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| Hi, all .Getting new 1875 Pro V Bass.Long story short. Want 4 stroke with max HP for boat under 500 pounds and no 4 cylinder V-Rod. Saving Extra 100 # is the weight for my kicker so 200 HP is out. That leaves me with a Suzuki 175. Any input on Suzuki quietness and fuel consumption. I just got back from LOTW and my nephew has a 115 HP Honda. My first experience with Honda and I was impressed. May consider 150 HP Honda as well as Lund said I should get 50MPH with 150 HP.
Any input or advise would be appreciated.
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Location: Contrarian Island | Suzukis are very quiet and they are great on gas... can't go wrong w a suzi... 6 yr warranty on them as well. I'd opt for a the 175 over 150 honda
why the concern about the weight? the 200 suzi is 509 lbs.. the 175 is 485, 24 lbs isn't going to be noticeable 1 way or the other... guys that don't put max hp on their boats more often than not end up regretting it in the long run imo...
Edited by BNelson 8/16/2016 8:34 AM
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Location: Minnesota | Yamaha makes a F 200 light 4 stroke 487 pounds . |
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| Both Suzuki and Honda produce excellent engines but my vote for that boat would be the Yamaha SHO 200 at 505 lbs it would push that rig faster than most guys would want to drive. |
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| Pat Hoolihan - 8/16/2016 9:06 AM
Both Suzuki and Honda produce excellent engines but my vote for that boat would be the Yamaha SHO 200 at 505 lbs it would push that rig faster than most guys would want to drive.
Not available in 25" shaft. But the F200 would work well on that boat I think. I love mine. |
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| That's what the jack plate is for |
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| I ran a 175 Suzuki on LOTW for 8 years. Best outboard I have ever owned. Never had one issue. Duane who owned D&S storage at the Angle continually would say that is the best motor ever made. But I agree with looking at a 200, always max out the recommended HP |
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Location: With my son on the water | IMO I would get the motor you want regardless of the weight because even with a 100 lb kicker you will be fine with a boat that big. I run a Tuffy 1760 with a Merc 150 4 stroke w/ a 9.9 pro kicker and it performs fine and my rig is considerably smaller than what you are getting. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The 175 Suzi is a great motor. |
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Location: SE WISCONSIN | Why not the Mercury 150 4-stroke? |
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Location: Watertown, MN | Well wanted Yammy Sho, but no 25 inch shaft. so came down to suzuki honda or yammy. Best price was suzuki, honda I have heard is probably on way out of the outboard business. Yammy have been known to be little doggy on hole shot. So went with the Suzuki, quiet, great gas, has better hole shot then my old 2 stroke, it has 16" prop big torque, one of my biggest fear of going to 4 stroke. My buddy has had his 115 for 13 years and bullet proof. Would go with 200, 24lb is nothing for 25hp. You will love it, it was amazing running WOT having conversation in the boat.
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| i've heard of the big (200+) suzuki's blowing up. can't speak about the smaller ones, but I heard only good things about suzukis up until recently
Honda - they're a little heavy, but those buggers start every freakin time. It's a honda....
In terms of ease to find shops that do service work:
1. yamaha
2. honda
3. suzuki |
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| Have Ranger 617vs (1,525 lbs empty boat) with Honda BF150 & BF8. The Honda 150 is an Accord engine and was introduced to the US in 2004. Turn the key..it starts..WOT & I'm on plane in 4- 5 seconds (32 gal gas, 50" live well, 3 - 29 series batteries). With the right prop it will move out at 50 mph. I run a PowerTec OFS4 which lowers the top end but gives me excellent hole shots and lower planning speeds. The Honda 115, 135 and 150 with 25" shafts all weigh 485 lbs.
I would also agree with others to max out HP. You can't go wrong with the engineering of the engines you're considering.
Enjoy your new rig...sound fantastic. |
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| JMacD - 8/17/2016 6:35 AM
The Honda 115, 135 and 150 with 25" shafts all weigh 485 lbs.
I would also agree with others to max out HP. You can't go wrong with the engineering of the engines you're considering.
Enjoy your new rig...sound fantastic.
To build on this, they all use the same block
115 - standard
135 - variable intake
150 - vtec
These are bulletproof engines |
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Location: Contrarian Island | any motor can blow up... my 175 suzi blew up.. it had ~500 hrs.. was on it's 9th year of use.. I replaced it w a 2016 suzi ... a friend of mine had a 225 suzi blow up 2.5 yrs in, so his was under warranty and he babys his motor... unlike me  take any brand, yamaha, merc, evinrude, suzi etc... if you talk to enough ppl or mechanics you will figure out that they all can and do blow up... as a % of course the new 4 strokes are 99.9% bulletproof...but you could end up in that .1% too ;(
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | tolle141 - 8/16/2016 10:53 PM
i've heard of the big (200+) suzuki's blowing up. can't speak about the smaller ones, but I heard only good things about suzukis up until recently
Honda - they're a little heavy, but those buggers start every freakin time. It's a honda....
In terms of ease to find shops that do service work:
1. yamaha
2. honda
3. suzuki
'I've heard of' doesn't work here, it rumor and innuendo second party. Let's stick to actual personal experience in issues like this.Thanks! |
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| I'm on my 2nd boat with a Suzuki DF140...absolutely zero issues, would buy another Suzuki without hesitation.
Yamaha is also high on my list.
I've never been in a boat with a Honda on it...but the company's quality is well known and impressive.
...If it were me, and I could get the extra oomph of the 175...I'd go Suzuki with confidence.
By the way: GREAT choice on the boat. From what I've seen and read you'll be very happy with it. |
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| I have a Suzuki 150 on my boat which is the same block as the 175. This is an incredible motor. I have run out of superlatives to say how great it is or how much I love it.
Contrary to what some have said, my boat is rated for a 200, but I have a 150 on it. Loaded with a full tank of gas (41 gallons) 3 guys, tons of gear (camping for a week on LOW), easily 500# and I was seeing 45MPH on GPS. We have a 22 mile boat ride in to the island where we camp and obviously a 22 mile boat ride back when we leave. I wish I had turned on the odometer on my GPS to actually track how many miles covered, but I make the entire week without refueling while my buddy with his Yamaha has to add 10 gallons (he does have a slightly smaller tank though too).
I wont say anything bad about Honda because they make great things. My buddy has a 90 and its been bulletproof for him.
I could say without hesitation I would recommend the 175. Another buddy of mine just bought a new pontoon with a 175 Suzuki on it. I asked him how he liked it and he just couldn't believe the difference, in how quiet it is and speed. He had a Honda on his previous pontoon, but always complained about speed (kinda funny complaining about speed on a pontoon). I don't recall what size Honda it was though, but I am sure it was more of a matter of underpowered for the size pontoon and not necessarily a fault of the motor itself. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | If I were to buy a new motor today I would prob look into Yamaha. We have always had great luck with our Yammys |
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Location: With my son on the water | If I were to buy a new motor, (Wait, I just did in 2014). Merc 150 4 stroke and it has been great. Great hole shot, great gas mileage (5.6 mpg) measured on a Merc Ecco monitor @ 3300 rpms going 26 mph, scary fast 50 plus but rarely go there, and So easy to winterize. Plus I supported the Wisconsin economy.
All the motors are good these days so it is all personal choice, it only takes one bad component (that all the manufactures purchase from the same vendor) to make a bad day. For me I personally know and have worked with many of the Engineers & Production Managers in the merc plant in Fond Du Lac, I know how intelligent these guys are and how committed they are to a good product so I had to support them and would do it again.
Cool water is coming, have a good day.  |
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | If I was buying a Lund Pro V Bass 1875 I would get the Mercury 150 4-stroke for several reasons.
#1 High 40s to 50 for WOT is fast enough. I just bought an X-190 and I didn't get the 150 due being at 75% max HP. I went with a Yammy 175 4-stroke and I don't see how I need the extra 25 hp. So often, I can't even run max HP since it is too rough and I don't want to beat the crap out of the boat. I was on Green Bay for 4 days in July and only twice was the water ever calm enough to go WOT. And unless I am fishing a tournament, even if it's smooth I will still stick around 35-40 mi/hr. #2 I have great Mercury dealers around me while I have over an hour drive to the nearest Yammyy dealer. #3 A LOT of Pro V Bass boats are being sold with the 150 4-storke so I don't think you're going to take a hit with resale. #4 Everything I read says the 150 Merc 4-stroke is a GREAT motor.
Good luck. I don't think you'll go wrong with any of your choices. |
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