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| Who has or does use this reel? Have been eying it for awhile hoping it will go on sale. I got an inside track that it might just go on sale before too long so I wanna get some input on this thing before I drop that type of change on a reel..Have the winch like it but wish had more line capacity this is why I am so interested in the beast. Have a big game reel I Like but really like the look and feel of the beast but have never actually fished it wanted to hear from those who have and do...
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| I have three and love them. Crazy smooth, great casting, and great drag. |
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| Thanks I appreciated....#*^@ 3 take me awhile to get to 3 of them...Forgot to look what is the drag rated at? I couldnt believe the winch was 24lbs unreal |
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| I think the Beast is 25 lb. I use the 60HS for blades, topwaters, and gliders, and the 60 for bigger/slower blades and cranks. |
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| Meh.. there fine. I'm a little disappointed they don't pick up line a little faster. It isn't the first reel I pick up to use, which for the $$ leaves me underwhelmed. |
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| I have a 50 4.9 and it pulls in tens so easy I can't feel it. Makes me go faster to feel them.
I have a 60 in hs is nice I use it for #9's and less/ crankbaits
And I have beast rocket. It will pull baits in so fast and honestly I fished it most of the day with 9's and it was ok. I love the whole line up but I must admit I like Abu a lot. I have Nacl's that I like the feel in my hand better but the beasts are better.
If you have a winch a 60 size 4.9 gear will retrieve lures faster but like me you will feel it's slower cause there is no resistance. |
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Location: Smith Creek | I like it a lot. Wish it didn't have a disengaging level wind but that's my only complaint. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Flambeauski - 10/18/2016 4:01 PM
I like it a lot. Wish it didn't have a disengaging level wind but that's my only complaint.
I prefer it with the DLW. I can cast farther and more effortlessly. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Buliwyf - 10/18/2016 2:53 PM
Meh.. there fine. I'm a little disappointed they don't pick up line a little faster. It isn't the first reel I pick up to use, which for the $$ leaves me underwhelmed.
If you want faster line pick up (you should have known exactly what the IPT was) look at the Revo Toro Rocket; match the tool to the chore....
I have several Beast models, the Rocket, several S 60s, and a MaxToro. Great reels.
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Location: Ontario | Got four Beasts, 2 regular 2 HS - LOVE THEM !
Now ABU can we PLEASE finally get lefty Rocket? |
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| I am new to the sport and don't have much to compare it too but bought a revo toro S 61 model and liked it so much I bought another one last year. This year after finally having some success I dropped some coin and bought a beast HS 61. I really like the beast but to be completely honest I love the toro S with the jigging handle from the beast the best. I can pull 10's like they are not even there and larger cranks too. It also burns 8's effortlessly. The S can be found on Amazon for $189. The 60-61 series holds 150 yards of 80 lb suffix 832 perfectly with minimal backing. Hope that helps you make a decision on some way. |
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Location: mercer wi | I know this is a beast thread but I'm on board with the 60 S. I like my S better then my beasts. Thinking about sell in both beasts I have. |
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| First one I had lasted about three months before it was making grinding noises and screeching. Sent it in, and the reel was replaced without any questions. The new reel started screeching within hours of using it. I take great care of my stuff and was disappointed in the durability of these reels. They are smooth but abu has had problems like this for years and it never seems to change. I have a Toro S that is going on two seasons and still going strong. I should mention I have the high speed beast and only use it for rubber and jerk baits. |
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| upnortdave - 10/18/2016 7:30 PM
I know this is a beast thread but I'm on board with the 60 S. I like my S better then my beasts. Thinking about sell in both beasts I have.
Thats wild..I have a winch seems like the 60 s wouldnt be too far different from the winch or is that not accurate? Also how is line capacity on toro S vs Winch vs Beast...Thats my only complaint on the Winch which I knew going in and dont want two reels that I dont have the capacity I want.
What dont you Like about your Beast? That beast just seems like it would be the ideal musky reel if you dont wanna go round big game which I have already I want to set up my main Musky rod and wanna make sure I get the right reel as this rod will get the most use...
ALso out of the beast which one do you prefer more the Regular 4.9:1 or The HS with the 6.2:1....Im assuming you could use either for Musky in the 60 models? |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I've got the Toro rocket, while it does have fast line pick up, the Tranx is still a far better reel for big stuff... both good reels tho...but the rocket is no tranx. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | BNelson - 10/19/2016 8:54 AM
I've got the Toro rocket, while it does have fast line pick up, the Tranx is still a far better reel for big stuff... both good reels tho...but the rocket is no tranx.
The Toro Rocket is a smaller and lighter high speed reel that lends it's self very well to throwing rubber, and also what we as muskie anglers define as mid-size baits that perform best at high speed or need rapid line pick up between movements like many jerk baits, and is a reel we found to fit quite a few of the techniques we use very well.
The Toro S is the middle of the line between the Beast and MaxToro, and does a nice job meeting most angler's needs in that category. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | agreed, the rocket to me is for small to mid size baits...burns 8s nice, and it's a good inline topwater reel, and small to mid size rubber.... won't pull 10s like a tranx hg, but nothing does...  |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Agreed, would not use the Rocket as a 2X10 reel. |
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| The line capacity will be the same on the 60 beast or the S model. 150 yards of 80lb braid. There is nothing to dislike about the beast. It has a smoother drag and comes with extra handles for different applications. Other than that it seems very comparable to the S model. I too bought the beast to put on my main musky rod like you are thinking about. After a 3 day weekend the S went back on my main rod and the beast went on my rubber rod. So if you throw mainly bulldawgs the HS Beast would probably work best for you. But if you throw a lot of blades and cranks the S or beast 4.9 would be better, imho. |
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| Thanks for the info I appreciate that...I dont throw bullddawgs a ton and Have a seperate rod and reel for those anyways..This gonna be my main all purpose rod throw a lot of big spinner baits, inline spinners, and jerkbaits...Thinking right now about the 60 4.9:1 beast unless something changes my mind... |
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Location: MN | I have a 50 HS. It pulls 10s reasonably well - easily enough where I would never go down to the slower speed. You could save money and get a Toro S or Max Toro with a few less IPT, but I wouldn't pay beast money and not have the ability to do speed. |
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| Do you have a revo winch or a toro winch? Line capacity on a toro 50 should be sufficient for everything except top water and gliders with a strong tail wind. The beast hs or toro s is what I think your looking for in size 60-61 |
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Location: Aurora | BNelson - 10/19/2016 9:16 AM
.... won't pull 10s like a tranx hg, but nothing does... ;)
~ahem~ I ran into captain obvious and his opinion is that the Tranx PG pulls um much easier than the HG. |
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| Fishysam - 10/19/2016 4:22 PM
Do you have a revo winch or a toro winch? Line capacity on a toro 50 should be sufficient for everything except top water and gliders with a strong tail wind. The beast hs or toro s is what I think your looking for in size 60-61
I have the revo Winch right now..
What are you guys thoughts on this levelwind disengaging on beast I don t fully understand this what the difference actually is for me when fishing |
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| You get more distance on your casts. Your line guide disengages on the cast, and re-engages when you reel. Some people like it, some don't, I think the beasts and toro S are plenty narrow to where it's a benefit, I like it. |
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| 25homes - 10/20/2016 8:11 AM
Fishysam - 10/19/2016 4:22 PM
Do you have a revo winch or a toro winch? Line capacity on a toro 50 should be sufficient for everything except top water and gliders with a strong tail wind. The beast hs or toro s is what I think your looking for in size 60-61
I have the revo Winch right now..
What are you guys thoughts on this levelwind disengaging on beast I don t fully understand this what the difference actually is for me when fishing
One thing I do Notice with my revo winch is it does seem like im having to reel so darn fast to keep bait moving at speed I want how will the revo winch compare to the the beast for this? I believe the revo winch is 22inch per and the reg beast is 27 and the HS at 34...not sure if need HS or Not...Im just cranking that winch so fast to keep moving how I want not easy to do for extended period |
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Location: Ashland WI | 25homes - 10/20/2016 8:43 AM
25homes - 10/20/2016 8:11 AM
Fishysam - 10/19/2016 4:22 PM
Do you have a revo winch or a toro winch? Line capacity on a toro 50 should be sufficient for everything except top water and gliders with a strong tail wind. The beast hs or toro s is what I think your looking for in size 60-61
I have the revo Winch right now..
What are you guys thoughts on this levelwind disengaging on beast I don t fully understand this what the difference actually is for me when fishing
One thing I do Notice with my revo winch is it does seem like im having to reel so darn fast to keep bait moving at speed I want how will the revo winch compare to the the beast for this? I believe the revo winch is 22inch per and the reg beast is 27 and the HS at 34...not sure if need HS or Not...Im just cranking that winch so fast to keep moving how I want not easy to do for extended period
I think you answered your question. Either beast will bring line in faster. The speed doesn't come for "free" though. You will feel more resistance as well. |
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| Ok, I have a revo winch and it doesn't compare to any toro reel... A size 50 toro of any model will hold enough line. 60 series holds more and keeps the inches per turn higher/ truer... Get what feel you want for what inches per turn fits you. Like I said I believe a 50 hs beast will serve you the best! |
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| nar160 - 10/19/2016 12:59 PM
I have a 50 HS. It pulls 10s reasonably well - easily enough where I would never go down to the slower speed. You could save money and get a Toro S or Max Toro with a few less IPT, but I wouldn't pay beast money and not have the ability to do speed.
I was thinking the 4.9 but after reading this Im leaning to the 60hs now..The biggest 2 blade I throw is a double showgirl...I would think that the 60HS would handle these no problem without a ton of resistance wouldnt you think? If That is the biggest blade I throw and probably most common which would you prefer the 60 or 60hs |
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| Show girls are easy with the hs, I fished jr cowgirls (bigger blades) with a rocket and that was ok. Even faster. |
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| Fishysam - 10/20/2016 4:10 PM
Show girls are easy with the hs, I fished jr cowgirls (bigger blades) with a rocket and that was ok. Even faster.
Sweet so I should have no issue then I think The HS is the way to go for me since Im not using huge spinners |
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Location: MN | 25homes - 10/20/2016 3:13 PM
nar160 - 10/19/2016 12:59 PM
I have a 50 HS. It pulls 10s reasonably well - easily enough where I would never go down to the slower speed. You could save money and get a Toro S or Max Toro with a few less IPT, but I wouldn't pay beast money and not have the ability to do speed.
I was thinking the 4.9 but after reading this Im leaning to the 60hs now..The biggest 2 blade I throw is a double showgirl...I would think that the 60HS would handle these no problem without a ton of resistance wouldnt you think? If That is the biggest blade I throw and probably most common which would you prefer the 60 or 60hs
I would get the HS if those are the options you're considering. The 4.9 beast 60 is still 27 IPT so not a winch by any means - still a pretty good all around pickup. You have quite a few options in that pickup range though. The Toro S 60 gets 29 IPT and costs quite a bit less for example. The 60 HS is 34 IPT so quite a bit faster, even than my 50 HS. To visualize, here's the IPT of the various Revo Toro models:
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26 Toro, Nacl, Toro S 50, Maxtoro
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29 Toro S 60
31 Toro HS, NaCl HS, Beast 50 HS
34 Beast 60 HS
42 Rocket
I wanted a 50 size real with pickup and a large diameter handle - only option is the Beast 50 HS. If you're looking at 60 size reels, I would consider either the Toro S 60 or the Beast 60 HS. The S is cheaper and more of an all purpose reel, while the beast has extra speed and a few bells and whistles if you care. I think either would be a significant difference for you coming from the winch - much easier to get things going at the end of the cast and easier to burn on the retrieve. |
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| thanks nar150 I agree I think the HS would better suite me and I think it most likely be the beast 60hs BUT who knows maybe the 50hs but prob go 60 |
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Location: Contrarian Island | why would you ever go with a 50 over a 60? only difference in them is the spool width... so at the end of your casts, you are in essence bringing in much less line on a 50 than a 60... to me, I see zero advantage of a 50 over a 60... ?! |
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| BNelson - 10/21/2016 9:09 AM
why would you ever go with a 50 over a 60? only difference in them is the spool width... so at the end of your casts, you are in essence bringing in much less line on a 50 than a 60... to me, I see zero advantage of a 50 over a 60... ?!
Well 1 for sure advantage is comfort for some people... |
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Location: Contrarian Island | how? the side plates are exactly the same size.. the reels are just a bit wider... I could see a 50 for a kid but not for an adult...just my opinion... |
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Location: MN | On the old Toro and NaCl the 60 was just a 50 but wider. After holding both in my hand (NaCls) a few times I went with the 50 size for comfort. Obviously the tradeoff is losing pickup at the end of the cast. I have not tried both head to head to see how substantial that effect is. The comfort difference is noticeable for me however.
On the new ones, that tradeoff is not quite the same. To do the disengaging levelwind, they went with a taller rather than wider spool on the 60. The new 60 vs new 50 has more pickup for a given gear ratio - not quite an apples to apples comparison.
The spool widths are similar (identical?) so the same argument as the NaCl 50 vs 60 doesn't quite apply. The larger diameter of the 60 does mean that a given amount of line removed will reduce it's diameter less - at the end of a cast the 60 will lose less pickup, but how pronounced this effect is compared to previous years I don't know. For example, a Toro S 50 and Beast 60 4.9 pull in about the same at full spool and have nearly the same width spool. The 60 will lose a little less pickup at the end of a cast (the spool diameter is reduced a smaller %) but I'm not sure this effect is as pronounced as the old Toros where the only thing changing was spool width.
In any case, for me the reason for the 50 is the same. I held both and the 50 is more comfortable. The 60 is taller in this case. Not a gigantic difference - If I came across a good deal on a 60 I might have done it instead. If I was out looking again I would probably see if I could borrow or try a 60 HS. |
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| Nailed it^^^^^^, size 50 for specific ipt, and cause I like the 50 nacl more than 6o for how I hold them I don't Palm. But I agree I can't really tell the difference in beast 50-60. Also the 50's are lighter.... And after fishing 28 days straight that matters |
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Location: Shawano, Wi | Be carefully when tightening the reel nut I just sheared mine off and the threads are still in the reel has to go out for warranty work now to get it out and get a new part |
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| Mdamp104 - 10/22/2016 8:49 AM
Be carefully when tightening the reel nut I just sheared mine off and the threads are still in the reel has to go out for warranty work now to get it out and get a new part
Which nut was it? |
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