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| Hey guys I'm in the market for a top of the line crankbait and was wondering what you guys like more. Blue water baits or headlocks... Is there an advantage to one or the other?
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| These are completely different lures. I dont understand your comparison. Get some of each. |
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| I have a couple of the Headlocks...good lure but truth be known, the much less expensive Jakes seem to produce just as well at 20% of the cost
Blue Waters have a good rep and great paint job but Ive never fished one.
All of the above will readily troll down to 20' which seems to be the magic zone for me in late fall. |
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Location: Sycamore, IL | FYI- I wouldn't say that a Jake will "readily troll down to 20'"...your gonna have to run a pretty long line to reach that depth and your bait will have to be tuned well.
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| Run them on wire and they will.
QUOTE]MD75 - 1/29/2016 8:34 PM
FYI- I wouldn't say that a Jake will "readily troll down to 20'"...your gonna have to run a pretty long line to reach that depth and your bait will have to be tuned well.
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| Headlocks are spendy, but they have incredible action! Seems like when we are trolling multiple baits, the Headlock is the one that gets bit 90% of the time. |
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| Really......I ran some outta the package. Got down to 17' with 70" out and caught fish boucin bottom... my bad...I should known better. Save ur $ if they wanna catch fiish....Tag ur it. Why the hell do u think so many lures work at any given time..cause they wanna feed and they are hungry ...DUH. Aint a secret. My verdict... Jakes catch just aw well as Headlocks. |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | My experience is Jakes maxed at around 17-18' on a long line (70-100) and that's tuned. 80# braid with 48" 150# wire leader. Never used wire though. We toss on Grandmas if we need a little extra depth. Just my experience and love Jakes and use them regularly.
As for Headlocks and BWB, well I have the Mattlock or Bigwood version and it's a nice bait and unique. Put lots if time on it on LOTW one fall and had 1 rip that lefts scales on the hook. But it's big and wonders so it's bound to tag a big fish sooner or later. That trip other baits did out shine but worth having in the box. Don't have any BWB but owned baits like Hose Shads and similar "high end" baits and they are very nice. Catch more, not sure about that but a quality bait and went to depths my normal lineup can't go. Maybe I need some of the "regular" Headlocks to try?!?! |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Don't overlook Hose Daddy's metal lip and wired through. The Hoser is a personal friend so I use a lot of his baits but they work well and stand up. |
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| horsehunter - 1/31/2016 6:51 PM
Don't overlook Hose Daddy's metal lip and wired through. The Hoser is a personal friend so I use a lot of his baits but they work well and stand up.
and cheaper lures catch just as well..... no personal friend here. You are paying for a paint job and the fish couldn't give rats ass. Right place, right time. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I was replying to the guy that said he was looking for top of the line baits.
I've tried them all and had lips break, bought them with lips set in cocked at an angle, had lips fall out, lures leak had one with a quarter inch void on the seam never had a hook pull out but my level of trust is low. I'm not looking for for 40 inch fish.
Use what your comfortable with I'll do the same |
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Location: Money, PA | BWB..... |
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Location: Money, PA | By the way, what constitutes a premium or "top of the line" bait? Is it the fact that it costs $100? I personally think not….The lure's effectiveness is what makes it premium for me; but I am a passionate fisherman and my MAIN goal is catching fish consistently. Theres NO one "magic" lure out there....I tell ALL of my customers that if you are ONLY running Hammer Lures, you are selling yourself short. The fish do not always want that walking action, they don't always want that slow roll, they don't always like deep or shallow or subtle.....They Like ALL of them at different times! I personally have tried to design a line of baits which kind of cover all the realms of action that muskies like at various times, lakes, habitats. Simple. IMO Variety is KEY.
I forgot to mention a premium bait should also have consistency in every aspect of the lure...finish, paint, durability, action and they should do exactly what the marketing claims that they do! All at a realistic and fair price to the consumer. Thats Top of the Line |
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| Top of the line? I think anything that can "hammer" them is top of the line. lol |
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| For anyone who is wanting to troll DEEP, the headlock is not a winner in my book. The action on the deep eye is isn't nearly the same and the "walk" of the bait changes significantly once you throw it 15' down or more. The atmospheric pressure that deep will literally kill the lure action and it will wiggle less than a Rapala. If you troll fast or deep, go with BWB |
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| MuskieJim - 2/4/2016 10:44 AM
The atmospheric pressure that deep will literally kill the lure action and it will wiggle less than a Rapala.
Haha, what? |
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| MuskieJim explain how the pressure effects the bait ? |
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Location: Sycamore, IL | Here's a video of a Headlock 80' back which puts it at about 24ft...yep, not much action:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxLPcTzks-4 |
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| 80' back 24' down? Really? I am asking honestly. I can't get that with a perchbait
Yes the deeper you go with a bait the more the action is changed. |
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Location: Sycamore, IL | You should be able to get a Perchbait that deep...just need a longer line. I don't run them but if their similar to the smaller Hooker bait 120ft back should about do it.
A lot depends on your rod angle as well...I run my rods low or in the water when looking for a deeper depth with less line out.
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| No I know that it will go that deep I am just questioning.....does a headlock really have a deeper dive curve than a perchbait? I never ran my headlock on a deep setting as the action wasn't nearly as good |
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