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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Before I re-purchase a Big Nasty again, I wanted to take a little pulse on what the masses are throwing these days with all the new products out.
I'm looking for a rod that is about as close to perfect as perfect gets |
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Location: Minnesota | For big blades predator heavy 2 inches off the tip Tranx pg |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | I am certainly a "palmer", have tried to go the route of the upper grip and just can't do it.
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| I like the new real seat for palming better than the old style... As do others i fish with. It might take some time to get used to, or you may never like it. Test out a buddies first |
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| The best big blade rod I have right now is a Tackle Industries 10'6" xxh. Hands down the best big blade rod I have ever used. I have two big nastys and two of the TI 10'6" xxh rods. I built all of the rods the way I want them, which makes them all a little lighter weight than stock rods. I use the big nastys for small stuff now like top water and showgirls. The TI rods get all the work when it comes to anything from junior cowgirls up to supermodels. The extra length is awesome in the 8's and really lets me bomb cast baits to cover a ton of water. I have them both paired with a pg tranx. James at TI is an awesome guy to work with to boot, with great customer service. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Big Dawg customized by Tuscarora is my favorite. I haven't tried a 10'6" TI but like the 9' and 7.5' we have for general use. |
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| I dig my Big Nasty for blades. |
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Location: plant earth | cabelas predator muskie 9' love the grip. great price too. they had a cave sale online got it shipped to my door just a fuzz over 80 bucks. |
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Location: Gilberts IL/Rhinelander WI | Best option in my opinion is a custom st Croix elite. I had been using a big nasty for blades up til this year and really like the elite. It's light and I really like the action of the rod. I also have a predator heavy but feel it's a little light in the tip, even with 2" off. I know some guys using an XH predator, but I have no experience with that rod.
Good luck on the search, I feel anyone recommending anything but st Croix is inevitably using price as a factor to determine the best rods. I'm assuming you're looking for the best for the job, not best bang for a buck. |
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| muskyhunter47 - 7/21/2016 8:32 AM
For big blades predator heavy 2 inches off the tip Tranx pg
Ditto for the rod, I have this set up on a 9' blank and love it.
I use the HG Tranx though, the PG will pull much easier, but I prefer the speed of the HG |
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Location: South-Central VA | For my personal preference, the only blank I've found with a stiff enough tip is the Big Dawg. A close second is a Premier H built to 9'.
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| No question, legend elite 9 heavy. After using a big nasty and some other top of line rods, I love the st croix elite. Had thorne bros convert to 18 cork handles. Awesome!! |
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| I like that 9'6" asault Stick-Hulbert Rod for big blades with a TranX. Figure 8 dream rod. |
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| 5th lake brad- your comment "I feel anyone recommending anything but st Croix is inevitably using price as a factor to determine the best rods. I'm assuming you're looking for the best for the job, not best bang for a buck." is way off base. I recommended the 10'6" xxh TI because it is better than the big nasty for big blades in my opinion. I have two of each. The TI is better at throwing and figure eights with big blades in spite of the fact that the blanks cost about half as much. Don't get me wrong, the big nasty is a great rod, the TI 10'6" xxh is just better with big blades. |
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| Headlock - 7/24/2016 6:37 PM
I like that 9'6" Custom X for big blades with a TranX. Figure 8 dream rod.
I'll second this one...been using it more and more and it's starting to get more use over the big nasty for this application. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | By figure 8 dream rod on the Custom X, I assume that means it doesn't overly flex and slow you down? As in let's say, the Slingblade?
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Location: Gilberts IL/Rhinelander WI | musky513 - 7/24/2016 11:38 PM
5th lake brad- your comment "I feel anyone recommending anything but st Croix is inevitably using price as a factor to determine the best rods. I'm assuming you're looking for the best for the job, not best bang for a buck." is way off base. I recommended the 10'6" xxh TI because it is better than the big nasty for big blades in my opinion. I have two of each. The TI is better at throwing and figure eights with big blades in spite of the fact that the blanks cost about half as much. Don't get me wrong, the big nasty is a great rod, the TI 10'6" xxh is just better with big blades.
Cool, glad you found a rod you like, it was just an opinion, and I've been wrong before. |
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| 5th lake Brad - 7/25/2016 12:13 PM
musky513 - 7/24/2016 11:38 PM
5th lake brad- your comment "I feel anyone recommending anything but st Croix is inevitably using price as a factor to determine the best rods. I'm assuming you're looking for the best for the job, not best bang for a buck." is way off base. I recommended the 10'6" xxh TI because it is better than the big nasty for big blades in my opinion. I have two of each. The TI is better at throwing and figure eights with big blades in spite of the fact that the blanks cost about half as much. Don't get me wrong, the big nasty is a great rod, the TI 10'6" xxh is just better with big blades.
Cool, glad you found a rod you like, it was just an opinion, and I've been wrong before.
I don't think you are wrong. It is just a preference. My preference is St. Croix. I've never held a TI rod that I liked. Something always felt "off" about them when in my hands. Yet I don't think I've held a Croix that I didn't instantly like. All about personal preference. |
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| For me the 9'8' Predator XH is perfect , I usually have 6-7 rods in the boat ..it's what I grab every time for 9's, 10's or 13's |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Try a TI Musky XH rod. Perfect for big blades!!
https://tackleindustries.com/product-category/musky_pike_bass_walley...
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| 9' -9'6" predator XH, if you're talking 9's and up.
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| What Predator rods are you guys talking about? Cabelas? Thorne Bros? Fenwick?
I personally have been throwing TI 8'6" rods for a few years now. I throw the XH Mag for Everything. Including Super Models. I was throwing the Super Model with the XXH Mag but found it wasn't necessary. I team this up with a Tranx PG.
I tend to spend my money on reels. I've never spent more than probably $150 on a rod. I might be missing out. |
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| For a stock rod I doubt you can do any better than a big nasty. If you want the perfect rod for you custom is the only route. If I was building my perfect big blade rod it would be a 9'8" Thornes XH predator. 16" handle and I would go with Torzite guides. THey are crazy expensive but so much nicer and lighter. The Predator H with 2 inches or so off the tip is great for bigger blades unless you need the ability for speed at the side of the boat. Mine falls on its face a bit with 10s in the 8. I use it for supermodels at low light/dark when I am making slow smooth 8s but I don't care for it when it comes to day time use and supers.
However the H is a far more comfortable rod in hand over the course of a long day but I think the torzites on the XH would mitigate that. If you really like the nasty have a custom builder make you a custom nasty with your preferred handle length, material, and guide set. The Nasty and the Predator XH have very similar stiffness at the top of the rod with the main difference being the Predator series has a more parabolic action than the very fast action legend tournaments. I prefer the action of the predators but I can see how many people like the faster action of the LT series. |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | 9'6" TI |
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Location: mercer wi | Nasty or 9'h elite |
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Location: Minnesota | Im tacking a bought Thorn Bros predator .custom built by Lonnie .
Thorn Bros was the original others trying to make money off the name |
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Location: Land of the Musky | PS-Don't forget to try Nick with Jawbreaker Custom rods if your looking. He has all brands of blanks he can build on. He also had the new 96, 10 and 106 Tackle Industries TI blanks.
https://www.facebook.com/jawbreakercustoms/
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| Love my big nasty and PG tranx for big blades. To me its the ultimate all around rig for just about anything except jerk baits.
That being said i also have an XH predator from thornes in 9' 6" Length. I actually prefer the big nasty in this application as the predator is too soft for me in the tip at boatside with the big stuff. Its all in what you prefer , but there is definitely a difference in hookup for me. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | You can take my opinion FWIW, but after pricing out a Predator Rod at over $500 (yikes), I opted to go with the TI Rod.
I used a Big Nasty for 5 years I think...After using the TI Rod last week extensively on 10s and 9s, there's absolutely no reason I can justify spending double that to get a Big Nasty. I am anything but cheap , but I strongly feel there is no way there should be a $200 gap between the rods that seemingly function the same. You are paying extra for the paint job and logo in my opinion |
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Location: Minnesota | The big difference is where the rods are made USA rods cost more to make then rods made in china. Both good rods but its where they are made. It makes me upset my chevy was built in mexico but cheaper laber. Every one complains when jobs leave the USA. But they keep buying made in china and other countries. It might not be in my life time but america will go down the drain.every one wants big money but dont spend it on goods that are made here |
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Location: Wisconsin | Made in the USA should have more of a buying influence that what it does, a Big Nasty can be had in the 200-275 range in almost new condition on the second hand market. |
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| Sorry..... but nothing compare's to a big nasty or sling blade to other rod companies that manufacture's in bulk. Yes, custom rod makers such as Thorne Bro's and Migizi to name a few make world class rods, but they are more expensive. Guys are going to chime in that didn't buy a SC but went with a other manufacturer and tell you that they are just as good. Yes there are other bulk rod manufactures out there and they do make good rods, but they do not compare to a SC. |
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| bbradley - 8/17/2016 12:37 PM Sorry..... but nothing compare's to a big nasty or sling blade to other rod companies that manufacture's in bulk. Yes, custom rod makers such as Thorne Bro's and Migizi to name a few make world class rods, but they are more expensive. Guys are going to chime in that didn't buy a SC but went with a other manufacturer and tell you that they are just as good. Yes there are other bulk rod manufactures out there and they do make good rods, but they do not compare to a SC. Thorne Bro Predators are SC's... |
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| The best rod on the market and its not even close is the Throne Bros Predator series which comes from a SC blank. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | bbradley - 8/17/2016 12:37 PM
Guys are going to chime in that didn't buy a SC but went with a other manufacturer and tell you that they are just as good. .
Aren't you basically doing the same here?
If you have ever extensively used the TI rod in question, and can point to some specifics that justify 2x the cost, then I am all ears.
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| Which TI rod were you using Brian? |
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Location: MN | This isn't the 1970's there are a lot of great rods out there from a number of manufactures; all do a fine job tossing baits. I'm thankful for the variety of choices I have, I think I have 4 different rod companies in my collection. |
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| Thorne Bros Heavy Predator w/ 2" off the tip - I will never own another rod for blades after getting one of these. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Dave8121 - 8/17/2016 2:22 PM
Which TI rod were you using Brian?
I bought the one that earlier in the thread James suggested, and a couple of my friends suggested, the 9' XH.
....on a side note, the Telescopic 10'6" was a monster on throwing 8's. I could toss them
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Location: Madison, WI | I have a TI 9' xh and a 9" ti xxh.
I would definitely recommend the xxh for 9's and up if you dont want to fight the rod in the 8.
get heavier bucktails like rabska blades, pond fork blades, shpanky's, or shmadsons and the xxh is great.
a 9' rod is great for blades until you try 9'6". i'd bet that continues to be true for 10' and 10'6" |
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Location: Manitowish Waters WI | Tackle Industries - 8/1/2016 7:13 AM
PS-Don't forget to try Nick with Jawbreaker Custom rods if your looking. He has all brands of blanks he can build on. He also had the new 96, 10 and 106 Tackle Industries TI blanks.
https://www.facebook.com/jawbreakercustoms/
James
My jawbreaker 9'6 on the TI xh blank is a dream. |
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| A cheaper alternative to custom or legend t's or elites, would be 8'"6 H premier . Worth every penny in this sport |
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| Musky Brian - 7/25/2016 10:34 AM
By figure 8 dream rod on the Custom X, I asume that means it doesn't overly flex and slow you down? As in let's say, the Slingblade?
Exactly. Have them all. Slingblade makes a perfect night bucktail rod or a great crankbait rod. Hulbert Rod is what I use. Not Custom X. |
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| RunNGun - 8/17/2016 2:37 PM
Thorne Bros Heavy Predator w/ 2" off the tip - I will never own another rod for blades after getting one of these.
This has my vote. My H -2 Predator is my favorite rod. |
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| You should still have the ultimate big blade rod. |
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Perfect Rod for Big Blades