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Location: Oregon, WI | I'd like too but don't think water temps will be low enough here in madison. Sucks haven't musky fished for a month.
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| Yea me either but water temps will not stop me due to the fact i have not had time to fish much this summer. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | So if water temps are 85 that "won't stop you" ? Pretty sad mentality the need to fish overtakes common sense. |
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| I don't get unlimited amount of time to fish. I happened to have a chance Thursday so yes regardless of water temps I will be on the water. If it makes you sleep better I will be fishing from sun down to sun up so the temps should be a little lower. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | High of 87. Low of 70. Yah. Youll see 83 to 85 that night. Neat. |
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Location: Waukee, IA | I've been off the water for a month and a half due to temps, it's not fun but you need to buck up and do the right thing when temps get too high. |
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Location: Detroit River | 80 temps aren't stopping the guys on LSC from musky fishing or the bass clubs from having tourneys. Was a sad site a couple weeks ago with dozens of 5 LB & 6 LB smallies floating belly up near the docks. I don't plan to fish for musky again this year until the temps go down. Going to target sturgeon in the SCR were the temps are lower.
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Location: Contrarian Island | monona was 81.5 last eve at 8pm (bluegill fishing)... only hotter the next 2 days... definitely will be over 80 until saturday..but don't let anyone or common sense stop you from fishing for muskies! 
many people will fish when it's warm, it is their choice, so is mine to voice my opinion
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Location: Detroit River | BNelson - 8/17/2016 10:57 AM
monona was 81.5 last eve at 8pm (bluegill fishing )... only hotter the next 2 days... definitely will be over 80 until saturday..but don't let anyone or common sense stop you from fishing for muskies!
I guess at least 1 of the guides in Madison doesn't care what the water temps are either as at least one of them is out on the water right now... wish more guides were like Mike Koepp.
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| Hey wisskie, did you purchase a fishing license this year? Then fish when you can / when you want under the restrictions of the law. Someone on here made a good point a while ago that stuck with me....basically stating that the hardcore guys out there (sometimes judging others ethics) that catch 100 muskies a year kill more by delayed mortality than the vacationing "Joe" that catches a few each season, even if they keep one for the wall or even the grill! That being said, I am 100% CPR and do my very best to make sure each fish I catch swims away strong but there is no guarantee they survive long term. Also, I schedule my fishing vacations around my work and family so when I get on the water the temps are what they are. Northern Wisconsin two weeks ago I didn't see surface temps over 78.5 degrees all week and I was on 5 different lakes.
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| I'm not saying I am for or against it, but does anyone have any proof (like a study - facts) that show when the water temp is over 80 the mortality rate on a released fish is greater? Is 79 ok but 80 is not says the study? Just curious. |
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Location: Metro | Steveessie - 8/18/2016 7:11 AM
I'm not saying I am for or against it, but does anyone have any proof (like a study - facts) that show when the water temp is over 80 the mortality rate on a released fish is greater? Is 79 ok but 80 is not says the study? Just curious.
I tried to contact the DNR about this same question after getting blown up on here because I asked what the water temps were. Still haven't gotten a call back from anyone. Might try giving them a call in the next couple of weeks or the off season. I would definitely say there is a relation but it would be nice to see some real studies done. I am guessing the DNR doesn't receive enough money to do this study but it is worth a shot. |
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| http://www.in-fisherman.com/pike-muskie/tracking-pike-and-muskies/
In July and August, muskies often inhabited temperatures that are considered stressful for coolwater fish, or were located at depths with low dissolved oxygen, presumably to avoid warm water. Fifty percent of muskies were located in dissolved oxygen levels less that 3 ppm in summer. Some were found in depth zones where oxygen levels would occasionally drop to 1 ppm. Twenty percent of the fish occupied water at or above 82°F. Muskies in water that warm typically returned to cooler, deeper water after short periods. |
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| Is it common sense to fish when you can with a legal license, or to use the 80 degree mark? I wonder what the percentage of muskie guys even knowing about the water temp even is.
I doubt it will be much better for muskies after this cold front when thousands of anglers that couldn't fish for a month hit the lakes and set hooks, net, hold fish, drop a few, and assume they swam off wonderfully.
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| muskidiem - 8/18/2016 12:09 PM
Is it common sense to fish when you can with a legal license, or to use the 80 degree mark? I wonder what the percentage of muskie guys even knowing about the water temp even is.
I doubt it will be much better for muskies after this cold front when thousands of anglers that couldn't fish for a month hit the lakes and set hooks, net, hold fish, drop a few, and assume they swam off wonderfully.
I can't fish til Labor Day anyway, so good luck to you all at home or on the water.
I know many guys who look at me like I'm crazy when I mention not fishing with high water temps... new guys and very seasoned muskie guys
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Location: MN | So how about that moon, eh? Fish were going last night and should be even more fired up tonight. This is my favorite moon of the year. And in case you were wondering temps were below 80. Air temp on the other hand was brutal. |
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| Fishing regulations didn't create the fisheries we have today, angling ethics did. Regulations followed after much lobbying from the muskie angling community. Yeah, you can legally fish for muskies regardless of temperature, but keep the "I'll fish when I want" stuff for yourself. We'll keep doing our part to protect the ones that are left. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | no belittling in my posts above... look at the guides that don't fish in the Midwest when it's 80 or above, that is their livelihood and they cancel dates...I could rattle off 10 guides that know better.. my question for those that 'need to fish' so bad, would you feel good if you caught one and found out it was a floater tomorrow? as pointed out above, the "don't tell me when I can and can't fish" mentality is so pee brained to me it makes my head spin....the reason our fishery is so good is from protection, not exploitation... it will be cooler next week... if you have to go tonight I hope you at least water release any you are lucky enough to catch.... my 2 cents.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | back home now but got this moonrise fish last night ... water temps. 75 degrees on the surface and had to go deep to get em on riggers at 110 in 140 FOW.
more than one game to play when it gets hot and no reason to stay off the water, just pick your game and water to suit conditions. a King would pull a musky around the lake anyway and are way more fun to catch with pretty much the same result. just one you can kill with a knife and a smile on your face when it's over.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 80 on a couple of my favorites the last few days. I don't like fishing muskies when temps are over 75, especially if the temp at the bottom is near 75 in 15', which it was Sunday. I killed a couple in waters too warm MANY years ago, and it bothered me enough not to take chances again.
So...big crappies are a kick to find and catch. Very strong year classes in this lake, so no feeling bad about keeping a couple. Dinner was great.
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| "I'll fish when I want" and "I fish when I'm able to" mean two different things entirely! It's not like anyone is trying to force you to fish in high water temps if you don't want to. I respect your choice, but the "your killing all the muskies catching them in hot temps" mentality is as PEE BRAINED as the walleye fishermen thinking all the walleye are getting eaten by your precious musky. Again....the hard core weekly / daily anglers are more likely to kill more fish in a season than the random vacationer.
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| Zib, St clair temps are fine mid lake, Canadian side. Lots of fish there too. As for the near shore US waters your right. Over by the channels is allright as well.
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Location: Detroit River | I fished mid lake 2 weeks ago & water temp was 81. Last week the mile roads were 84 near shore & close to 82 in 16 fow. Seen 3 dead muskies out there as well, which is the most floaters I seen in a day since the VHS hit the lake.
Hopefully the storms hit earlier today so I can go sturgeon fishing tonight.
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Location: Contrarian Island | well, we are a passionate bunch aren't we...Jaimy, where did anyone in this thread or any other thread say ""you're killing all the muskies catching them in hot temps" ..please do point that out for me.... dissolved oxygen which muskies need to live, goes down with higher temps, I believe there is no argument there.... go run 100 yard dash then get put in a room with 25% oxygen in the air as normal and see how you feel... glad the cold front hit this weekend...
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| Zib - 8/19/2016 12:56 PM
I fished mid lake 2 weeks ago & water temp was 81. Last week the mile roads were 84 near shore & close to 82 in 16 fow. Seen 3 dead muskies out there as well, which is the most floaters I seen in a day since the VHS hit the lake.
Hopefully the storms hit earlier today so I can go sturgeon fishing tonight.
76 and 77 Wednesday 3 miles East of the ditch. Same by the South Channel. Im sure the mile roads were still cooking though. Saw 1 floater but it also looked to have been stabbed. The 46 I caught exploded out of my hands after just a few rocks. Not trying to argue just thought it was sad when you said you couldn't musky the rest of the summer.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=45147
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | BMuskyX - 8/19/2016 7:37 AM
"I'll fish when I want" and "I fish when I'm able to" mean two different things entirely! It's not like anyone is trying to force you to fish in high water temps if you don't want to. I respect your choice, but the "your killing all the muskies catching them in hot temps" mentality is as PEE BRAINED as the walleye fishermen thinking all the walleye are getting eaten by your precious musky. Again....the hard core weekly / daily anglers are more likely to kill more fish in a season than the random vacationer.
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Leading with your chin on this one, not the best analogy.
One should not fish muskies when water temps are as warm as they have been IF one is concerned about post catch survival of the muskie they are targeting. Likely to kill the fish. If that's not of concern, expect to be challenged by those to whom it is. The 'hard core' more than not belong to the latter. Who's right?
Depends on what the personal end goal is. I choose to leave 'em alone, and frankly wish more folks would. I saw quite a few muskie anglers out fishing mid day with water temps well over 80 on top and over 75 in 15'.
It's never been 'your', it's always been 'our'. That's the rub.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | selfish type A's targeting a fish that is vulnerable vs. using discretion and fishing for something else ... sportsmen.
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| Most of my my musky fishing is done in early June or late September so high water temps have rarely been an issue. If I do schedule vacation time off work, book a cabin, pack, drive 7-8 hours, etc. to find less than Ideal conditions, I'm not going to sit on the dock and catch bluegill all week.
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| jonnysled - 8/19/2016 6:22 PM
selfish type A's targeting a fish that is vulnerable vs. using discretion and fishing for something else ... sportsmen.
Killing my limit on species B C and D all week would make me more of a sportsmen than catching and safely releasing (to the best of my abilities) for the chance of survival, maybe one species A makes me selfish???????????
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 7:18 AM
Most of my my musky fishing is done in early June or late September so high water temps have rarely been an issue. If I do schedule vacation time off work, book a cabin, pack, drive 7-8 hours, etc. to find less than Ideal conditions, I'm not going to sit on the dock and catch bluegill all week.
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Didn't really read anything here that you should cancel a trip.
Fishing an urban fishery that is dependent on stocking, and dollars for that stocking, is a bit different. Madison has an open season from May until December. Someone arguing they can't live with giving it a rest from mid July to mid August is pretty weak. I guess people that put in the time, effort and resources to build the fishery for others deserve a bit more respect for their efforts. I might suggest getting involved sometime for a better understanding of how it all works, these fish in that system are fragile and don't grow on trees.
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| Musky Brian - 8/20/2016 8:02 AM
But it's all good....you either care or you don't. It's a free country
It's not that cut and dry.... I can care very much about the conservation of the fish (which I do) and still have a different opinion on certain aspects of the sport.
Off topic but, some of the same guys who feel strongly about the life of a fish will let 'em be for the hot months but may sit in a bar all day and drive home not caring about the lives of people sharing the road. I know that example is a stretch but my point is, JUDGE NOT.... |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Expand your game ... that same 7 hours can deliver some incredible fishing. |
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| jonnysled - 8/20/2016 9:13 AM
Expand your game ... that same 7 hours can deliver some incredible fishing.
I don't really enjoy targeting other species. My fishing time is very limited also....putting in 120 hours of work in 10 days as we speak so when I do get a chance to fish, I will target my preferred quarry. I'm sorry if that offends some but I do my best to release all musky unharmed. None of us can say that we know all fish in our net survive.
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Location: FIB land | These days , pretty much what our society cultivates - I, me, my ... Yep, look at me, it's all about me. |
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Off topic but, some of the same guys who feel strongly about the life of a fish will let 'em be for the hot months but may sit in a bar all day and drive home not caring about the lives of people sharing the road. I know that example is a stretch but my point is, JUDGE NOT....
wow.... What bar are all you liquor pigs sitting in? I'm tired of drinking alone waiting for temps to drop and to get just sauced enough to drive home. Might be the dumbest paragraph I've ever encountered on here. |
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| muskie-don58 - 8/20/2016 10:21 AM
These days , pretty much what our society cultivates - I, me, my ... Yep, look at me, it's all about me.
Most of you are just saying "do what I do", "listen to ME about fishing high temps", "follow MY example"! All I'm saying is that ALL of US to have the right to make OUR own choices.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Yup ... That one's a dandy
No, they're saying when ciscoes are dying and water is ridiculously hot throughout the column try being a sportsman and not a selfish moron.
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| jonnysled - 8/20/2016 11:27 AM
Yup ... That one's a dandy
No, they're saying when thousands of ciscoes are dying and water is ridiculously hot throughout the column try being a sportsman and not a selfish moron.
I have never to my knowledge fished in waters 80 degrees or hotter. The 78.5 temps I fished in a couple weeks ago was just fine in my opinion! As stated before most of my trips are early June or late September......but the choice is still up to the individual "sportsman". Some opinions can be based on something other than ones own actions. For example I support the right to own guns but have never and more than likely will never own one.
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| I don't think the danger to musky survival from catching them in water that's too hot is an "opinion"... That's pretty much been proven. Sure, we can legally fish for them at any point during the season - that's a privilege we pay for when we buy a license. That doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
I don't get it. Guys will crucify someone for catching a musky on light tackle, not having the right release tools, having the fish out of water too long, laying it on the bottom of the boat, or using a vertical hold. But when it comes to fishing in stupid-hot water there's suddenly an argument? |
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Location: Madison, WI | Being a true "sportsman" would be showing some respect for the animal and the resource. Just because something is legal does not make it right or ethical. Just a few years ago a hunter could kill as many deer as he wanted down here for only $2 a piece. A guy on a neighboring MFL land killed 26 in one season! Even though it was legal I would not call that being a sportsman! |
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Location: The desert | BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 7:39 AM
jonnysled - 8/19/2016 6:22 PM
selfish type A's targeting a fish that is vulnerable vs. using discretion and fishing for something else ... sportsmen.
Killing my limit on species B C and D all week would make me more of a sportsmen than catching and safely releasing (to the best of my abilities ) for the chance of survival, maybe one species A makes me selfish???????????
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Lol. This guy is on fire!
I'd suggest punting the keyboard. It's killing you like hot water does muskies. |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | Pointerpride102 - 8/20/2016 1:35 PM
BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 7:39 AM
jonnysled - 8/19/2016 6:22 PM
selfish type A's targeting a fish that is vulnerable vs. using discretion and fishing for something else ... sportsmen.
Killing my limit on species B C and D all week would make me more of a sportsmen than catching and safely releasing (to the best of my abilities ) for the chance of survival, maybe one species A makes me selfish???????????
Jaimy
Lol. This guy is on fire!
I'd suggest punting the keyboard. It's killing you like hot water does muskies.
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| Some real self-righteous sorts on here. The original poster just asked about full moon fishing and got slammed. Panties in a bunch over something that matters so little in the big picture...wonder how you guys handle real problems.
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| BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 4:39 PM
Some real self-righteous sorts on here. The original poster just asked about full moon fishing and got slammed. Panties in a bunch over something that matters so little in the big picture...wonder how you guys handle real problems.
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We solve them.
- Over harvest was a problem, solved by C&R education and increased size limits
- Single hook sucker rigs were a problem, solved by education and the widespread use of quick strike rigs
- Vertical holds were a problem, solved by education
- Poor release techniques were a problem, solved by education
Delayed mortality is a problem. It can be solved by education, so the folks out there fishing for muskies know how to catch them and release them safely.
Catching them in warm water is a problem, because it increases the chances that they will not survive by enough that most knowledgeable folks will simply stop fishing for them when surface temps are hovering around 80.
That's the easiest problem to solve. Just fish for something else until the water cools off. Or play golf or stay home and play with yourself if it suits you.
But if you're going to say "I do everything I can..." don't expect much sympathy when that includes the caveat of "except I fish whenever I want regardless of water temps..."
What you're basically saying is "I care about the safety of the fish only insofar as it doesn't interfere with my ability to fish when I want to."
Well, okay then. You're within your legal rights, just like you are to harvest whatever muskies you catch that are of legal size.
Might want to just do that quietly instead of looking for justification in a place like this.
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Location: Blaine, MN | Please Don't have him punt... This one is borderline epic, I need entertainment on my bar stool. Even changed my signature line!
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Location: The desert | BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 4:39 PM
Some real self-righteous sorts on here. The original poster just asked about full moon fishing and got slammed. Panties in a bunch over something that matters so little in the big picture...wonder how you guys handle real problems.
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In the big picture of what? Life? That's a colossal stretch to even compare the two. Many here are extremely passionate about this sport and put a lot of time and money into improving the fisheries where they fish. Naturally, they then become very passionate about the resource. Many also use it to escape the real problems in their life that you bring up. Thus when someone comes on here and claims they care about the resource but then says they plan to fish during the hottest water temps of the summer, it shouldn't come with much shock that many will raise questions about that angler's line of thinking and even their ethics.
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Location: Detroit River | tackleaddict - 8/19/2016 4:43 PM
76 and 77 Wednesday 3 miles East of the ditch. Same by the South Channel. Im sure the mile roads were still cooking though. Saw 1 floater but it also looked to have been stabbed. The 46 I caught exploded out of my hands after just a few rocks. Not trying to argue just thought it was sad when you said you couldn't musky the rest of the summer.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=45147
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| Got my arm twisted and took a friend's son out early a.m. Water was 77 and I was telling myself at least it's not 80. He caught a fish pretty quickly but I'm afraid it became eagle food. We hung around and went back to it 2 times to revive it and the last time it dove straight down not to be seen again. I don't think it probably made it. This hasn't happened to me in many years and I feel awful. A question comes to mind, has anybody ever stuck one in the live box and blasted the aerator? This came to mind after of course. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | only catch'n - 8/21/2016 7:57 AM
Got my arm twisted and took a friend's son out early a.m. Water was 77 and I was telling myself at least it's not 80. He caught a fish pretty quickly but I'm afraid it became eagle food. We hung around and went back to it 2 times to revive it and the last time it dove straight down not to be seen again. I don't think it probably made it. This hasn't happened to me in many years and I feel awful. A question comes to mind, has anybody ever stuck one in the live box and blasted the aerator? This came to mind after of course.
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| esoxaddict - 8/20/2016 6:11 PM
BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 4:39 PM
Some real self-righteous sorts on here. The original poster just asked about full moon fishing and got slammed. Panties in a bunch over something that matters so little in the big picture...wonder how you guys handle real problems.
Jaimy
We solve them.
- Over harvest was a problem, solved by C&R education and increased size limits
- Single hook sucker rigs were a problem, solved by education and the widespread use of quick strike rigs
- Vertical holds were a problem, solved by education
- Poor release techniques were a problem, solved by education
Delayed mortality is a problem. It can be solved by education, so the folks out there fishing for muskies know how to catch them and release them safely.
Catching them in warm water is a problem, because it increases the chances that they will not survive by enough that most knowledgeable folks will simply stop fishing for them when surface temps are hovering around 80.
That's the easiest problem to solve. Just fish for something else until the water cools off. Or play golf or stay home and play with yourself if it suits you.
But if you're going to say "I do everything I can..." don't expect much sympathy when that includes the caveat of "except I fish whenever I want regardless of water temps..."
What you're basically saying is "I care about the safety of the fish only insofar as it doesn't interfere with my ability to fish when I want to."
Well, okay then. You're within your legal rights, just like you are to harvest whatever muskies you catch that are of legal size.
Might want to just do that quietly instead of looking for justification in a place like this.
Just sayin'...
I get all of it, I do. All posts back are under the assumption that I fish this way when I don't. However, I still would not cancel a trip if I was confronted with unseasonably (June or September) warm water and I would not sit on my ass jigging minnows to fill my freezer with other species. I understand where the original poster was coming from and felt he was wrongfully jumped on by bnelson for asking a simple question or having a different opinion. He is actually the one that got the ball rolling saying he was fishing no matter what the temps. (and I see he bailed on the discussion pretty quickly). My general nature on any debate is to "stir the #*#*" so I guess that's just a personality flaw. I don't keep any musky and it's not my place to condemn ones who do. Just like it's no ones place to condemn someone fishing for them all summer long if that's what they choose to do. Despite what some think, these are not MY fish, not YOUR fish, not even OUR fish...they don't belong to anyone! Each individual fisherman has to do their part in anyway that they feel is ethical and right even if it (OH MY GOD!) contradicts what some others on this board think. Although staying home playing with myself has its appeal, I will continue to enjoy the sport of musky fishing releasing "ALL" that hit my net in the hopes that someone else can enjoy it as well.
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Location: Waukee, IA | BMuskyX - 8/21/2016 8:34 AM
esoxaddict - 8/20/2016 6:11 PM
BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 4:39 PM
Some real self-righteous sorts on here. The original poster just asked about full moon fishing and got slammed. Panties in a bunch over something that matters so little in the big picture...wonder how you guys handle real problems.
Jaimy
We solve them.
- Over harvest was a problem, solved by C&R education and increased size limits
- Single hook sucker rigs were a problem, solved by education and the widespread use of quick strike rigs
- Vertical holds were a problem, solved by education
- Poor release techniques were a problem, solved by education
Delayed mortality is a problem. It can be solved by education, so the folks out there fishing for muskies know how to catch them and release them safely.
Catching them in warm water is a problem, because it increases the chances that they will not survive by enough that most knowledgeable folks will simply stop fishing for them when surface temps are hovering around 80.
That's the easiest problem to solve. Just fish for something else until the water cools off. Or play golf or stay home and play with yourself if it suits you.
But if you're going to say "I do everything I can..." don't expect much sympathy when that includes the caveat of "except I fish whenever I want regardless of water temps..."
What you're basically saying is "I care about the safety of the fish only insofar as it doesn't interfere with my ability to fish when I want to."
Well, okay then. You're within your legal rights, just like you are to harvest whatever muskies you catch that are of legal size.
Might want to just do that quietly instead of looking for justification in a place like this.
Just sayin'...
I get all of it, I do. All posts back are under the assumption that I fish this way when I don't. However, I still would not cancel a trip if I was confronted with unseasonably (June or September ) warm water and I would not sit on my ass jigging minnows to fill my freezer with other species. I understand where the original poster was coming from and felt he was wrongfully jumped on by bnelson for asking a simple question or having a different opinion. He is actually the one that got the ball rolling saying he was fishing no matter what the temps. (and I see he bailed on the discussion pretty quickly ). My general nature on any debate is to "stir the #*#*" so I guess that's just a personality flaw. I don't keep any musky and it's not my place to condemn ones who do. Just like it's no ones place to condemn someone fishing for them all summer long if that's what they choose to do. Despite what some think, these are not MY fish, not YOUR fish, not even OUR fish...they don't belong to anyone! Each individual fisherman has to do their part in anyway that they feel is ethical and right even if it (OH MY GOD! ) contradicts what some others on this board think. Although staying home playing with myself has its appeal, I will continue to enjoy the sport of musky fishing releasing "ALL" that hit my net in the hopes that someone else can enjoy it as well.
Jaimy
So with all of your backtracking and contradiction, what IS your point? I think you're just talking for the pleasure of doing so, all the while openly encouraging bad ethics. |
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Location: The desert | BMuskyX - 8/21/2016 8:34 AM
esoxaddict - 8/20/2016 6:11 PM
BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 4:39 PM
Some real self-righteous sorts on here. The original poster just asked about full moon fishing and got slammed. Panties in a bunch over something that matters so little in the big picture...wonder how you guys handle real problems.
Jaimy
We solve them.
- Over harvest was a problem, solved by C&R education and increased size limits
- Single hook sucker rigs were a problem, solved by education and the widespread use of quick strike rigs
- Vertical holds were a problem, solved by education
- Poor release techniques were a problem, solved by education
Delayed mortality is a problem. It can be solved by education, so the folks out there fishing for muskies know how to catch them and release them safely.
Catching them in warm water is a problem, because it increases the chances that they will not survive by enough that most knowledgeable folks will simply stop fishing for them when surface temps are hovering around 80.
That's the easiest problem to solve. Just fish for something else until the water cools off. Or play golf or stay home and play with yourself if it suits you.
But if you're going to say "I do everything I can..." don't expect much sympathy when that includes the caveat of "except I fish whenever I want regardless of water temps..."
What you're basically saying is "I care about the safety of the fish only insofar as it doesn't interfere with my ability to fish when I want to."
Well, okay then. You're within your legal rights, just like you are to harvest whatever muskies you catch that are of legal size.
Might want to just do that quietly instead of looking for justification in a place like this.
Just sayin'...
I get all of it, I do. All posts back are under the assumption that I fish this way when I don't. However, I still would not cancel a trip if I was confronted with unseasonably (June or September ) warm water and I would not sit on my ass jigging minnows to fill my freezer with other species. I understand where the original poster was coming from and felt he was wrongfully jumped on by bnelson for asking a simple question or having a different opinion. He is actually the one that got the ball rolling saying he was fishing no matter what the temps. (and I see he bailed on the discussion pretty quickly ). My general nature on any debate is to "stir the #*#*" so I guess that's just a personality flaw. I don't keep any musky and it's not my place to condemn ones who do. Just like it's no ones place to condemn someone fishing for them all summer long if that's what they choose to do. Despite what some think, these are not MY fish, not YOUR fish, not even OUR fish...they don't belong to anyone! Each individual fisherman has to do their part in anyway that they feel is ethical and right even if it (OH MY GOD! ) contradicts what some others on this board think. Although staying home playing with myself has its appeal, I will continue to enjoy the sport of musky fishing releasing "ALL" that hit my net in the hopes that someone else can enjoy it as well.
Jaimy
Cool story, except you're sidestepping the actual issue on which you were "stirring the pot" for. And that's fishing when water temps are high, increasing the likelihood of mortality.
And that was the lamest attempt at "stirring the pot". |
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Location: The desert | BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 9:25 AM
jonnysled - 8/20/2016 9:13 AM
Expand your game ... that same 7 hours can deliver some incredible fishing.
I don't really enjoy targeting other species. My fishing time is very limited also....putting in 120 hours of work in 10 days as we speak so when I do get a chance to fish, I will target my preferred quarry. I'm sorry if that offends some but I do my best to release all musky unharmed. None of us can say that we know all fish in our net survive.
Jaimy
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Location: Waukee, IA | BMuskyX - 8/21/2016 1:33 PM
I'm not attempting to promote or encourage people to fish in high water temps. Promoting the acceptance of others choices and opinions without judgment.
Jaimy
Acceptance of bad habits goes by a different name usually. ENABLING |
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| Pointerpride102 - 8/21/2016 1:50 PM
BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 9:25 AM
jonnysled - 8/20/2016 9:13 AM
Expand your game ... that same 7 hours can deliver some incredible fishing.
I don't really enjoy targeting other species. My fishing time is very limited also....putting in 120 hours of work in 10 days as we speak so when I do get a chance to fish, I will target my preferred quarry. I'm sorry if that offends some but I do my best to release all musky unharmed. None of us can say that we know all fish in our net survive.
Jaimy
So this was just a lie?
I still plan trips JUNE and SEPTEMBER as stated many times above! The rare times I go in August such as this year, the lakes I have fished were no hotter than 78.5 surface temps as shown on two Lowrance units on my boat. Just saying if I do encounter unseasonably warm temps I will not abort my trip....has been a non-issue thus far. Getting all worked up over something that could, but has never happened seems like a waste of time but for some reason this thread continues. |
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| tkuntz - 8/21/2016 2:24 PM
BMuskyX - 8/21/2016 1:33 PM
I'm not attempting to promote or encourage people to fish in high water temps. Promoting the acceptance of others choices and opinions without judgment.
Jaimy
Acceptance of bad habits goes by a different name usually. ENABLING
Bad habit is a relative term. I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs but many do and don't even consider them bad habits. |
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Location: The desert | BMuskyX - 8/21/2016 3:27 PM
Pointerpride102 - 8/21/2016 1:50 PM
BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 9:25 AM
jonnysled - 8/20/2016 9:13 AM
Expand your game ... that same 7 hours can deliver some incredible fishing.
I don't really enjoy targeting other species. My fishing time is very limited also....putting in 120 hours of work in 10 days as we speak so when I do get a chance to fish, I will target my preferred quarry. I'm sorry if that offends some but I do my best to release all musky unharmed. None of us can say that we know all fish in our net survive.
Jaimy
So this was just a lie?
I still plan trips JUNE and SEPTEMBER as stated many times above! The rare times I go in August such as this year, the lakes I have fished were no hotter than 78.5 surface temps as shown on two Lowrance units on my boat. Just saying if I do encounter unseasonably warm temps I will not abort my trip....has been a non-issue thus far. Getting all worked up over something that could, but has never happened seems like a waste of time but for some reason this thread continues.
So if my buddies and I come and fish your home waters and start keeping every legal fish we catch, you're cool with it because we're within law? You don't see how this could be detrimental to the water you fish on? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Pointerpride102 - 8/21/2016 1:50 PM BMuskyX - 8/20/2016 9:25 AM jonnysled - 8/20/2016 9:13 AM
Expand your game ... that same 7 hours can deliver some incredible fishing. I don't really enjoy targeting other species. My fishing time is very limited also.... putting in 120 hours of work in 10 days as we speak so when I do get a chance to fish, I will target my preferred quarry. I'm sorry if that offends some but I do my best to release all musky unharmed. None of us can say that we know all fish in our net survive. Jaimy So this was just a lie? Sounds like my job.
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