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Location: Kalamazoo, MI | Have any of you guys run into this? Recently my ABU C4 IAR bearing started slipping. I figured, no problem, ill use the daiwa cvx in the meantime, order up the parts for the ABU, and get it all squared away. Well, that lasted for about an hour, then the daiwa IAR bearing started slipping as well. Both went while working a baby shallow raider. Granted, the daiwa probably wasnt made for that sort of thing, and I do tend to twitch the lure quite a lot, but I never expected the ABU to take a dive on me like that. Is this pretty common, or am I just good at blowing out IAR bearings? Are there any reels that are less succeptable to this? |
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Location: NeverNever Lake | Get used to it, especially if you do alot of slack line twitching. I got 4 Calcuttas including a 400TE. I go through several AR bearings every season. The major enemies are dirt, water, and yes, Lube. These tiny rollers need to get a good grip on that sleeve(that's metal to metal). I would try cleaning it first and if that doesn't work replace it. If it squeals you can put a tiny drop of oil on the sleeve and rub it on, but basically it's a dry bearing. Stiff rods, no stretch line, heavy baits w/slack line twitching = bearing failure.
Try www.southwesternparts.com. They have schematics for almost every reel and you can order the parts right off of them in the box beside it. |
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Location: Lafayette, IN | I've been told by the Shimano techs (at the support and parts hotline) you are NOT to lube the AR bearings at all. I'd advise any of you having problems with these bearings to contact your factory support hotline regardless of brand and verify this info. I've never replaced an AR bearing on any of my reels. Only an occasional pinion gear and AR pawl. FYI |
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| I had problems with mine in the cold last year. Talked to Chuck Brod from Sportsmans Repair at one of the shows and he said that he is using a new lube that is less affected by the cold and moisture. He added that 99% of all IAR problems are lube related. He didn't say anything about no lube on the IAR bearing. Just info for you guys.
Scott
Edited by theedz155 6/18/2003 7:06 AM
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Location: oswego, il | I had it happen to my calcutta the first year i bought it. Had it fixed and never had the problem again. As raze pointed out hard slack line twitches and jerks can play havock on that bearing. |
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Location: Kalamazoo, MI | I have no doubt its the twitching that caused it, even though the lure i normally work is just a small lure (baby shallow raider). I dont twitch it THAT hard I dont think. Regardless, I had also been lubing the roller bearing, so perhaps I will stop doing that and try it, or just give it a drop or two of rocket fuel and call it good instead of greasing it. I was just surprised to find that I managed to go through two different reels in one night due to the same symptoms.
Does anyone have any experience with the Shimano Cardiff? I am thinking of picking one up and giving it a shot. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Bad thing about all reels: they break. Good thing about Garcia, they fix or replace all your broken reels. I have found that 100% of the time that I have sent reels in to them, I have a turn-around time of exactly 7 days. Dont have the co. info (where to send it) but someone must have it, or its on the website.
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Location: Kalamazoo, MI | Slamr: To be perfectly honest, I hadnt even considered sending it to them. They will cover stuff like that also? Where it is just pretty much every day wear? I assume theyd charge you shipping? |
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Location: Lafayette, IN | Spieg, To further demostrate how badly the reputable companies want your tackle business... I have a Shimano Bantam Mag Plus 250. It's about 20 years old. The pinion gear went bad 2 years ago and at the same time I had a Shimano spinning reel with a bad bail spring. I called their parts number and they sent me (free of charge) the new bail spring AND my pinion gear probably because they knew I was a loyal customer who will spend more money in the future. These guys want your business BAD! Give em' your problem and see if they'll treat YOU like you're the customer... ....and catch another fish for those of us who haven't. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Nope, 98% of the work has been done free of charge.
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Location: Eau Claire, WI | Here's my .02 cents... I don't run a reel repair business nor am I an engineer for Shimano but I do do my own reel maintenance and I think at last count I have about a dozen various Garcia C4's & C5's as well as other brands. Some are 5+ seasons old and have seen use 3-4 days per week for 6 months of the year.
Each winter I take apart my reels completely and clean, inspect and re-lube them. Guess I didn't know that you weren't suppose to lube the IAR bearings... I must have been doing it wrong for all these years because I always have a put a thin coat of grease on the rollers. I have never had one fail (knock on wood) and they work just fine. I have been known to frequently "rip-twitch" Big Jakes, Ernies, and do some pretty severe shock loading to my reels. I guess until I have a problem I'll continue to do what I"ve been doing, right wrong or indifferent. |
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