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| When I was out the past weekend I raised and nice fish early in the morning. I was wondering what you guys do.. do you use the same lure and how long do you give it until you go back.
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| Usually you'd want to go back before sun down if you raised a fish during the day, but I have gone back a few hours later and the fish showed up again. I tend to toss the same lure, and my partner something different |
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Location: Minnetonka | Depending on how hot the fish was, I will generally try another lure right away. Big rubber can make em tick, but sometimes a wtd topwater is best. If I don't get a reaction after a couple casts, I'll leave her and come back at moonrise, sunset, etc. whatever periods are coming up. Lure choice when I come back on her depends on her mood the first time...ie: am I looking for a reaction strike or will it take a lure hanging in front of the fish's face. |
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| Yes Matt made a good point, always have a throwback lure for a fish that follows, its worked many times. Especially if they came in hot on your initial bait |
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| does live bait work good for this?
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | On bigger fish, I've had better luck camping for an extended period rather than coming back to them. Most people have a train of thought they will spook them if they stay and cast too long....can't say I agree
And while I have had luck doing both, I've also had just as much/better luck sticking with the same bait then switching to another. |
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Location: Metro | Personally if a fishing is coming in hot to, lets just say, my bucktail I will wait at least 30-40 minutes or until sunrise/sunset, moonrise/moonset. But I will go back with that same bucktail and try to get them again. If this doesn't work I give a smaller rest period and go back with different baits. This is somewhat talked about in a different thread. It doesn't hurt to throw the absolute pee out of an area. There are a lot more fish in one area than you might imagine. |
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| thanks for the responses... I went back on the same fish about 20 min after i saw her the first time and got her up again but she wouldn't commit. I let her sit for a couple hours and came back with a jerk bait and again got her to show herself... after that I threw in the anchor and put out 3 suckers for an hour and left her alone until sunset but never saw her again. I felt like I was pressuring her to much but the lake I fish is not very big so I had to "reserve" the spot. what would you guys have done?
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Location: Metro | I would have probably done the same thing. If it is a small lake you might as well fish hard on the spots that you see fish. Also if you don't want guys taking that spot I would have done the same thing. On a lake like Minnetonka it is a different story (sometimes not for the best). I love lake Tonka don't get me wrong but sometimes I think I go to so many new spots that I am not fishing good spots hard enough. That is why I like to fish lakes like Independence every once in a while. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I can't begin to tell ya how many times that I left a fish only to see SOMEONE else catch that same fish in the same area only moments later, especially during Tourneys.
I now will work the area using the same bait or change baits 2-3 times
Sometimes it pays off, and sometimes it doesn't
If nothing happens after working that fish for about an hr. I'll leave and return later in the day. |
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| I always go back through the area 2-3 times switching lures each time, if that doesn't work I'll come back at dawn or sunset... |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I won't bother camping on a fish that was really lazy... if the fish is hot maybe one more pass right away with a good throwback lure, then come back when you think a feeding window is open or at the next change in weather/wind/light etc...
another time to come back is after dark..they get dumber at night |
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| How long do you guys think it takes a fish to get back on the spot after a hot follow that follows in the 8 and shoots of in a different direction then it came from? I never have much luck catching these fish. Happened to me yesterday. |
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Location: Ashland WI | How about when the fish was clearly spooked?
Does it pay to throw back on it right away? |
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| achotrod - 10/22/2015 11:18 AM
How long do you guys think it takes a fish to get back on the spot after a hot follow that follows in the 8 and shoots of in a different direction then it came from? I never have much luck catching these fish. Happened to me yesterday.
One calm afternoon a buddy and I had a few fish follow out off the ridge of a shallow rock bar. The biggest one was very pale-colored so I could see it coming lazily behind the bucktail. It didn't make any aggressive moves boatside, and then I watched it slowly swim back in the direction from which it came. It stopped near some big boulders and did a 90-degree-cornerback park in between them. Not kidding. So that one took about 15 seconds to return to its "home". It didn't follow back with an immediate throwback, but it did show later that night and miss the bait boatside.
This summer I had one fish blow up on and miss a weagle twice in a row, about 3 minutes apart, at the exact same spot. Third time, followed a bucktail all the way to the boat but didn't stick around. Came back the fourth time, another three minutes later, and caught it [on a phantom]. Each time it had returned to the same haunt.
If it's an ambush spot and they're in full-feeding mode, or a relaxation spot and they're in relaxing mode, I think they go back right away. |
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| How long do you wait if the fish hits, feels the hook, but doesn't get hooked? Get's hooked, but gets off? |
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| yoopertrout - 10/24/2015 6:38 PM
How long do you wait if the fish hits, feels the hook, but doesn't get hooked? Get's hooked, but gets off?
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| About 9 out of 10 times, that fish won't come back. Every once in a while one might come back again, but not very often. That's my experience when they have felt the hooks anyway |
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| If we raise a fish, we always go back in about 10 - 15 minutes, I can't tell you how many fish we catch doing this, leave and then go right back in 10 minutes. If it was hooked just move on.
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| If it's a big enough fish to go back on, I usually pull the loop trick on them and go back right away for another pass. Depending how hot it was I may have another bait go thru first. If it's a big fish I'll go thru at least a couple times right away using different lures/speeds. If nothing then leave and come back at any change in weather/sun/moon. Real lazy fish on tails doesn't mean they won't eat. IAJustin taught me that a few years ago. Just have to try something else. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | 14ledo81 - 10/22/2015 11:41 AM
How about when the fish was clearly spooked?
Does it pay to throw back on it right away?
Those fish that look/appear to be clearly spooked and blast out of there can be some of the most catchable. Quite often, that's a ramped up fish that's ready/getting ready to 'go' In fact, those fish can be caught at times on the figure 8 during that very retrieve, even where it appears they headed for the next county.
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| It all depends on the fish... The lazy slow ones seem to be gone before you get back, whether it's an hour or 4 hours later. The ones that come in hot and failed to commit seem to follow a few times right away and then it's a crapshoot whether you'll see them again later on. The only fish I've ever had any luck with coming back on are the ones where they wanted to eat and I screwed it up, either by taking the lure away, scaring them off, or one in particular that I whacked with the rod in the figure 8.
I hate to abuse the old adage "you have to read the fish..." But you can kind of tell which ones are catchable. Even then, we've had days where we had 4-5 fish going in a small area, left for an hour and came back to find the dead sea.
I'm of the mindset that you get one or two chances at a fish, and then that is it. Best to just go on about your fishing, and come back when something changes if it was a big enough where it will bother you knowing you didn't go back.
That's the mental part of the game, and it's the hardest part to play. Should I go back? Was I throwing the wrong lure? Was I throwing the right lure in the wrong size? Too fast? Too slow? Will she eat at moonrise? Sunset? Now that the wind picked up?
The older I get, the more I think: "It's a fish. There ain't much going on upstairs. It's gonna eat, or it isn't. As long as I don't F up my chances are as good as anyone else's."...
The only time I am apt to camp out on a fish is in places where I have a reasonable expectation that other people will be hitting that spot if I leave.
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