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| Hope for some help.
This last weekend I tried using a Willy's planner board for a sucker bobber.
The problem I have is that once I hooked a 40" fish I was unable to get the board off the line. The back snap was to hard for me to undo and handle the rod. I was thinking about having my partner undo it next time(this time he was busy with his camcorder). I am also thinking about maybe using a release in the back, like the ones used on Off-shore boards.
One more thing, do any of the other boards have more bouyancy? I'd like to use bigger suckers on boards latter in the fall. The Willy's only seem to be bouyant enough for a 14" or smaller sucker. Not to mention in higher winds it will be necessary to add more lead to keep the sucker down.
I highly believe that spreading out the suckers increases the odds, and muskies in the boat is all about putting as many odds in your favor. |
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| I have used off shore planners before and had some of the same results.. its tough to get the board off when the muskies hits.. Everytime I had one hit it was tough, but I have pulled some off with some fish in the boat. I have ruled it out until I find a better way..
I would live to see a good slip float with a pitch on one side that makes it swing out. Now that would be something.[;)] |
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| Planner boards work great as floats with suckers for me when I would back troll them along the break using spinner rigs. Just couldn''t get them to drift out to the side while drifting with the wind.
Fish hook ups have always been a problem however. I use the Off Shore boards and only use the front clip, and will have the board pop free on it''s own once and a while. When the muskie hits, try to snap the line off with the rod. If it doesn''t pop free get over there and release it manually. Easier said than done however!
Its a great way to spread out a set up along a drop off, but it needs to be perfected. It also can reduce the time in finding a hot zone where the fish are holding. If the inside line keeps getting hit it''s telling you to move in a bit.
I would rather miss a few fish when they drop the sucker than not to have any hits at all. |
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| I have mr. walleye boards and you can get them off really easy. They have a spring loaded release in the fron and a spring loaded pin in the back.
I tried one for the first time last weekend and lost the fish that struck it. It's hard to get a good hookset with one I found out. I went back to the bobber.
Another reason I took it off is because if you run your trolling motor it could be construed as trolling by the warden.[:knockout:] |
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| Iam getting weary of reading about sucker fishing on this Muskie Message Board!! I even saw one last week talking of sucker fishing on Eagle in Ont. Next there will be a strong lobby for using two rods and lowering the size limit to 34" Bobbers?...give me a break.
Cant we keep the sport a fair fight between man and trophy??
B.Stidham |
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| Bob,
Wisconsin has a tradition that wont be broke on this.. Minnesota does not. Simply as that, I know, I was from MN at one time.
If its about muskie fishing, you will often find info on sucker fishing.. Its common in some states. EA, MH, MC and MuskieFIRST will all cover sucker fishing..
If you dont like it, fine thats no problem.. Everyone has a right to there own opinion and a right to fish the way they want too.
If I had my choice, it would be a one rod rule in WI,, but I know some good freinds of mine would argue with that too.
MN has a good fishery,, Sucker fishing with quicksets is not a factor over there, but it is legal. I do know of some guys who do it and catch some very large lunge in MN.. But they keep there mouth shut.
Sucker fishing is not as easy as you think...just like trolling, everything has an art to doing it.[;)] |
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| I will strongly back Jason on this one. I can''t troll at all where I live, because of tradition, and the fact that a strong lobby decided it was ''not sporting'', stated their case at the Conservation Congress hearings in the Spring a few years ago, and trolling again became illegal.
With the newer quick strike rigs, harm is minimal to none worse than a big jerk bait or bucktail. No one is arguing with your likes or dislikes, we are simply looking to the likes and dislikes of EVERYONE on the site. I know a fair number of anglers that fish with live bait when it is too cold for any other presentation, and they release everything, cleanly, using quickstrike rigs, or similar.
What we are talking about is personal choice. It is MuskieFIRST''s sincere desire to discuss all aspects and methods currently used in the muskie angling arena.
I do not personally fish with suckers, because I like to use a creature in the fall, and would get arrested for trolling if I had one over the side. We are allowed three rods apiece here. Again, tradition.
Also, to clarify a point, the original question was about using planer boards to pull suckers, with the planer board setting the depth like a ''bobber''. The Pro Walleye guys do this alot with a big Colorado Blade in front of the offering, and snapweights to get the presentation down to the desired depth.[:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:] |
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| Well said jason !!! 95 percent of the old timers all soaked suckers or row trolled them.and the fine art of row trolling is another form of muskie fishing fading away.between circle rigs and quiksets it does no more damage to a fish than a reef hawg or buck tail.I use suckers as a secondary bait for the fish that turn off a bait you can pick them up on a sucker. loved the article jason in mh.
RIVERWOLF GUIDE SERVICE & TACKLE
THOMAS A. JOHNSON[:devil:] |
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| Well lets at least keep the multiple rods and sucker soaking to the 'put and take ' lakes and not introduce these methods to Ontarios' trophy waters
Bob Stidham |
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| As I understand Ontario fishing regs, only one line per angler is allowed, period.
I don't see anything there at all about live bait and Muskies, but can guarantee that many Wisconsin anglers that visit Ontario for muskies use suckers late here, but do not use them there because they are not readily available, and because of the one rod per angler law. |
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| I'm fairly certain Steve Herbeck uses suckers on Eagle. I've never been there or fished with him, but I know I read something about it in In-Fisherman a few years ago. I'll have to see if I can find the article.
Also, in the article he used planer boards so it had to be since he's moved to Eagle. He was known as a great sucker fisherman when he lived in WI and has taken sucker fishing to the next level with trolling being legal in Ontario.
If I can find the article I'll post the issue here so all can read. |
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| Herbie was very successful backtrolling in Northern Wi for the short period of time it was legal. I know he occasionally used suckers, but never talked to him about trolling them on boards. |
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| I seen steve herbeck use suckers on eagle lake and a portage lake on tv. I forget the name of the show but the guy is from madison and has a thick wisconsin accent. Good show.[:)] |
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| Travis Richardson. Has a great show! |
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| Herbie has an article in the Oct/Nov 1995 issue of In-Fisherman titled Interactive Muskies (and Pike). There is a brief piece about using planer boards, but not enough to help you guys out. He uses, at least back then, Off Shore planer boards with a black release clip. He makes four or five line twists and puts the line in the clip. Doesn't say anything about after the fish hit.
Also, if anyone isn't sure how to rig a sucker herbie style there is a great photo section in the article that shows the whole process. |
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| just got busted by my wife for my last post. How can I remember a paragraph about planer boards written almost six years ago, but I can't remember what she says an hour ago? I dunno |
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| I plan on two new aproaches next time out with suckers. First try will be just using the front wing nut line clamp on the Willy's. Second will be a clip type release on the back of the board.
Thanks for the help. Next year I will experiment with other boards in hopes of higher bouyancy.
Why does someone always have to try to start the mud slinging? |
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Planner boards for sucker bobbers