Newbie GoPro Help
SteveV
Posted 7/10/2016 6:15 PM (#823181)
Subject: Newbie GoPro Help




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OK folks, help out an older, technologically challenged guy here.

Looking to pick up a GoPro for Canada this year.

Questions: Which model? Is the black overkill?

Mount: Chest or Hat?

Settings: What settings for recording? I would prefer to not be swapping out cards all the time, but also would like to capture some nice footage.

Card: Bigger the better?

Battery backup: What brand is recommended?

Thanks for the help!

Steve
Muskie Gal
Posted 7/10/2016 6:36 PM (#823182 - in reply to #823181)
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I am very interested as well.
sworrall
Posted 7/10/2016 6:52 PM (#823183 - in reply to #823181)
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SteveV - 7/10/2016 6:15 PM

OK folks, help out an older, technologically challenged guy here.

Looking to pick up a GoPro for Canada this year.

Questions: Which model? Is the black overkill? OutdoorsFIRST uses Anart brand WIFI enabled cameras, great cameras under $100 with a soft case and all the mounts, two years on them now with zero issues. Also use a couple VIO POV cameras. More wires, but sweet units. A Go Pro will be equivalent feature for feature. Great cameras as well.

Mount: Chest or Hat? Hat. We like the perspective better. We also mount two in the boat running off the boat power.
Settings: What settings for recording? I would prefer to not be swapping out cards all the time, but also would like to capture some nice footage. 720P is plenty, and is easier/faster to edit for most. We shoot 1080 60fps for production stuff and edit on machines designed for that purpose (16 to 32 gigs ram and i7 processor to keep the process fast) using Adobe Premier Pro CC.

Card: Bigger the better? 32 gig class 10 (Important to be class 10 for HD video), never had any issues. With 64 gig, we have

Battery backup: What brand is recommended? We use a portable battery pack that is connected to the hat with Velcro, small and light, that powers the camera for about 6 hours. My 2 cents worth!

Thanks for the help!  Hope this helps you, SteveV.

Steve
jwegs
Posted 7/10/2016 10:08 PM (#823196 - in reply to #823181)
Subject: RE: Newbie GoPro Help




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PM me!
Randy
Posted 7/10/2016 11:31 PM (#823204 - in reply to #823196)
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Location: South Central Wisconsin
Steve, can you put up a link to the correct cameras? Thanks
timhutson1
Posted 7/11/2016 1:24 AM (#823207 - in reply to #823181)
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1. Black is overkill. I recommend the silver.

2. Hat. I mount my on a ball cap and keep it Tight. I could give you more details if interested.

3. 5 or 20 minute loop setting. 1080p and 60 FPS. I like the good quality and appreciate being able to slow it way down to see the head shakes, etc.

4. Yes, up to 64GB. I recommend buying the 64GB cards. I use sandisk Pro, Extreme and Ultra. Recommend the Extreme.

5. Call me paranoid but I will not use external power since the case isn't completely waterproof. I also like being able to dunk it under to catch cool release shots. I use GoPro, Wasabi, and Smartree. All work about equally well so go with the cheap ones that come with chargers that can charge 3 batteries at once. It means, less outlets to find. I use 6-7 in a long day but like to have a couple more as back-up.
SteveV
Posted 7/11/2016 8:08 AM (#823214 - in reply to #823181)
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Tim, and others, which mount for a ball cap do you recommend. Looks like there are some hats that are made for mounting (they look like they would be hot to wear?) and others that mount on the bill. The headband would be awful to wear for a week straight, I think.

Thanks again,

Steve
Nick59
Posted 7/11/2016 8:46 AM (#823217 - in reply to #823181)
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Location: MN
Steve I have a couple GoPro's.
What model Arant are you using?
G3?

Thanks,
Nick
FlyPiker
Posted 7/11/2016 7:20 PM (#823312 - in reply to #823181)
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Just getting into my GoPro, thanks to a fantastic Fathers Day. I do have way too much time on my hands and can say the videos on YouTube from a chest mount are a lot less vomit inducing than the head rigs.
Nick59
Posted 7/12/2016 6:37 AM (#823333 - in reply to #823312)
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FlyPiker - 7/11/2016 7:20 PM

Just getting into my GoPro, thanks to a fantastic Fathers Day. I do have way too much time on my hands and can say the videos on YouTube from a chest mount are a lot less vomit inducing than the head rigs.



lol
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/12/2016 7:56 AM (#823341 - in reply to #823333)
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Use the GoPro app, as well. Completely changes the ease of use of the camera.
jaultman
Posted 7/12/2016 8:16 AM (#823343 - in reply to #823312)
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FlyPiker - 7/11/2016 7:20 PM

Just getting into my GoPro, thanks to a fantastic Fathers Day. I do have way too much time on my hands and can say the videos on YouTube from a chest mount are a lot less vomit inducing than the head rigs.

I've never watched a chest-mount-filmed video worth watching. You can't see jack with the user's arms in the way the whole time.
timhutson1
Posted 7/12/2016 10:17 AM (#823361 - in reply to #823214)
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Here is a video of mine using the hat mount. I think it works pretty well. A bit jumpy but not too bad after running it through the GoPro editing software.

https://youtu.be/jahU_xq6KGs

I use a ballcap and put a screw through the cap to attach a tripod mount. Link below.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0126KXDN2/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=...

The screw is a 1/4"-20 x1/2 long. On the underside of the bill I use a star washer because it really bites into the material of the hat and prevents loosening. Another washer over that to act as a spacer to allow for a tight fit. It is also worth noting that you should use a hat with an adjustable strap and a sturdy clasp (not the common snapback type).

It is important that you look at the location of the Gopro in the case on the hat before drilling your hole. It needs to me as far back on bill as possible, otherwise it is too heavy and wants to pull the hat off your head. I will try to post pictures soon, but I have been busy packing for my week long trip at LOTW.
timhutson1
Posted 7/12/2016 10:41 AM (#823362 - in reply to #823361)
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OK, take a look at this video. It shows one of the hat mounts I made (my partner wears one too).

https://youtu.be/b24sIt73X4E
Long TIme Lurker
Posted 7/12/2016 12:43 PM (#823376 - in reply to #823181)
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We use the hat mount. A buddy has the chest, it's great if you want to watch a fishing reel turn.

We have a bunch of 32 gig cards and just swap them as we catch fish. New fish new card.

Still not the best with the editing software. We use the gopro stuff.

https://youtu.be/HbYuch4rHfY
sworrall
Posted 7/12/2016 1:57 PM (#823394 - in reply to #823217)
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Nick59 - 7/11/2016 8:46 AM

Steve I have a couple GoPro's.
What model Arant are you using?
G3?

Thanks,
Nick


Nick,
We have these:
ANART® Ex Series An-ExC Full HD 1080P 12MP 2.0 inch Sport Camera

And have this one on order:
ANART® 4K Sports Camera HD 1080P 60 Wifi Waterproof 170 Wide Angle Dual Screen

Should have both at the Spring Bay Outing next month if you want to try them out.

We dremel a hole in a dry case and install a power cord for external power, then re-seal it with silicone sealant for rainy conditions. I wouldn't submerge it in deep water, but it's dry in a downpour.

As far as the hat mount, we tie strap the mounting plate provided with the camera to the cap bill and it's good to go.
Nick59
Posted 7/12/2016 2:31 PM (#823399 - in reply to #823181)
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Location: MN
Thanks for the info Steve.
Still counting down to the 'Outing'
sworrall
Posted 7/12/2016 5:39 PM (#823415 - in reply to #823399)
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Me too, and so is Susan. Looking forward to the camp fish fry, everyone will have to pitch in! We have a full house at Spring Bay this trip.
Nick59
Posted 7/13/2016 7:04 AM (#823439 - in reply to #823415)
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Location: MN
sworrall - 7/12/2016 5:39 PM

Me too, and so is Susan. Looking forward to the camp fish fry, everyone will have to pitch in! We have a full house at Spring Bay this trip.


We know where to collect some pan fish. lol
SteveV
Posted 7/13/2016 10:37 PM (#823569 - in reply to #823181)
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Thanks to all for the help.

Picked up a GoPro Silver, external battery pack and external microphone. Going with the hat mount.

Now all we need is for some nice fish to star on camera!

Steve
Houlip
Posted 7/14/2016 5:11 AM (#823586 - in reply to #823569)
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Location: Neenah wi
Is the 200$ go pro worth it? Have 200$ gift card for cabelas been debating the idea. Just used the other 400$ gift cards on a beast.
Nick59
Posted 7/14/2016 7:16 AM (#823598 - in reply to #823181)
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Location: MN
You can get factory refurbished Gopro 3+ Silver on ebay for $160 with warranty.
VonBraun
Posted 9/15/2016 2:49 PM (#830510 - in reply to #823376)
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Long TIme Lurker - 7/12/2016 12:43 PM

We use the hat mount. A buddy has the chest, it's great if you want to watch a fishing reel turn.

We have a bunch of 32 gig cards and just swap them as we catch fish. New fish new card.

Still not the best with the editing software. We use the gopro stuff.

https://youtu.be/HbYuch4rHfY
Why new card? just use the looping feature on 5 or 25 minute loop and edit down/together with something like videopad? I only have one 64gb card and other than the day that the looping feature failed, it covered me all week.
talmooner
Posted 9/15/2016 4:41 PM (#830516 - in reply to #823181)
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Mr. Worrall,

How did the new ANART® 4K Sports Camera HD 1080P 60 Wifi Waterproof 170 Wide Angle Dual Screen work out?

Can you offer some pros and cons as compared to the other ANART cam you already had?

If you were to buy another camera, which would you get?

Thanks for your feedback.

Talmooner
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 9/15/2016 5:00 PM (#830517 - in reply to #830516)
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Location: St. Lawrence River
I've ordered an anart sj4000 1080 12. The price was too good to pas up. Then the more you think, all that for under $50??? We will see.
Brad P
Posted 9/19/2016 9:31 AM (#830769 - in reply to #823181)
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What do guys use for pole mounts? IE a tall pole for that perspective that is looking down on the water/casters. Is that a custom set up or is it something you can buy?
sworrall
Posted 9/19/2016 10:43 AM (#830779 - in reply to #830516)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
talmooner - 9/15/2016 4:41 PM

Mr. Worrall,

How did the new ANART® 4K Sports Camera HD 1080P 60 Wifi Waterproof 170 Wide Angle Dual Screen work out?

Can you offer some pros and cons as compared to the other ANART cam you already had?

If you were to buy another camera, which would you get?

Thanks for your feedback.

Talmooner


No issues so far. For our use though, mostly preparing video for the web, the 1080 wifi is a great camera.
Muskie Gal
Posted 9/20/2016 2:45 PM (#830907 - in reply to #830517)
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JakeStCroixSkis - 9/15/2016 5:00 PM

I've ordered an anart sj4000 1080 12. The price was too good to pas up. Then the more you think, all that for under $50??? We will see.


Please post a review. There is a Monster camera at sams club for around a 100 with lots of extras.
sworrall
Posted 9/20/2016 3:15 PM (#830909 - in reply to #830907)
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Shot entirely with a year and a half old Anart 1080P WIFI model earlier this Summer. We have both the WIFI and non WIFI models. Keith was having fun messing with me...

Keep in mind OFM serves the video at 640X360.

sworrall
Posted 9/20/2016 3:59 PM (#830916 - in reply to #830909)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
My set for Ice.

Keith has a similar set for Ice and open water. I also still use a VIO POV a lot during the open water. If we are not wearing the camera, we power it from a USB power pack, which will allow one to shoot all day.

With two batteries per camera, and 5 soft cases and mounts, I have about $350 in all this stuff. For some reason, they even sent extra waterproof housings.


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Yami Scott
Posted 9/21/2016 2:51 PM (#830987 - in reply to #823181)
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I have a SJcam from B&H as there were some knock offs.. I just ordered one that Steve had in the picks as well. $60 can't beat it. Batteries look to me all the same as well.

SJCAM came out with a motorcycle case for they cameras where you can charge and record at the same time. BRILLIANT as now with a battery back in your back or side pocket and a cable, you can record until your card is full. Not sure all these cams would fit in there (im sure they would). I watched another guy take apart a USB cable and use the same case which I am going to do.
jonnysled
Posted 9/21/2016 5:24 PM (#831005 - in reply to #830987)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
i just got the one steve referenced too and looking forward to playing around with it ... i asume most have 2 or 3 set up at the same time in the boat? i'm hoping to be proficient enough to film some king salmon outings next summer.
sworrall
Posted 9/22/2016 9:37 AM (#831049 - in reply to #831005)
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I run one on a rail mount on each side of the boat and a POV mount for each angler, plus a bow/stern camera if we need one. The rail mount cameras are powered by weather proof motorcycle USB ports I ran to the rails. Keith set up a fishin' cap with a small power pack, which will run his for a few hours.

I also run a bow and stern camera mounted to a pole, powered with an Excel-Outdoors Power Plug.


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