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Location: Alsip, Il | I am not kidding!!!!!!! My good fishing buddy Matt Collins and I just came back from day outing and we must of raised at least 30 fish from 28 to 45 inches. We managed to catch one 38 incher which hit the first five feet of the cast, but throughout the day we kept taking turns rasing fish. That may follow a figure 8 or large circle for one turn and then lazyly swim off, we tried changing lures for throwbacks but nothing work, any suggestions? This was the most follows I have ever seen in one day. I thought most people were exaggerating when they saw they have seen 20 or more fish in a day, but no more!!!!! God Bless, Al |
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | I WOULD CELEBRATE!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Count your blessings, it sounds like a great day. My wife and I have
had a season similar. Hopefully soon they will start biting.
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Location: Chagrin Falls, Ohio | It's hard to be specific without more info, but you have to make adjustments to get them to commit. Start with slightly different retrieves, then colors, then baits. I start making adjustments as soon as I see a few fish that don't commit. At that point you know that you've gotta do something different as somethings wrong with the presentation. I agree with the speed as noted below. That would usually be the first thing I'd do this time of year. That's still a great day though! Good fishin', Tyler Campbell
Edited by Tyler Campbell 7/3/2003 10:20 AM
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Location: Northern IL | I have to agree "adjustments" have to be made as soon as possible once you know the fish are up and active. (they wouldn't be there is they weren't active) I would say it was more of a speed thing, warm water ='s active fish, and sometimes we can not turn the handles fast enough to trigger a strike, TROLL and do it fast! 6-10mph.,,, you had the depth now trigger the strike. |
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Location: God's Country......USA..... Western Wisconsin | What Jerry said, speed, speed and more speed. Try adding a little scent as well. It surely couldn't hurt. Try to burn that bait in however. Troll if you can, but be sure to add some speed if you are casting. Try Tiger tubes and jigs as well. Try other downsized lures, they may only want desert and not the whole meal. I have had this same problem and can certainly relate. Better to see fish than not............but always way more fun to catch 'em. |
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| I may have your answer! But to be sure I'm on the right track, perhaps you should tell me (private e-mail) where you were fishing..... |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | I have a few guesses as to where you were fishing....gone through the same thing. Once counted 38 follows, and yes, we only managed 2 fish, both in the mid 30s. It's fun, but I've tried all of the above, and really, it's just like being in a "gentleman's club": they'll come up and say hi, get you all worked up, but none will come home with you. If they just want to look, thats all they're gonna do. |
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Location: Washington, PA | I'd throw em a top water, and I'll second that with the speed, speed, speed. |
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Location: Holly, MI | I agree with speed, especially at the end of your retrieves. Rip the rod tip up and crank like mad for the last 20 feet. Even a looker hates to see that scrawny little baitfish get away like that. I'd also be soaking a sucker over the side of the boat where the retrieves were comming out of the water. If perch are the forage, catch one of them first on a minnow or worm. In my area (check local regs) it is legal to use legally caught fish for bait. What follower could resist that nice fat wounded perch hanging there in their face. Teamwork is good here too. Have your partner fig-8 the perch toward the end of your cast. |
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Location: Alsip, Il | Thanks for the advice, I have to admitt I do get stuck in using the same retrieve, so maybe a speed up could of triggered a strike. I was going to say it was because we were fishing weeds and weedlines but we also got some to follow casting away from the weedline towards openwater. I did try topwater and that did not help. I am glad we did see the fish, because I was starting to lose confidence in me and the lake. Thanks, Al |
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| I would try using soft plastic baits. I fish a lake that produces tons of follows but not many takers. I switched to a shallow invader and squirrely burt. Both have been successful as well as other ducky baits. Also, try mogombo grubs on the back of your bucktails. Finally, as previously mentioned, nothing beats a fresh sucker, regardless of the season. good luck. |
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Location: Elkhart, IN | I'll 3rd the speed. Give 'em a bulldawg or bucktail and crank faster than possible. When they come into the figure 8 do a big oval as quick as you can. Keep doing the oval for a while after you don't see them. They may come back and hit it. You probably won't see many fish after you speed up. You may get one to eat though.
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Location: Angola, IN | Were you fishing Webster?? I've had days out there where I've quit counting at 70 follows in a day....no joking. My brothers and I have all experienced this. But this was 3-5 years ago. It's what happens when you work a bait with too much rhythm and not enough erratic movements. Speed will help....but so will a super erratic bait movement. Get your lure to run really erratic. Make it look like it's really injured. Quick short snaps, long pulls, make it bust the suface, blow out the side, dive deep, rise up, everything and do it fast, hard, slow, etc....all mixed in one cast. Make it look like you've hooked a bass and you're fighting it back to the boat. Any jerk bait will enable you to do this: Reef Hawg, Manta, HR, DDD, etc. The erratic motion can trigger the muskie's instincts into attacking a weak prey. Do it and see what happens the next time you've got 'em following to the boat like this. Get away from rhythmically retieving the lure....make it dance like James Brown on Crack!! Steve Hulbert
Edited by Phishin 7/3/2003 4:04 PM
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| Couldn't work a bait any more erratically than I was. Had those baits doing the musky shuffle all over the place. I agree with slamr. Sometimes they are just plain in a negative mode and just will follow. A change in weather conditions would be the only thing I could think of that would have turned 'em on. That 95 degree crap with not a cloud in the sky makes for a tough time, and the water and jet skiers don't help mush either. |
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| Pretend you don't see them and they'll go away.
Fish at night.
Catch a bluegill and rig it on a circle hook rig and drag it along with you.
Go someplace where you don't get any follows, then you'll appreciate what you've got.
Beav
Edited by Beaver 7/5/2003 7:50 AM
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Location: Omaha | DuPont lures. Works every time!  |
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Location: NeverNever Lake | Buy a Cast Net! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | That is one of the conditions where the creature rod shines. Seems that the fish will pick one off when it drops in front of the old snoz at 1 foot per second. 1/4 oz jigs and 7" creatures for what you describe works for me! Otherwise, try working an Undertaker or Jerko about double speed. If it is popping out of the water, that's perfect.The strikes are explosive, and usually at boatside. Slammer cranks twitched double time do as well some days, better on others. FAST is the key. If that doesn't work, stick to the jigs with at least one angler. |
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30 to 35 follows in a day what do you do?