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| I seem to have problems with rod guides always coming loose or chiping does anyone else have that problem? I don't have storage in my boat for rods longer than 7' and it seems they take a beating? Would there be any disadvantage to having a rod made with all solid stainless guides compared to insert guides? It would practically make a rod indestructible except for the exception of a blank breaking or a actual whole guide breaking off. I'm sure it would increase the weight some but should last forever.
Would that make the sensitivity become terrible or any worse with a solid guide vs a ceramic? |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Good question. Have you considered using rod socks and strapping the rods down in the boat during travel? |
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| All stainless guides would work, I used to build a bunch of rods like that for charter boat captains out east for Striped Bas and Bluefish fishing for that same reason. Their rods took a beating. I haven't built a musky rod with them yet, but I can't see why that wouldn't be a good idea. A rod sock could help as well, but they get cumbersome on the 9' rods at times, and if you go that route pay heed to JakeStCroixSkis advice about strapping them down. If you don't strap them down when your running they catch more air and move around, or could even possibly blow overboard. The only concern with the stainless guides may be that some of the guides may wear/groove a bit from the braid super lines after a few years depending on amount of use. |
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| I always put them in the suburban en route to the lake. I need to get some socks for them but most the time I'm fishing 200-300 acre lakes and st Clair once or twice a month. But I have been coating the guides with 5 minute epoxy it gives it a protective coat over the ceramic guide and haven't had to much problem since doing a light epoxy coat. I just coat where the insert is presses into the guide it actually works well to protect them and doesn't affect the line at all. But I'm still interest in a stainless guide setup. |
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Location: Detroit River | The stainless guides will start to wear over time if used with braid, plus they are noisier & add some weight to the rod. The American Tackle Ring Lock guides are some tough guides. I put them on a musky jigging rod that I built this year. A few other guys on this site recommended those guides to me & so far I'm liking them a lot. Like others have said about the rod sock, strap the rod down while driving the boat. I found out the hard way this year when I lost a bas rod that was lying on the floor of my boat while driving home from the lake. It wasn't fun watching the SUV behind me run my new rod over. |
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| I'd like to know some recommendations on quality guides as well. I also don't have rod storage in my boat and run into same problem. I've run into lot guide issues with my tdr trolling rods especially, and would like to replace the guides on a few rods. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | Stick jacket big game 7 rod sleeves are what you need. I have never chipped an insert when traveling or boating. My rods don't fit in my locker so I keep them strapped to the deck. |
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| American tackle ring lock guides are pretty tough. That is what I use to replace the guides on one of my customers rods. He is a guide and his tackle gets pretty abused through a season. They are priced pretty reasonable also. You can check mud hole tackle, or shoot me a pm and I can get you some prices on the sizes you need. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Guides are the #1 complaint for any rod company. Best guides you can get would be titanium but a good set is $100-$150 just for the guides... Next IMO is 316SS. That is what I put on all of the Vexan and Tackle Industries rods now. 3 years and not one complaint about wear, noise, breaks, etc. I have had probably 8 or 9 rods where the ring came out of the guide housing but that is it. Rod socks mentioned above are also a great addition to caring for your rods. You can break a ceramic guide or crack one and never even know it until you have a 50" on! That is NOT the time you want to find out you had a cracked guide... JMO
James
PS-Even my new Vexan ICE rods have 316SS guide ring 
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | PS-Even my new Vexan ICE rods have 316SS guide ring
Nice rods, too... |
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