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| This was copied from the Pelican Lake Property Owners Newsletter. If you care at all about muskie fishing in MN...you need to make your voice heard...this anti-muskie push has been gaining momentum the last year and it is not going away.
Stop Stocking Muskie Update
The Stop Stocking Muskies in Minnesota campaign continues to gain momentum. Dave Majkrzak reports that the effort has been endorsed by numerous lake associations, townships, chambers of commerce and cities. A group of PLPOA members concerned about the muskie issue have embarked on a campaign of sending emails, letters and otherwise attempting to contact Governor Dayton and Lt Governor Smith to step in and support this cause. If you would like to join this group and be brought up to date with current issues, please email PLPOA.
I originally thought this issue would smolder after a few months and go away...despite the effort to educate the masses that muskies co-habitat with other fish species and have for hundreds of years...the general public who don't fish do not care to hear the facts. We need voices heard!!! There is a huge push in MN right now to eliminate future stocking...this is new and existing muskie waters.
I will try to find the emails to Governor Dayton and Governor Smith...cuz if they are receiving emails from the "antis" but not those who support the program I am afraid we are doomed.
Thanks for your support!!!
Brett Waldera
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| http://mn.gov/governor/contact-us/form/
I sent an email. If I can locate his office # I will also call him.
This is total BS
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Location: Contrarian Island | you'd think the gov't would realize the $$ Millions of dollars of tourism money that comes into the state from musky guys ...
that alone should put an end to the anti's! 
Edited by BNelson 2/12/2016 2:19 PM
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| I wonder which townships, champers of commerce and cities have endorsed the stop stacking muskies campaign.
Maybe we should all join the lake association so we can be brought up to date on the current issues. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Do these lakes have any natural recruitment? Ontario stopped stocking muskies in the early 90's with the exception of trying to revive historical populations in Lake Simcoe and the Spanish River. My home lake was last stocked in 1972 and with catch and release and increased size limits the fishing is better than it ever was with probably 4 times the anglers we had 25 or 30 years ago. I'm also thinking that global warming will favour muskies over pike but that's a personal opinion with no scientific backing.
Edited by horsehunter 2/12/2016 3:25 PM
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Location: MN | You would think these cities and chamber of commerce's would be taking a look at it from a economic impact point of view. Does anyone know which cities and chambers are supporting this? I know I saw Perham Chamber in a previous article but haven't seen any others. I think the businesses that receive tourism money from muskie fisherman that come to their area to fish should be notified of the stance their chamber of commerce and city took on the issue.
I know I would be upset if I owned a hotel, motel, resort, gas station, bait shop, campground, restaurant etc etc in this area and my city and chamber of commerce were trying to eliminate part of my annual revenue.
Chambers are supposed to support local businesses right? This seems counterproductive. Eliminating the muskie fisheries in these communities is certainly not going to attract any more tourists to the area, quite the opposite actually.
Edited by Nershi 2/12/2016 3:44 PM
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| The Ottertail County Commission has requested a 5 year moratorium on muskie stocking after meeting with this group.
The DNR plan to have announced an additional lake has been put on hold after this anti group has gotten things stirred up.
The Fairmont City Council has also take action to disapprove stocking in that area.
You will see something happen this year on a bill go through...I anticipate that...and I don't think musky anglers will be happy either. We need to keep our ears open and make sure we let politicians know how many of us are concerned about muskies in MN. I don't even live in MN...but I spend too much time in MN to not be concerned and I guarantee those involved in the process to discontinue muskie stocking will know who I am if they don't already.
I appreciate every one of you who send an email...you have a choice to stand up for something you are passionate about, or do nothing...if you choose the latter...don't whine when what exists now is lost.
Commissioner Landwher should also be copied on any correspondence...he is going to be paramount on the status of the MN muskie program moving forward.
Thanks again for your support!
Brett Waldera |
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| How much of this now is ego!!! Drivin by that rich idiot on pelican???
He absolutely got his a## handed to him by the turnout at the public input meeting and then he got his a## handed to him by the dnr reps and data.
How can the council/commission not see what took place there and still go.along with this?
Edited by happy hooker 2/12/2016 7:11 PM
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm very irritated by this whole phenomena for you guys. I too would like to know who supports this nonsense so when I go to MN to fish muskies I know where and where not to spend my money. |
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Location: oswego, il | This is a bad precedent one that could affect all fish stocking in the state and the DNR should make that clear to everyone attached to this anti musky petition. |
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Location: WI | Looks like the antis have everything they need in today's political environment.
1) money
2) irrational, uninformed fears
3) general public looking for scapegoat for beloved Mille Lacs walleye fishery |
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Location: Contrarian Island | everyone that fishes muskies should take the 2 minutes to email the Governor and Lt Governor... I did... don't sit on the sidelines and drop them a simple email showing your support for musky stocking in MN
http://mn.gov/governor/contact-us/form/
Edited by BNelson 2/17/2016 8:52 AM
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Location: MN | Make no mistake this will be a war of attrition. I'm not sure if the Muskies inc still has a lobbyist at the capital but if not we need that re established. |
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | raftman - 2/17/2016 8:18 AM Looks like the antis have everything they need in today's political environment. 1) money 2) irrational, uninformed fears 3) general public looking for scapegoat for beloved Mille Lacs walleye fishery Yup. Anti's = low information voters! |
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| Where are the MN guys? Surely someone knows more than I do about what is going on politically over there in regards to the muskie stocking program? From what I am hearing...muskie enthusiasts are going to need to fight this year to protect what is currently in place for stocking in MN...let alone future stocking programs!!
It concerns me that there is this strong anti-muskie campaign going on with no counter support from the muskie fishermen!
Those who have sent an email...thanks for the support!!
Brett Waldera
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | NathanH: Muskies, Inc. has NEVER has a lobbyist at the capital or anywhere else. They are a 501 c3 non-profit organization and as such prohibited from lobbying. |
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Location: Maplewood, MN | Done! The more support the better. Even if you don't fish in MN, this could happen in your state! |
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Location: MN | I thought during our club meeting there was talk of having a rep as we worked to pass the new min length requirement. But I may have miss heard. |
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Location: Elk River, MN | MN muskie fisherman do have a lobbyist and I believe its through the Minnesota Muskie & Pike Alliance |
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Location: MN | Ok I thought we had something going. |
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Location: MN | I sent my email to governor goofy. I think it would be beneficial to send a copy of your email you send to the governor to Tom Landwehr the DNR commissioner. [email protected]
Thanks for the thread Brett! |
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Location: Walker, MN | Done. Let's make our voices heard! http://mn.gov/governor/contact-us/form/
Actually far from done but it's a great starting point.
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Location: Blaine, MN | takes just a couple minutes to send the letter, make a copy and copy/paste your letter to anyone that will listen. |
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Location: Ludington, MI | This is scary as hell. This is bigger than muskies, bigger than Minnesota, bigger than fishing. If the uninformed mob mentality decides to bull rush our DNRs, we're all in trouble. Take the time to take someone else fishing. Although MI does not have a lobbyist, is there anything to prevent it having a "legislative day" in every state where reps are taken on fishing trips? I know salmon groups have done that on the Great Lakes. |
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Location: Twin Cities | Letter sent! |
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| I'm just wondering if I really should have called him Gov. Goofy now... Letter sent |
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Location: Minnetonka | “There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.”
- Hippocrates
Please take literally two minutes to do this...
Edited by MuskyMatt71 2/17/2016 1:33 PM
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| Emails sent, this is a frustrating issue. Multiple lakes that would have made amazing musky fisheries have been rejected in recent years due to political pressure. As bad as that is having existing musky lakes coming under attack is something we simply can not sit back and ignore. |
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Location: Blaine, MN | Interesting look at the PLPOA P&L sheet... they have spent over 16k on Muskie related issues, and not $.01 was allocated to Sport fishing stocking or AIS in 2015... their priorities are clearly outlined in their financial. Their argument is probably why stock fish that will just be eaten by Muskies!!
http://www.pelicanlakemn.org/Information/2015%20PLPOA%20FINANCIALS0...
Edited by short STRIKE 2/19/2016 1:24 PM
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| Letter sent, I hope everyone takes 2 minutes to do this! Thanks for bringing up the topic on this forum BW!!
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Location: Waconia,MN | Muskie issues lol, what kind of issues are the muskie causing. I think this guy is a little butt hurt, and has made this a personal vendetta. |
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Location: Waconia, MN | Email sent! |
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Location: Plymouth, MN | Letter sent ... Thanks for rallying the troops! |
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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | So where are all the lawyers when one needs them? If the criteria to be used is whether or not a lake historically held muskies, then by gosh that same criteria should apply to walleye stocking as well.
Letter sent...and as someone who has voluntarily purchased a Walleye Stamp every year since they introduced them, I will NOT be purchasing one this year. We also will not be taking our early walleye opener trip to Big Stone lake, and have sent an email to the Ottertail Chamber of Commerce letting them know why.
Lets try to keep this updated with the organizations, municipalities etc that are supporting this so that folks can make informed decisions about where they want to spend their $$. |
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| castmaster - 3/10/2016 12:35 PM
So where are all the lawyers when one needs them? If the criteria to be used is whether or not a lake historically held muskies, then by gosh that same criteria should apply to walleye stocking as well.
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| we're a pretty bitter bunch. there ought to be at least one lawyer on here. |
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| castmaster - 3/10/2016 12:35 PM
So where are all the lawyers when one needs them? If the criteria to be used is whether or not a lake historically held muskies, then by gosh that same criteria should apply to walleye stocking as well.
Letter sent...and as someone who has voluntarily purchased a Walleye Stamp every year since they introduced them, I will NOT be purchasing one this year. We also will not be taking our early walleye opener trip to Big Stone lake, and have sent an email to the Ottertail Chamber of Commerce letting them know why.
Lets try to keep this updated with the organizations, municipalities etc that are supporting this so that folks can make informed decisions about where they want to spend their $$.
Has the argument of if we cant stock non-native muskies to lakes we shouldnt be able to stock walleyes that are not native to lakes been done before? I would be curious to hear how people respond to that in a way that makes sense. |
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| NONE of this makes sense don't even try,,,what about gull lake we won there too,,,this is all about backroom dealings and money talks.
The MMA and Muskies Inc Minn Chapters need to raise funds for a full time lawyer "very expensive" I know but these two have never come up short when raising funds and members or not I think all state muskie anglers are on board with this one.
Maybe if we had a booth at expo for this issue alone we could reach out to someone who is maybe a retired lawyer who might be willing to throw himself into this or one who's passionate enough to give us a discount who might be attending the show
. We want the dnr to handle this issue but if they keep getting pressed with legal action they may decide they have to let it go. A lawyer on our side might be able to at least deflect or attack their scheme s so they have to go on the defensive instead of always putting their energy into attacking us.
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| happy hooker - 3/11/2016 3:59 PM
NONE of this makes sense don't even try,,,what about gull lake we won there too,,,this is all about backroom dealings and money talks.
The MMA and Muskies Inc Minn Chapters need to raise funds for a full time lawyer "very expensive" I know but these two have never come up short when raising funds and members or not I think all state muskie anglers are on board with this one.
Maybe if we had a booth at expo for this issue alone we could reach out to someone who is maybe a retired lawyer who might be willing to throw himself into this or one who's passionate enough to give us a discount who might be attending the show
. We want the dnr to handle this issue but if they keep getting pressed with legal action they may decide they have to let it go. A lawyer on our side might be able to at least deflect or attack their scheme s so they have to go on the defensive instead of always putting their energy into attacking us.
How bout a Muskies Inc. Go fund me page to fight this bs? |
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Location: Park Rapids, MN | Letter sent! Might do some good to let these people know that a large majority of the walleyes that they claim they want to catch and that musky supposedly eat are also stocked. But it probably won't matter with these misinformed groups.
Edited by Baldyhook 3/15/2016 9:42 PM
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| What does 16k for Muskie issues even mean? How do you spend 16k on Muskie issues? |
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Location: Park Rapids, MN | Good question. |
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