed the tire and had another blow out about 300 miles down the road. Last year I had a blow out when returning from Canada. The tires are rated for 1760#. I have a Lund 1800 Pro-v with a Honda 90 plus some equipment, but I don't think the rig was over loaded. It's a single axle trailer so if both tires are rated for 1760 I should be able to load 3520# right? Any ideas on the cause of the problem? One tire was new and the other two were 3 years old with low miles. |
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Location: Athens, Ohio | what brand are you running? m |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | many times underinflation is the culprit. look at the tire sidewall and be sure the tire is inflated to the recommended pressure, usually about 50#. |
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| The brand is Carlisle. I check the pressure before each trip and 50# is the pressure they were at when the trip started. In fact i had to let a little air out. |
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| As Steve said "tire pressure".
I have just a small boat/motor and almost never carry equipment in it. I was running my tires with a little less pressure to get the tires to wear more evenly. Found out from my mechanic that they should still be run up near max pressure even with a lighter load. I was told the tire will ride better, wear better and retain less heat with the higher pressure. My Carlisle tires showed 60psi. May want to double check yours.
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Location: oswego, il | I would get a quality tire too. I had a set of "off brand" tires on my old trailer and they started to wear really oddly. Get a set of goodyears, bf goodrich or michelins on them. The best three on the market. Steer clear of firestone, had 4 sets, replaced them all prematurely. |
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Location: Oshawa, Ontario | I went thru two sets of Carlisles in four years and do not do a great deal of towing - six tourny's in the spring/early summer, the farthest being a six hour drive one way, and the "usual" amount for the balance of the year - weekend drives several times usually about two-three hours one way. I will not run Carlisles again found them to wear very unevenly and prematurely. Presently I have Goodyear Trailmasters and they look better in the early going.
Good topic. |
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| Talked to the Product Service Tech at Carlisle. He suggested that I need to move the trailer more often. Says steel belted radials develope a flat spot if the sit in the same postion to long. Since they are steel belted the steel forms a "memory". He also said that Goodyear made the tire for them. |
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| Good point Pepper...
There are only about 2 or 3 tire makers out there. No matter what the tire says, they are made by one of the biggies.
I've had my Carlisles for 3 years now and except for a puncture flat, no problems. One is wearing a little more than the other though. And, cost was a lot less for the off brand. I don't tow much weight though and almost never carry any equipment in the boat itself.
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | One of my friends was running Carlisles last year and lost 3 tires that I can recall in a very short time. All were virtually new. If you do a search on one of the walleye boards you will find this is common with these crappy tires. They are only rated for 65mph. The ones I know of that blew up did so over 65mph. Everyone I know that runs Goodyear Marathons does not have this problem, even at speeds exceeding 65mph. |
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| I rec'd my new tire from Carlisle. They replaced the one still under warranty. I'll have for a spare and hope it never touches the ground. |
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Location: Eden Prairie & Pine Island | I live in the Twin Cities...where is a good place to buy a spare? |
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| I have two brand new 225R75/15 radials. I'll give you a good deal on |
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Location: MN | GMan - Fleet Farm/Farm and Fleet - you know the name - they will have your tires!
Edited by Tahoe 7/19/2003 7:49 PM
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Location: Eden Prairie & Pine Island | Thanks, Pepper, but the shipping from CR to Mnpls probably makes it cost prohibitive. |
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Location: On the Niagara River in Buffalo, NY | All Listen to Steve W.,He is a "Trailer Tire Changing Specialist"!!!
Capt. Larry |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Capt. Larry, you have that one right! What a nightmare that was. According to the trailer builder, I had three of a batch of bad tires they had shipped, but were unable to identify who got them. Guess that would have been me, at least for those three tires. Is work leaving you ANY time to fish yet? Heard through the grapevine you were talking to a few of the PMTT boys out your way a few weeks ago, great group. Drop an email my way when you get a chance, [email protected] |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | I know this post is a little dated but will say this, I bought Goodyear radial trailer tires about 5 or 6 years ago. The boat and trailer sit on concrete a majority of the year. No flat spots, No blow outs. Only time they went flat the little neighbor A....le sorry I mean kid.. took the valve stems out. Even if carlisle's are made by goodyear I will still reccomend goodyear over them. Not positive on this one but I thought ALL trailer tires were rated for only 65mph or less, many I've seen have even been rated for 45mph or less. |
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Location: Mokena, IL | Guys,
Just had a blowout and found the other tire to be going as well. They are a brand called Nanco, never heard of them before. The trailer manuafacturer, yacht club, is replacing them with carlisle free of charge. I just bought the boat and trailer in december. Should I be happy with the replacement or get them to do something else?
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| I have a Carlisle as a spare and that is the only way I would ever use them again and then ony because I have one left that hasn't blown out(yet). I went with Good Year Marathons. I don't know how they will turn out but the trailer I had prior to this one had Good Year car tires on them for 4 or 5 years and never had a problem. They are still running up and down the highway. I sold that trailer to a friend and he has put several thousand miles on the no problem |
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| Goodyear actually made tires for carlisle for 2001 and part of 2002. They now make all their own tires. I spoke with the head of customer service about this. I blew two carlisles out in two months. I called him and he sent me two new tires balanced with rims. The carlisles I had that blew out on me were actually dunlaps(division of goodyear) If your running 205's try the 215's they are beefier tires. Good luck, Matt |
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Location: Mokena, IL | I think I am running 185's |
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| Hey! Am wondering what part of the tire blew out? Normally underinflation is the culprit. And inflating the tire to spec doesn't guarantee the tire will hold the air until it is checked the next time!
Radial tires have a wires running through the sidewall from the bead to the shoulder of the tire. If even slightly underinflated, the tire's sidewall will bulge at the point where the rubber meets the road.
Now imagine what that wire strand does as it rotates along and flexes every revolution. Flexed enough it will break! In tireman's language it will "zipper" open and blow the sidewall out.
As an extra, no tires are impermeable, that is to say, they all will leak air. And some more than others so check them often and you will learn more about your tires! |
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Location: Mokena, IL | Actually, I was told that the tires had dry rot and that caused the tire to basically come apart. A section about 4 inches by 6 inches of rubber tread completely came off. ANd I also noticed about 6 dime sized slits in between the tread of both tires. They said the tires were made over 4 years ago even though I just bought the boat and trailer last December. |
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The ultra violet rays from the sun can break down a tire. If the trailer is parked for long periods of time, you will notice the tires on the sun-side beginning to dry-rot. Also, if the tire is low on air, it will begin to rot at the creases created by the squatting tire.
So, if you are a part-time user of a trailer, keep them tires shaded and full of air.
Course, you can always buy new ones instead! |
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| Good advice, check the tire pressure weekly whether you take a trip or not and keep those tires out of the sunlight. I have seen RV owners cover their tires before when they sit for extended periods. I would start with a quality tire though. I must admit Carlisle did send me a new tire to replace the one that was less then a year old when it when blewout. The other one that exploded was over a year old and not covered by warranty. They did not split out the side walls,the tread separated from the tire and wrapped around the axle. Removing it was about as much fun as changing the thing as semi-trucks went by at 75mph. |
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| Hmmmm, sounds like the same problem the recalled Firestone ATX tires had. In that case the tires were "cheapened up" by not adding the protective layer between the steel belts and the inner liner causing the tire to heat up and thus seperating at the tread.
But low tire pressure can also cause this heat build-up and separation so I am not accusing any company of this fraud!  |
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