Keyes Outdoors Latest Episode Question
Storm Strike
Posted 2/12/2016 5:50 PM (#804498)
Subject: Keyes Outdoors Latest Episode Question




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Just watched the Green Bay Trolling episode....Good stuff on utube if you have not watched already..

I would like to set up my Skeeter MX 1825 with the same setup for trolling...

Do any of you guys know the rod holder mounts/rod holders he is using on his Skeeter MX2025 stern rails? Certainly the stern rails on the MX1825 and the MX2025 are the same diameter?

I'm guessing there the Folbes? But not certain---I would like to mount a similar setup on my Skeeter stern rails but do not know which parts to order...

Thanks in advance if any of you have the Skeeter diameter rails and have rod mounts on them---looking for his system or a similar system that can be mounted on rails.

Thanks in advance...

Edited by Storm Strike 2/12/2016 6:00 PM
horsehunter
Posted 2/12/2016 6:26 PM (#804503 - in reply to #804498)
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Location: Eastern Ontario
Folbes
Reef Hawg
Posted 2/12/2016 8:14 PM (#804521 - in reply to #804498)
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Location: north central wisconsin
They are the Large Folbe rod holders, with the rail adaptors. I love mine, on year 9. Drop me an email and I'll get you Joel's contact info.
Brad P
Posted 2/15/2016 9:36 AM (#804882 - in reply to #804498)
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Folbes are a composite material. I've been running mine for 4 seasons and have had them hold up to 16" Custom X, Supermodels at 5MPH, and Supernaturals (and other large cranks) run behind TX44 boards. The Folbes have never had an issue.
Muskydanno621
Posted 2/15/2016 11:52 AM (#804904 - in reply to #804882)
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I have a few buddies that run these. I like the way they operate overall and popping rod out is just as easy as on a salty. Only time i have seen them snap off is when drag is too tight. Because of that potential failure mode i stick with powder coated Salties. I think the one advantage of the Folbes is that they are easier on your cork though. Both great products.
esoxriebe
Posted 2/15/2016 1:32 PM (#804918 - in reply to #804904)
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I have hundreds if not thousands of hours trolling with both down Easters and Folbes. The only rod holders I have broke is the down Easters I bought six of them ten years ago and only 2 are left every time another one breaks I replace it with a folbe. The down Easters also do a lot of damage to the rod handle which has kept me buying less expensive trolling rods because they tear up cork and will indent foam handles too. I have got snags at 5 mph plus with Folbes and had reel malfunctions where the line dug into the spool and locked up and I am yet to break one.
Muskydanno621
Posted 2/16/2016 11:56 AM (#805070 - in reply to #804918)
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How do you break a down easter? Are they clamp mounts? Mine are rail mounts. The only wear item i see is the pin in the bottom. Never had an issue at all with mine and i put a god awful amount of hours on them.Like i said above they dig into the cork but thats about the only problem I've seen.
Lundbob
Posted 2/16/2016 1:32 PM (#805085 - in reply to #804498)
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Location: Duluth, MN
What make and model trolling boards do you guys use that will handle muskie baits?

Thanks
Will Schultz
Posted 2/16/2016 6:11 PM (#805126 - in reply to #804498)
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI
I would also like to know how you break a Downeast? Not saying you haven't but I want to know so I don't do it. Hitting a dock with one is the only way I've ever heard of anyone breaking one. I also want to know how they tear up cork, mine never touch anything but the reel seat.
MD75
Posted 2/16/2016 8:11 PM (#805150 - in reply to #804498)
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Location: Sycamore, IL
Down east rod holders break from using rods with too large of triggers on them, causing them to seat improperly. Use a triggerless trolling rod and you will not have any issues.
Muskydanno621
Posted 2/18/2016 12:00 PM (#805421 - in reply to #805150)
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Correct. Thats about the only way i could think of. You should never break one doing that. Its real easy to tell if the trigger gets in the way,there is no reason anyone should try to seat it like that anyway. If i remember right i have a few rods i have run into the interference issue on that i simply just didn't use in the holder. I like the Folbe slot for that reason, that is a good design. Still won't use a plastic/composite rod holder though and i am a molding engineer by trade ha ha. Just personal preference though they both function well.
jwelsh3
Posted 2/19/2016 6:22 AM (#805554 - in reply to #804498)
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Location: new lenox, il.
Down east rod holders break from using rods with too large of triggers on them, causing them to seat improperly. Use a triggerless trolling rod and you will not have any issues.
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Matt

I open up the trigger space a little bit with a die grinder. I have also removed some material on the side rails to make room for the gearcase on low profile reels.
esoxriebe
Posted 2/25/2016 1:30 AM (#807374 - in reply to #804498)
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Most of the downeasters that I have broke is from the pin bending and then the whole rod holder falls out of the the lower mount and usually ends up in the bottom of the lake. Another problem is you can not run them down and straight back in big wave if you want to prop wash a bait they will lift up on there own and you will lose your rod this has happened to me when they were mounted on the rails I have on my transom. It is not an abuse problem or from triggers it just happens after countless hours of use. I use mostly shimano trolling rods with foam handles and no triggers they do beat up handles on rods after a lot of hours it's not something that happens right away. They are a good product don't get me wrong about that I used them for a long time but I would put my money on Folbe rod holders reinforced nylon material to be stronger than alumininum pot metal all day.