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| Anybody out there towing with the new Colorados or Canyons yet with the 3.6. Just curious about feedback. Maybe a 2016 in the works. Kdawg |
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Location: SE WISCONSIN | What are you going to be towing? |
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Location: MN | Nope bit I have a v6 3.5L in my current SUV. Specs should be the same. What are you towing? |
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| I've read some poor reviews on the Colorado, mostly crash test ratings and fatalities and stuff like that.
Here is how it was explained to me:
When towing, the thing to keep in mind is your GCWR - it can be deceiving, because that number includes the curb weight of the vehicle, and the weight of all passengers and gear. So for my truck for example, the GCWR is 16,000 lb. While it lists a towing capacity of 12,000 lb, that's not entirely accurate. Subtracting the empty weight of the truck itself of 6,200 lb leaves you with 5,800 lb. Add a tank of gas and two 200# passengers, 100 pounds of gear, you lose another 750 pounds, leaving you close to 5000# that you can safely tow before the vehicle is technically overloaded.
When hauling cargo, you use the GVWR and subtract everything else. So in my case, with a 9,200 GVWR, minus 6,200# for the weight of the truck, 200# for me, and a tank of gas, the actual payload is around 2,500#. That sounds like a lot, but when you consider a single palette of sod (which ain't all that much) is 2000# or so, it's pretty easy to overload your vehicle. |
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| Crestliner 1600sc angler. 7000lb. tow ratings is quite impressive. kdawg |
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| I Had Dodge Ram, Colarado,Dakota .I now have Nissan Frontier SL.Kicks but on them. 270 HP. All the amenities and # 1 in consumer reports mid-size trucks for years. Pull 18' Lund like it 's not there.4.0 runs forever. Very happy with it.Tow rating is 6 or 7 K.Average 15 MPG towing to Canada and Minny this year. Hope this helps.
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Location: MN | I'm pulling a tiller alumacraft classic same weight giver or take 100lbs. No issues at all I'm going 70 and doing 2200 rpms. My tow rating is 3500lbs |
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| I have the same boat as you and pulled it with a 4.3 s10 blazer for 7 years, upgraded to a used 4.2 trailblazer which is much better. I wanted the sweet new Colorado but the price was too steep. |
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| esoxaddict,The information that you are talking about is that the 2015 colorado and canyon.Because I have not read anything you are saying about those claims,infact I have heard the opposite.Just asking,and where did you get that information.
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Edited by bob690 9/23/2015 1:38 PM
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Location: Metro | I don't have a truck but I do have use a 2014 Subaru Outback 3.6L V6. My boat is a 1997 Skeeter 185. The car pulls the boat great. When you are going from a stop light or up a hill you can feel the car work a little bit but I think that is normal for most vehicles towing something. You can tell something is back there but it doesn't feel like the car can't handle it.
With that said I know most people are looking for a truck or don't like the Subaru Outback style but if it helps you compare the engine size I think it would be fine towing smaller boats like my 18.5. I believe the car has 3000lbs of towing? |
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| That is an accident waiting to happen IMO. |
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| bob690 - 9/23/2015 1:35 PM
esoxaddict,The information that you are talking about is that the 2015 colorado and canyon.Because I have not read anything you are saying about those claims,infact I have heard the opposite.Just asking,and where did you get that information.
bob690
Hi bob...
I'm thinking it was in the last year or so that I read those reports, so it could have been for the earlier models. I believe it was Forbes. They do annual reports on the most dangerous, most stolen, etc.
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Location: Metro | cave run legend - 9/24/2015 10:14 AM
That is an accident waiting to happen IMO.
What is an accident waiting to happen? |
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Location: Lake Elmo, MN | The 2014 Subaru Outback has a tow capacity of 2700 pounds when equipped with the tow package and V6.
Your boat is 1425pounds, the motor you can figure approx. 400 pounds, the trailer I believe is 600-800pounds. Add gear and fuel......No wonder you are hearing your car labor when starting and going up hills.
If you hear your car labor when going up hills etc....I'd be careful.
That Suburu is a real nice vehicle. You don't want to have to buy a new motor.
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | esoxaddict - 9/22/2015 7:51 PM
While it lists a towing capacity of 12,000 lb, that's not entirely accurate. Subtracting the empty weight of the truck itself of 6,200 lb leaves you with 5,800 lb. Add a tank of gas and two 200# passengers, 100 pounds of gear, you lose another 750 pounds, leaving you close to 5000# that you can safely tow before the vehicle is technically overloaded.
I have never heard this before. You subtract the weight of the truck from its towing capacity? |
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Location: Metro | PSAGuy - 9/24/2015 12:08 PM
The 2014 Subaru Outback has a tow capacity of 2700 pounds when equipped with the tow package and V6.
Your boat is 1425pounds, the motor you can figure approx. 400 pounds, the trailer I believe is 600-800pounds. Add gear and fuel......No wonder you are hearing your car labor when starting and going up hills.
If you hear your car labor when going up hills etc....I'd be careful.
That Suburu is a real nice vehicle. You don't want to have to buy a new motor.
Thanks for the info but when I say "Labor" the vehicle never goes over 3,000 rpms. I don't think it can be that horrible if it is staying in the 2,000rpm range. I am not saying I am an expert by any means but I am pretty positive you can tell when your car likes or dislikes something you are doing to it.
I will take my chances with confidence =]. |
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| EA, I believe it could of been information on the earlier vehicles, '05-2012, which I believe was the last year of production of the earlier models. I sat in a new Colorado z71 that last time I went for an oil change. Very sharp truck, but the price would almost put you in Silverado territory. Can't figure out GM sometimes. Kdawg |
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| Paul S - 9/24/2015 12:22 PM
esoxaddict - 9/22/2015 7:51 PM
While it lists a towing capacity of 12,000 lb, that's not entirely accurate. Subtracting the empty weight of the truck itself of 6,200 lb leaves you with 5,800 lb. Add a tank of gas and two 200# passengers, 100 pounds of gear, you lose another 750 pounds, leaving you close to 5000# that you can safely tow before the vehicle is technically overloaded.
I have never heard this before. You subtract the weight of the truck from its towing capacity?
No, you are supposed to subtract the vehicle weight from the GCWR. (gross combination weight rating) GCWR is considered the maximum total acceptable weight for your vehicle, cargo, passengers, and whatever you are towing.
Another way to judge what you can safely tow is by taking the GVWR, subtracting the weight of the vehicle, passengers, gear, and don't forget a tank of gas. That will give you a close approximation of what is considered a safe tongue weight.
When they list towing capacities, they don't take into account anything you might have in the truck, or in the boat, so those numbers can be deceiving.
Best bet is to check them all and make sure you're not over your GVWR (adding the weight of the truck, tongue weight of the trailer, you, your dog, gas in the boat and truck, 3 lakewoods, all your beer, etc.) or your GCWR (added weight of everything).
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| kdawg - 9/24/2015 3:19 PM
EA, I believe it could of been information on the earlier vehicles, '05-2012, which I believe was the last year of production of the earlier models. I sat in a new Colorado z71 that last time I went for an oil change. Very sharp truck, but the price would almost put you in Silverado territory. Can't figure out GM sometimes. Kdawg
You may be right there. It was a while ago. If they've done a redesign, I'd expect they solved that problem. |
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| esoxaddict - 9/24/2015 3:48 PM
kdawg - 9/24/2015 3:19 PM
EA, I believe it could of been information on the earlier vehicles, '05-2012, which I believe was the last year of production of the earlier models. I sat in a new Colorado z71 that last time I went for an oil change. Very sharp truck, but the price would almost put you in Silverado territory. Can't figure out GM sometimes. Kdawg
You may be right there. It was a while ago. If they've done a redesign, I'd expect they solved that problem.
The new one has top crash test ratings in basically every category.
http://www.cars.com/chevrolet/colorado/2015/safety-ratings
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| A friend has the new GMC and tows a 17 1/2 alum. with a 90 4 stroke. He loves it and it tows great but than again who wouldn't love a 37000 truck |
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| Captain, I was not aware of that. Thank you.
It might be worth considering if I am ever in the market for a new truck. |
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