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| where do you guys see rods going in the future??? at 10'6 being the biggest right now can they get any bigger?
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Location: Smith Creek | Until a tournament series outlaws 9'+ rods they will continue to get longer. I don't believe anything longer than 9'6" is going to ever be really popular, though. |
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| Even though I'm 6'2", I find that my 9-foot rods are about as long as I want to go, especially when fishing alone. Having to net a big fish at the end of a long rod when alone isn't easy. I personally don't see myself getting any 10-foot or longer rods.
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Location: oswego, il | Rumor has it Bondy is working on a jigging rod that he can jig in the st Claire river while still being in the Detroit.
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| lmfao good one |
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Location: Walker, MN | It's not quite on point but.. I would like to see a standard measurement of muskie rod actions. There would have to be a standard test, maybe with weights and based on how much bend with x amount of weight or something. Maybe a 1 through 10 where all manufacturers would be consistent.
Other than that, heated grips for fall fishing would be sweet! |
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Location: Smith Creek | I've been lobbying for a rod that sends electric shock waves through the water to stun followers. Lazy follow? hit a button, get the net, CPR.
Technology isn't quite there yet.
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Location: Tennessee | My buddy has been using an 11'6" |
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| I have a hard time seeing standard sizing going much past 9' for two reasons:
1. shipping. 9' is about the max right now. almost everything over is telescopic
2. as mentioned, the netting challenge.
I think for certain applications (ex big rubber) you'll see rods go longer to make the cast easier.
Where I think they'll really be going is the direction St Croix just went with their legend elite's - faster, lighter. Beyond rods, reels will get lighter, smoother, and more durable. The big opportunity for muskie anglers will be in electronics that make the hunt more efficient. |
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| Also, rod lockers rarely fit rods over 8'. That is a 9'6" telescopic. That might scare me off. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Most rod lockers do more harm than good. People should be strapping them on top of the lockers instead of trying to jimmy them into rod lockers.
Tuffys have good rod storage in the center of the boat, all the side rod lockers are useless for rod storage. |
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Location: Western U.P. | Agree with others above. The lengths now will probably be around for a while. Rod blanks will probably go lighter & stronger using different materials.
My $0.02. I think one of the next improvements for Musky rods will be in line guide design. The move to Micro Wave or micro type guides in other fish species rod lines is becoming more popular. If you've used one, you'll understand why, and if you haven't, you should give one a try. Noticeably smoother, and farther casts. I won't bother getting another spinning or smaller casting rod without Micro Wave or some type of micro guides on it. It looks like most guide manufacturers already have or are developing micro guides of some type. A local rod builder has been experimenting with micro guides on Musky rods this year with good success. The single foot micro guides are showing no signs of the finish cracking after a couple months of hard use, and quite a few fish caught. I have 3 SC Musky blanks that I'll be building up this winter with micro guides. Should be interesting. Looking forward to giving them a workout next season. |
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| Cedar - 10/30/2015 9:28 AM
Agree with others above. The lengths now will probably be around for a while. Rod blanks will probably go lighter & stronger using different materials.
My $0.02. I think one of the next improvements for Musky rods will be in line guide design. The move to Micro Wave or micro type guides in other fish species rod lines is becoming more popular. If you've used one, you'll understand why, and if you haven't, you should give one a try. Noticeably smoother, and farther casts. I won't bother getting another spinning or smaller casting rod without Micro Wave or some type of micro guides on it. It looks like most guide manufacturers already have or are developing micro guides of some type. A local rod builder has been experimenting with micro guides on Musky rods this year with good success. The single foot micro guides are showing no signs of the finish cracking after a couple months of hard use, and quite a few fish caught. I have 3 SC Musky blanks that I'll be building up this winter with micro guides. Should be interesting. Looking forward to giving them a workout next season.
i have a big nasty spiral wrapped with micro guides , works fantastic ...
i use it for big swimbaits fishing for bass (i live in San Diego) |
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| I built my first big nasty spiraled with single foot micros for all the running guides. It was amazingly light for a musky rod. The only part I didn't like was fishing it really late when the little guides would ice up quickly. I rewrapped it with 6's and it's still light and doesn't ice up as quickly as the 4's I had on it before. I've caught several fish on it both ways. They're not "musky rods", but I use a few of my 8' bass rods for smaller baits early in the season that are all spiral wrapped with single foot micros, they handle the baits and fish flawlessly...
I firmly believe that spiral wrapped rods are the way to go from my experiences. I doubt we will see a manufacturer go that route tho... |
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Location: Land of the Musky | My next rod that Tuscarora tackle will be building me is a spiral guide configuration. I cannot wait to try it. Actually I think I asked Jeremy to make all 3 of my new rods that way. Probably donate 2 of them but definitely one of them will never leave my tackle pile  Jeremy really swears by the spiral wrap for the guides and it does make a lot of sense from a physics standpoint... |
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If the trend is to use long and/or very long rods (nine, ten or more feet),the future is to use rods in two pieces of the same length: they are transporting/shipping better and have excellent performance.
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| James-
You'll love the spiral wrapped rods! Don't let the looks of it dissuade you. I have a few buddies that won't try the spiral because it looks funny...I'm not concerned with how a fishing rod looks, I want them to work as well as they can and as close to the designed specs of the blank. I believe a spiral wrap allows that to happen when employed with the lightest components/ guides that will allow the line to pass freely along the path of least resistance (bottom of the blank). |
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| I for one will continue to seek the lightest rod for the lure Im using ..... musky rods have trended towards the "overbuilt" for years, taking the fight outta the catch. The majority of fish are sub 45" but the rods are built for +50". I seek rods for the sub 45" that will handle the occasional large fish not vice versa.....time to put the fun back into the catch. Manufacturers have gone too far to the graphite component in the shape of a broomstick, they need to introduce thinner but more "forgiving" fiberglass/graphite composites. Use heavy line and the release can still be quick when need be while the fight is much more memorable.
The trend will be lighter rods, lighter well built lures and strong but thinner lines.
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Location: Land of the Musky | musky513,
I love the look of spiral wrap rods. Can't wait to get mine. I told Jeremy with Tuscarora Tackle to take them to the musky shows and show them off. If he gets an offer to buy them I told him to sell them and then just remake my rods by early summer.... If you go to a show take a look at them. I can't wait to see them!!!
James
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| I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years from now a lot of high end rods will have carbon-framed guides on them... If these guides prove to be as great as they should be, IF..., I think they will be a big innovation in rod building... |
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| I've seen Jeremy's work at the MN Musky Expo. He does very nice work! If I didn't build my own, he would be a custom builder I would consider for sure! |
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| I agree with Wall I. Kdawg |
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Location: Smith Creek | wall i - 11/3/2015 7:16 AM
The majority of fish are sub 45" but the rods are built for +50".
No, the rods are built for the majority of baits, which either weigh 12 oz or pull like a 5 gallon bucket.
Maybe 20 years from now we'll all be throwing #6 single bladed bucktails and talking about how weird people were 20 years ago throwing the big stuff. I doubt it, though. |
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| This season I went from a St. Croix long ranger to the new St. Croix 9 foot Legend elite in the same action for throwing the smaller Bucktails I use for Tigers. It took me a little bit to get use to the weight difference and the different trigger. I love the 9 foot length but I don't think I would go any longer because of the heavier weight, my shoulder and elbow can only handle so much. |
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