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| seems like every musky show that I see with Bill Sandy ,, he is always casting a double #10 with nickle blades and a black tail and he catches lotsa fish !! --- justsaying --- jim |
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Location: NE Ohio | i've seen him hammer them on dbl 10's with green blades and black tail and always gets them on the 8! |
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| I've seen him get them on crane baits too. |
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| A season or two ago, Saric asked him about that and he said he just ties on a bucktail and throws it until it falls apart and color wasn't that big of an issue for him. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Black n nickel is a monster, especially on LOTW. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Location, location, location.... |
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Location: Madison | It looked like he was using a Curado 300 to bring in the blades. I didn't know it was possible to reel in dbl 10's with anything less than a Tranx. |
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| I noticed the Curado too. |
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Location: MN | 4reukmuskies - 2/21/2016 10:17 PM
A season or two ago, Saric asked him about that and he said he just ties on a bucktail and throws it until it falls apart and color wasn't that big of an issue for him.
I remember that show and how hard Saric tried to get Sandy to say that color was important (that was the theme of the show that week) and Bill just wouldn't |
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Location: Wisconsin | I think I heard Bill say, on one of the shows, that colors can get hot, but usually only last for a few days. Tom |
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| I think we are all talking about the same show and I remember Bill saying yes, a lot of time he just throws on a bucktail and fishes it until it falls apart.
I've seen him throw silver on silver.
My favorite part was when he said ... "Some people really like to fish the wind. I don't like to fish a lot of wind personally."
I about fell off the couch laughing when he said that. Because I know we have gotten pounded on LOTW trying to fish the wind, and there is Billy probably hiding out in some bay fishing the slop on a super wind day! |
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| Spence Petros wrote about Bill Sandy's dislike of fishing in the wind in an article. Said that Sandy will try and find a sheltered bay rather than fishing wind blown points. Petros likes fishing points, structure with wind on them, but noted that Sandy has success with his method as well. |
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| Doug Johnson tends to avoid the wind too ... About 15 years ago I was fishing with him and it was a winding day .. every island we pulled up to we would only fish the side out of the wind (many islands on LOTW are several acres in size) ... When I ask him about the wind his response was " Well do you think the muskies know the wind is blowing on the other side of this island and they are going to travel over there to feed" ? A good spot is a good spot. Personally I feel wind can make a good spot better, his comments did make me "re-think" some of my strategies.. Because boat control and hitting the "spot on the spot" is key on LOTW... Heck sometime it take multiple casts to the exact same spot to make a fish move or even the "correct" angle cast! .... One of the reason I love the lake so many patterns..so many spots!!! |
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| I agree with Bill on the subject of wind ,,,, I stopped "survival fishing" in lightning storms, tornado warnings, high winds, sleet, down pouring rain and sub-freezing temps years ago and now I really enjoy my time on the water !! ------ jim |
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Location: oswego, il | I am surprised Sandy was using a curado. I would think it would get lost in his bear paws. |
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| I love his approach and attitude.
I have a buddy who fishes in my boat often. He is a great guy but is always rambling on and on about moving to this edge or that spot or this bait or that bait.
I usually respond with a "Just shut up and keep casting". Lol. |
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Location: Leech Lake, Walker MN | Ya know its catching them where you find them we always have to keep looking
And working hard |
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| Propster....I thought the same thing when I watched it. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | I've seen Sandy stick a few nice ones on topraiders as well. |
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| Probably the same topraider he always uses... Talk about a downer for a sponsor driven show huh... BTW, anyone needs some bucktails? Looks like my hobby of making em is now useless. |
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Location: Illinois | I can't remember for sure, but didn't Saric try to mention moon phases and Sandy just kind of made mention that he doesn't pay much attention to that either?
Along with monster hands, I think Bill's forearms are probably as big as Jim's legs! What a beast! |
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| You are correct. Saric asked about moon phases and Sandy stated that he is out every day and yeah sometimes good fishing coincides with moon phase and if you believe in that, etc, etc., etc. But what it boiled down to was he was going fishing and didn't really put a lot of stock in moon phase. |
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Location: Scandia MN | There was an episode of Trev Gowdy's monster fish show with Bill Sandy where they built their own bucktails while picking the spinner colors blindfolded. I took that to mean Mr. Sandy had no particular preference in that area. Found that interesting - turns out pink was the used successfully in that particular instance. Who Knew - - - - |
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| For me, and some of my friends, the spot (or location) has always been more important than lure choice. A neighbor of mine once told me: Just keep your lure wet! |
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Location: Contrarian Island | color is always an interesting discussion... while I do agree the spot and timing on the spot are more important at times we have seen a preference for certain colors... I've been to lotw 4 weeks and I bet 90% of my fish are on chartreuse blades...I have not caught a single fish on nickel and black and might not have even thrown it and I'd put my boats results up against anyones.... so what does that mean? throw what you have confidence in.... I throw black blades a lot when it's cloudy up there or in clearer water and I throw chartreuse when it's sunny or when the water is dirtier and I do very well from what I can tell from others I know that go there... |
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| For me, and some of my friends, the spot (or location) has always been more important than lure choice. A neighbor of mine once told me: Just keep your lure wet! |
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Location: Contrarian Island | ooops double post |
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| For me, and some of my friends, the spot (or location) has always been more important than lure choice. A neighbor of mine once told me: Just keep your lure wet! |
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| Apologies for the triple post. Been fishing LOTW for 28 years, with some very good anglers (some are considered legendary, I dislike that term) and have been blessed to have a career that allows me to spend a good portion of the summer at my cabin there.
One common thing all those guys possess was the ability to find good spots. Today it's a lot easier with the invention of GPS, information sharing and schools. Prior to GPS we ran around with the map in our laps. It has always been about location first and foremost.
If someone has confidence in a bait throw the #*^@ thing till your shoulders fall off. But fish good complex spots.
Just my opinion. |
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| What I glean from Sandy's comments: Fish when you can, keep your lure wet, and maintain boat control. We aren't gonna catch em at home or if you're constantly changing baits, or being blown all over the place, no matter how good of a spot it is or what lure you have on. |
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Location: Illinois | From my experience, if a fish is ready, and you put the cast right on the spot, they're gonna eat. I'm not sure they take the time to analyze color or shape a whole lot. Most have had a fish hit a lure within the first 2 cranks. Movement has to be the only stimulus if they are in the mood to eat. IMO. |
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| Another observation on Bill is on his figure 8 fish he does not set back into them. He sets down and away and rarely loses one. |
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| Another observation on Bill is on his figure 8 fish he does not set back into them. He sets down and away and rarely loses one. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Natureboy - 2/23/2016 11:02 PM
From my experience, if a fish is ready, and you put the cast right on the spot, they're gonna eat. I'm not sure they take the time to analyze color or shape a whole lot. Most have had a fish hit a lure within the first 2 cranks. Movement has to be the only stimulus if they are in the mood to eat. IMO.
Depends where you fish
I'd say at a minimum 75% of the fish we boat on LOTW over 45" are caught at our feet.
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Location: Maplewood, MN | A lot of interesting points here. I too saw the episode. I've noticed that when throwing the same lure over and over, you can really fine tune your presentation. When I first started out, phantoms were my lure of choice. I moved a ton of fish on them.
Something that needs to be mentioned again is that this is Lake of the Woods. I've fished Lake of the Woods twice, and it is a magical place. Nearly everywhere that looks like it should have a fish, does. |
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