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| Anyone know of an extended power handle that would work with the Toro S? I like the reel but would like to throw on a longer handle (I'm switching from a lexa) |
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| As far as i know, the new toro beast and toro S use their own handle, so no you can't use one from a lexa.
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| Zinox - 9/22/2015 7:50 AM
As far as i know, the new toro beast and toro S use their own handle, so no you can't use one from a lexa.
Obviously. I was asking if anyone knew of a handle that worked. |
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Location: Alex or Alek? | Welcome to Team ABU its "for life", as of now I don't know of any longer handle that will fit on the S but im sure if there isnt one will be made soon. |
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| If it wasnt clear, the power "jigging" handle from a toro beast would work. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | I have two extended handles for a beast I would sell for $60 shipped. |
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| burningdubs - 9/22/2015 5:37 AM
Anyone know of an extended power handle that would work with the Toro S? I like the reel but would like to throw on a longer handle (I'm switching from a lexa)
The longest handle from the Toro Beast works with perfect compatibility. No other aftermarket handles as yet to my knowledge. |
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| The beast jigging handle will turn that S into a cranking machine! |
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Location: Metro | ABU ABU ABU!!!!! |
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| Looks like the 50 size has the paddle handle and the 60 comes with the balanced power handle. Which reel did you get? Ive tested all 3 handles on the Beast. The balanced power handle makes cranking much easier then the paddle. The Jigging handle makes cranking much easier then the balanced handle. I did not have any engagement issues so far with the Jigging handle. |
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| I thought the power handle on the S 61 series was absolutely PERFECT.... Not to small, and Not to big the Perfect Size... I found the Jigging handle from the Beast which I tried on the S model to be Too Long for my liking.....But I'm sure it's perfect for what it was designed for Ocean Jigging .... For me I think the power jigging handle was just too long making it almost awkward to reel in at a nice fast retrieve ..... But that's just My Opinion I'm sure some of you mountain men will love it..... lol Both are just fantastic reels....and will fill that Nitch that us Left hand Guys Needed for several years.. JUST IMAGINE a Solid Made Good Quality Left Handed Reel that can be used for a Big Bucktail reel at a fraction of the weight and price of a Tranx..OMG and it's Not only made for Right handed Fishermen Thanks Abu |
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Location: Hayward, WI | How many length settings are available on that jigging handle? Looks like there are 3 square/rectangle cutouts on the handle. Can each of the 3 be used, or are there only the two different length settings on the non balanced jigging handle? |
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| 3 settings and I tried the middle one. Felt if I used the short setting I might as well leave the balanced handle on and the long setting would be awkward and increase the chance of engaging the reel. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Good to know. Appreciate your reviews on this reel. Still split on a HS Beast or a Toro S! |
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| If bass pro would get me my S I'd let you know what I think. Ridiculous it taking this long for something "in stock" without paying for overnight shipping. Should have ordered from a smaller muskie shop. |
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| As for the beast you really can't go wrong with either ratio. Just depends how you fish and what you normally throw. |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | i have the S 60.. pulls big blades in like a dream! will be getting another for sure. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Just got our 60 S and 60 Beast HS. One matched up on a Beast rod, the other a Veritas. Nice rigs, and they will be getting a workout over the next 8 weeks. The Toro S came with the balanced power handle.
It was not easy to just let people talk $%^& before the reels started to ship.
Abu did a nice job on these reels, and a very nice job on the rods. They got the actions right, and I'm a split grip guy and really like the handles. |
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| Sorry if this has already been asked/answered, but will those handles fit a Revo Toro 60? Do they all have the same spindle? I'd really like to put a balanced power handle on my old Revo Toro's.
I know the NACL power handle works on the Revo Toro if and only if you use the mounting hole for the longer setting. |
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| I don't think they'll fit. Apparently Abu switched how the handles attach to the reel. The middle slot on the jigging reel feels much better (to me) compared to the stock one on the S. |
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| jaultman - 9/30/2015 5:29 AM
Sorry if this has already been asked/answered, but will those handles fit a Revo Toro 60? Do they all have the same spindle? I'd really like to put a balanced power handle on my old Revo Toro's.
I know the NACL power handle works on the Revo Toro if and only if you use the mounting hole for the longer setting.
No, the hole for the handles is different. The older handles are for a rectangular shaft. The main crank shafts on the Revo Toro Beast/S are square. |
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| Okay, thanks guys. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 5o and 60 size of each, and handles standard with them.
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| For some strange reason Hawaii had these reels available and on sale weeks before us Don't know why? there were a few selling the Lefty61;s for $201 for the S61 and $278 for the Beast 61...........Great Prices with free shipping. |
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Location: Des Moines Iowa | Name of the company in Hawaii? |
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| cast4musky - 9/30/2015 2:39 PM
For some strange reason Hawaii had these reels available and on sale weeks before us Don't know why? there were a few selling the Lefty61;s for $201 for the S61 and $278 for the Beast 61...........Great Prices with free shipping.
Thanks for letting us know. You broke a musky angler's unwritten rule. |
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| alohafishing WOW looks like they sold all lefties already, few righty left and 50 series S
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| Bought a S60 off of ebay for $201 from a Hawaiian store. |
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| Yep Thats what I did Last week trying to save you guys a few $$$$$$ mike |
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Location: MN | Chain Gang - 9/30/2015 3:36 PM
Bought a S60 off of ebay for $201 from a Hawaiian store.
I just did too but I don't think from Hawaiian store GA. I cannot help it. for that price you cannot go wrong. Plus ABU has the best customer service in the Business. |
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| Glens Army Navy i (Brick & Mortar store in Grand Rapids Minn.)
www.glensoutdoors.com
Revo Toro S60 224.95
Revo Beast $339.95 51HS, 60HS, 61HS, 60
Free shipping on orders over $50.00 |
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| got mine today. I am impressed with these reels |
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| Ronix - 9/30/2015 3:39 PM
got mine today. I am impressed with these reels
They are the real deal guys :). |
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| finally able to throw the S with the Beasts jigging handle and if you're looking to get a little more cranking power its the way to go. Night and day difference. |
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| Were you pulling 10's with that set up?
How did Beast Jigging handle compare to the regular 'S' Power Handle for ease of pull? |
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| The jigging handle gives you way more power then the weighted handle but be careful using it so it doesnt engage the spool. The Beasts are a nicer smoother reel, and the S is a great reel. With that said one of my Beasts is back at Abu already. |
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| why? |
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| Noticed it get loud and rougher after about 10-12 hours of use. Found the bearing blew out on the levelwind on the brake side. |
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| talmooner - 10/1/2015 9:48 AM
Were you pulling 10's with that set up?
How did Beast Jigging handle compare to the regular 'S' Power Handle for ease of pull?
yes. pulled everything from big spinners to the hardest pulling blades I have. it pulled them fine with the stock handle but its much, much easier to pull them in with the jigging handle, only the revolutions took longer. I am used to the lexa so it felt "right" with the longer handle. just be sure the handles down on casts and you'll be alright as far as engaging. |
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| Or thumb the release button during the cast, takes no time to get used to, and you will newer have to worry about the reel engaging. I do it with almost all my reels. |
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| Zinox - 10/1/2015 2:22 PM
Or thumb the release button during the cast, takes no time to get used to, and you will newer have to worry about the reel engaging. I do it with almost all my reels.
Hopefully you have strong thumbs. I do the same but if the handle is up top, good luck! better off to have it down so there's no worries. |
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Location: MN | burningdubs - 10/2/2015 7:06 AM
Hopefully you have strong thumbs. I do the same but if the handle is up top, good luck! better off to have it down so there's no worries.
It doesn't take any strength to hold down the thumb bar. And it doesn't matter if the handle is "up top". If you have the thumb bar depressed it cannot engage, no matter the position. |
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| Propster - 10/2/2015 7:52 AM
burningdubs - 10/2/2015 7:06 AM
Hopefully you have strong thumbs. I do the same but if the handle is up top, good luck! better off to have it down so there's no worries.
It doesn't take any strength to hold down the thumb bar. And it doesn't matter if the handle is "up top". If you have the thumb bar depressed it cannot engage, no matter the position.
How do you disengage the thumb bar? By turning the handle and when the handles up top and you cast it wants to disengage the thumb bar. If you're not holding it down with decent force it will lift a bit and grind the gears or completely disengage if you're not actually pressing the thumb bar down. I'm obviously not talking about strength but you need to be cautious to apply more than just a resting thumb or it will disengage with the handle up top... |
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| Guess i must be extremely strong then, never had a problem no matter where the handle is :P |
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| Got mine in the mail today. Super quick shipping from Hawaii! I look forward to putting it through the ringer as I am traditionally a shimano only guy but was extremely intrigued by this reel. |
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| Just got my "S" in the mail at work today.
Only had the Power Handle in the box. No double paddle which I expected.
No jigging handle, which I knew was Toro Beast only.
Is the Power Handle only with no double paddle handle the standard? I will check with my seller (Glens Outdoors) but was curious as to what other have gotten in the box?
Hope to get this baby spooled up and some test throws this weekend.
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Location: Ashland WI | talmooner - 10/7/2015 9:43 AM
Just got my "S" in the mail at work today.
Only had the Power Handle in the box. No double paddle which I expected.
No jigging handle, which I knew was Toro Beast only.
Is the Power Handle only with no double paddle handle the standard? I will check with my seller (Glens Outdoors) but was curious as to what other have gotten in the box?
Hope to get this baby spooled up and some test throws this weekend.
Thanks
Talmooner
Mine came with only the power handle. |
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| talmooner - 10/7/2015 7:43 AM
Just got my "S" in the mail at work today.
Only had the Power Handle in the box. No double paddle which I expected.
No jigging handle, which I knew was Toro Beast only.
Is the Power Handle only with no double paddle handle the standard? I will check with my seller (Glens Outdoors) but was curious as to what other have gotten in the box?
Hope to get this baby spooled up and some test throws this weekend.
Thanks
Talmooner
The Toro S 60 comes with the balanced power handle only, the 50 comes with the paddle. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | I have a beast long throw handle if someone is interested. Makes pulling big baits super easy. |
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| Thank you sir
Now I get the picture |
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| Beasts come with all three handles and the S comes with only one. S60 has the weighted power handle and the S50 only has the double paddle handle. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Ran a double 10 all day today up at AML with a few breaks tossing a big tube bait on a Toros 60 strapped to a heavy action 8' Veritas rod. No issues and easy on the body. |
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| sworrall - 10/7/2015 8:29 PM
Ran a double 10 all day today up at AML with a few breaks tossing a big tube bait on a Toros 60 strapped to a heavy action 8' Veritas rod. No issues and easy on the body.
Steve,
Thanks for the info. Can you share what # test braid you are running and how many yards you were able to get spooled on the S60?
And how did you like the H Veritas at 8' compared to other rods you may have tried with the S60 for bucktails?
Great to hear how it pulls 10's.
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Location: Ashland WI | talmooner - 10/8/2015 10:10 AM
sworrall - 10/7/2015 8:29 PM
Ran a double 10 all day today up at AML with a few breaks tossing a big tube bait on a Toros 60 strapped to a heavy action 8' Veritas rod. No issues and easy on the body.
Steve,
Thanks for the info. Can you share what # test braid you are running and how many yards you were able to get spooled on the S60?
And how did you like the H Veritas at 8' compared to other rods you may have tried with the S60 for bucktails?
Great to hear how it pulls 10's.
Thank you
Talmooner
I (barely) fit 150 yards of 80lb Sufix 832 on my S60. I had (very) minimal backing. |
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| 14ledo81 - 10/8/2015 12:01 PM
talmooner - 10/8/2015 10:10 AM
sworrall - 10/7/2015 8:29 PM
Ran a double 10 all day today up at AML with a few breaks tossing a big tube bait on a Toros 60 strapped to a heavy action 8' Veritas rod. No issues and easy on the body.
Steve,
Thanks for the info. Can you share what # test braid you are running and how many yards you were able to get spooled on the S60?
And how did you like the H Veritas at 8' compared to other rods you may have tried with the S60 for bucktails?
Great to hear how it pulls 10's.
Thank you
Talmooner
I (barely ) fit 150 yards of 80lb Sufix 832 on my S60. I had (very ) minimal backing.
So would you say more than or less than around 180 yds including backing?
Would the Inches per crank suffer significantly if you just had the 150 yards of 80# or if spooled up with #100? I will be spooling up a new S60 this weekend and trying to decide what to do.
Thanks
Talmooner
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Location: Ashland WI | talmooner - 10/8/2015 1:22 PM
14ledo81 - 10/8/2015 12:01 PM
talmooner - 10/8/2015 10:10 AM
sworrall - 10/7/2015 8:29 PM
Ran a double 10 all day today up at AML with a few breaks tossing a big tube bait on a Toros 60 strapped to a heavy action 8' Veritas rod. No issues and easy on the body.
Steve,
Thanks for the info. Can you share what # test braid you are running and how many yards you were able to get spooled on the S60?
And how did you like the H Veritas at 8' compared to other rods you may have tried with the S60 for bucktails?
Great to hear how it pulls 10's.
Thank you
Talmooner
I (barely ) fit 150 yards of 80lb Sufix 832 on my S60. I had (very ) minimal backing.
So would you say more than or less than around 180 yds including backing?
Would the Inches per crank suffer significantly if you just had the 150 yards of 80# or if spooled up with #100? I will be spooling up a new S60 this weekend and trying to decide what to do.
Thanks
Talmooner
I barely covered the spool with mono backing (not sure of the size), so it is definitely not 180 yards total.
Again, I barely fit the 150 yards of 80. I was almost going to stop spooling, but saw there was not much left. I figured if I take it out, and it seems to much, I can always cut some off.
I am not certain (definitely not a reel guru) but I don't think the IPT would change with 80 or 100. I think what would affect that would be the diameter of the "full" spool.
BTW, I did fish with this last weekend. Previously I had an older Calcutta 400. This reel made reeling tens much, much easier. Hands felt great at the end of the day. |
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Location: MN | Being that for a given brand the 100# is a bigger diameter than 80#, yes the IPT will change slightly (will be less) with 100#. |
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| Propster - 10/8/2015 12:42 PM
Being that for a given brand the 100# is a bigger diameter than 80#, yes the IPT will change slightly (will be less) with 100#.
If the reel is filled to the same height of the spool the IPT will only be insignificantly different after a cast. |
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| achotrod - 10/1/2015 12:26 PM
Noticed it get loud and rougher after about 10-12 hours of use. Found the bearing blew out on the levelwind on the brake side.
two days in and mind was smoked also. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I like the Veritas series. We have had the entire line since last fall, and I find myself reaching for them pretty regularly. Light, well balanced, plenty of oomph, and the handles fit me well. A very nice rod at a very nice price point!
I have no idea how much line. I spooled with 80# off a giant bulk spool. |
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