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Location: Minnesota. | Just curious, I like the reg. sized Suicks (alot!!) but recently bought a muskie spin rod just for smaller baits and will try some smaller sized Suicks etc. just for fun.
Anyone have much luck with the smaller sized jerkbaits such as the 7" Suicks etc? Have a pref. in smalls if not a Suick?
Thanks. I've always wanted to change it up a bit and my son got me into thinking this... |
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Location: one foot over the line | Love that 7 incher in the early part of the season. If I'm not throwing it, it is hooked up on another rod and within easy reach. Plenty of low-mid 40's on that lure. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | One of my favorite lures. I've gotten everything on it - muskie, pike and bass. I like to work it around weeds mimicking the movements of injured, lost, dying, escaping minnows. Have fun playing with it and imaging various prey like movements as you work it. I got a 40" last year on it that I saw first raising her back in the shallow weeds. I casted about 3-4 feet in back and to the side of her and then made two or three quick jerks and a pause to look like a frantic bait fish coming right in front of her. She engulfed it and the made a torpedo run out of he weeds to my boat in deeper water. |
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Location: MN | My grandfather caught a lot of fish on the 7" not always Muskies. This post makes me think I should have a few. I don't think suick makes a bad bait period. Everything they put out is pretty effective. |
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Location: Minnesota. | Thanks for the feedback. I relented for a long time since I have box FULL of the larger Suicks, 9" and 10" ers...after taking my PB a couple seasons back.
I think I'll play around some this year...always a good thing. I'll post if it turns out to be productive. |
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| Jeremy - 3/20/2016 1:07 PM
Thanks for the feedback. I relented for a long time since I have box FULL of the larger Suicks, 9" and 10" ers...after taking my PB a couple seasons back.
I think I'll play around some this year...always a good thing. I'll post if it turns out to be productive.
7 inch Suicks work great, as do the many other jerkbaits that are between (1.5 to 4) oz. I never throw anything bigger than 4 oz. I haven't caught a 50" or 60", but have caught enough in the 20+ pond range. |
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| What leader do you guys use with the seven inch long Suicks? The reason that I ask is that it seems to me that too heavy of a leader might cause the bait to become very nose-heavy. On the other hand, I've always used fairly heavy, single strand wire leaders on my larger Suicks to get some side to side action on the dive/rise. |
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Location: MN | I think Steve and his Son use the 7" a fair bit maybe they can chime in. I think Im going to use a thinner single strand maybe 140. |
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Location: Minnesota. | NathanH - 3/23/2016 1:07 PM
I think Steve and his Son use the 7" a fair bit maybe they can chime in. I think Im going to use a thinner single strand maybe 140.
I hope they do!
I gave a bit of thought too and since I do a fair bit of flyfishing for "teeth" I'm thinking of using my braided, supple, knot-able wire (27lb.) to make a leader to suit.
Guessing a small split ring on the tail end for my Power Pro line and a loop-knot to the bait itself. If I find I'm wanting to switch often I'll just leave the loop-knot attached to the bait. Very lightweight and - length to suit, depending on how the bait swims. |
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| BornToFish1 - 3/23/2016 1:55 PM
What leader do you guys use with the seven inch long Suicks? The reason that I ask is that it seems to me that too heavy of a leader might cause the bait to become very nose-heavy. On the other hand, I've always used fairly heavy, single strand wire leaders on my larger Suicks to get some side to side action on the dive/rise.
~ 16" 80# fluorocarbon with a snap at the bait, runs great. |
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| Does anyone and a 2nd split ring to the hooks? Just sharpened the hooks, and the pivot of each hook seems quite rigid. Just don't want to give the fish any more advantage. |
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| The 7" Suick is the only lure that I hooked two muskies at the same time. Working some cabbage one summer morning & worked through an opening in the thick stuff, nothing. Casted beyond that opening to another little pocket and hooked up with a upper 20ish fish. Brought it through the other opening that I had already worked and all hell broke loose. The bigger fish tried to take the Suick out of the smaller ones mouth! The bigger fish won out much to my delight! It was a nice 41" ended up being the best fish of the week that trip! |
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Location: SE Wisc | Stealth Tackle makes a wire leader for small jerkbaits/gliders. I think it’s called their “spring” leader and I would think that would work well for the 7” |
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| Ciscokid82 - 3/12/2018 7:33 PM
Stealth Tackle makes a wire leader for small jerkbaits/gliders. I think it’s called their “spring” leader and I would think that would work well for the 7”
Yep. That's the leader I use on them. Its the best leader I have found for small baits. Too big of leader kills the action on small baits. Stealth's spring leader is perfect for this.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com |
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| The longest Muskie I have ever caught was on a 7" Suick... and I have caught quite a few large Muskies when using them. Definitely a great lure... and I wouldn't want to be on Lake of the Woods in late July and early August without one. |
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Location: Pewaukee, WI | I'm looking to buy a chartreuse 7" Suick with black dots. Can be wtd. or non-wtd. |
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| Awesome little baits. Use a short piano wire leader and you’re set. I modify Suicks with extra weight in front of the first hook near the head (drill a hole and pour lead or add an egg simmer) and they get a very erratic action. My biggest problem with these baits is the hooks. Lost way too many fish using small hooks and it’s a delicate balance with upsizing as it’ll kill the action. Have tried lite wire hooks, short shank, longer shank. Currently use a lighter Gamagatsu hook, shorter shank, slightly ‘T’d’ with the points extending beyond the body of the bait. I don’t trust these hooks on larger fish so have to modify how I play a fish out.
If fish aren’t moving I throw these as I can get fish to show themselves a lot of times. |
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Location: Minnesota. | Esox1850 - 3/15/2018 1:12 PM
Awesome little baits. Use a short piano wire leader and you’re set. I modify Suicks with extra weight in front of the first hook near the head (drill a hole and pour lead or add an egg simmer) and they get a very erratic action. My biggest problem with these baits is the hooks. Lost way too many fish using small hooks and it’s a delicate balance with upsizing as it’ll kill the action. Have tried lite wire hooks, short shank, longer shank. Currently use a lighter Gamagatsu hook, shorter shank, slightly ‘T’d’ with the points extending beyond the body of the bait. I don’t trust these hooks on larger fish so have to modify how I play a fish out.
If fish aren’t moving I throw these as I can get fish to show themselves a lot of times.
Altho I've yet to do this I can understand the issue. I've sometimes thought of adding a couple of split rigs so those hooks can swing a bit to maybe get you a better "stick"?? Might be worth a try.
I haven't lost any fish yet but....if I do I'll play around with this.
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| Esox1850, do you mind sharing what gami hook model/size you are currently using? And what size drill bit, how deep and how close to head do you drill? |
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Location: Aurora | Love 7 inchers.
I run um stock, up-size the hooks, add a little weight to the head area, modify um by sawing the tail section off & adding a rubber tail (mini-dyin dawg style), and even turn 9 inchers into 7 inchers (see top bait below) for a thicker, stronger, easier to throw version. Wife got a 22" large mouth last year on the bottom one.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | NathanH - 3/23/2016 1:07 PM
I think Steve and his Son use the 7" a fair bit maybe they can chime in. I think Im going to use a thinner single strand maybe 140.
I use a .045 leader for the 7", or an 80# seven strand. Lighter line is better, 60 to 65#. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Esox1850 - 3/15/2018 1:12 PM
Awesome little baits. Use a short piano wire leader and you’re set. I modify Suicks with extra weight in front of the first hook near the head (drill a hole and pour lead or add an egg simmer) and they get a very erratic action. My biggest problem with these baits is the hooks. Lost way too many fish using small hooks and it’s a delicate balance with upsizing as it’ll kill the action. Have tried lite wire hooks, short shank, longer shank. Currently use a lighter Gamagatsu hook, shorter shank, slightly ‘T’d’ with the points extending beyond the body of the bait. I don’t trust these hooks on larger fish so have to modify how I play a fish out.
If fish aren’t moving I throw these as I can get fish to show themselves a lot of times.
I use a lighter outfit that is a bit more forgiving, much like the topwater rod I use for the 'Turd, which features a small treble stinger. That stinger has put a bunch of 30# plus muskies in the net for me, just don't tear it out. Same goes for the Suick in the smaller sizes. |
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| Interesting, back in the 70s, I caught my first "legal" musky on a 7" Suick and when I started fishing for them again after buying a place in N. WI, I threw it again. I was really disappointed in the action. Not what I remembered. Being slightly thick headed, I didn't think about how back in the day I had much lighter line, lighter rod. In fact the first one was on a super sized Zebco spin cast, seven foot medium rod, with 20# mono and a light leader. It was what I could afford but looking back it probably was a good combination for that light lure. |
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Location: Minnesota. | Sidejack - 3/16/2018 8:03 AM
Love 7 inchers.
I run um stock, up-size the hooks, add a little weight to the head area, modify um by sawing the tail section off & adding a rubber tail (mini-dyin dawg style), and even turn 9 inchers into 7 inchers (see top bait below) for a thicker, stronger, easier to throw version. Wife got a 22" large mouth last year on the bottom one.
These are pretty kool. I've bought a ton of Suicks and love 'em, then since I have a wood shop, I've made a few (Butternut) that were a bit bigger but never considered going smaller - until now.
Might try a few for that "fatter" option and larger hooks |
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| Here’s a pic, after looking at mine I actually add more weight behind the front hook and a smaller weight front of the hook near the head. I have experimented with weight sizes at the head with a screw in weight kit. I think a 1/8 weight near the head and a 3/8 behind the front hook is where I netted out.
I do have a few unweighted as these ones are for more heavily weeded situations where that bait will back out and rise quickly when making contact with weeds. But I prefer the action on my weighted 7”ers.
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