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| Go ahead and read the article below, the misinformation and lack of facts these guys are spreading to the public is just hilarious. They're making it sound like they're making their last stand to protect their fish population from these giant sea monsters. Thankfully, the DNR is using actual facts to debunk these myths, but with the public's lake of trust in the MN DNR, I can see a lot of residents buying into this BS they're spewing. A lot of education is still need for the lake stakeholders outside the musky world to prevent more of this nonsense.
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Location: varies | "Muskie guys have more money than walleye guys".
Must be true if we buy bucktails for $100 |
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Location: Smith Creek | I feel sorry for Wolters. Probably gets an angry letter or phone call from every stupid mud duck that can't catch a limit of big female walldogs. |
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| Like it or not, this is the perception that's out there, and it's shared by most folks except those of us who actually like to fish for them. It's easy to see the argument - you can't keep them, you can't eat them, they prey on smaller fish... They eat people's little dogs and you'll never be able to swim in the lake again...
It's been as long as I can remember- the DNR doesn't know anything, the DNR is corrupt, they're being bought by this or that group... Some yo-yo in the bar walks in complaining because the #*^@ muskies ate all the walleyes and that's why the fishing sucked today, and all the rest of the yo-yo's walk away believing that muskies are a scourge.
Maybe it's just a coincidence, but my largest pike, walleye, and smallmouth have all come out of lakes with healthy populations of muskies.
You want a fish that eats everything? Large Mouth Bass. Now there's a predator.
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | "Every year for the last 30 years, me and my buddies and everyone I know took home our limit of walleyes every time we fished, and now we can't even come close to our limit. The muskies are eating all the Walleyes!" Geezus, how many times have I heard this? The stupid part is, the ones that spout this just identified their problem, but are too dumb to realize it! |
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| gtp888 - 8/20/2015 10:28 AM
"Every year for the last 30 years, me and my buddies and everyone I know took home our limit of walleyes every time we fished, and now we can't even come close to our limit. The muskies are eating all the Walleyes!" Geezus, how many times have I heard this? The stupid part is, the ones that spout this just identified their problem, but are too dumb to realize it!
And they get so angry when you tell them that every time they limit out on walleyes they just ate more of them than a musky will eat in a month...
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| These people really are special. Every study done has proven muskies do NOT eat walleyes in any relevant number. In fact they tend to eat more other muskies than walleyes. But faced with those facts their responses are the following:
1) what about muskies over 54", what do they eat?
2) the study was done at this time of year. I am sure they eat nothing but walleyes the rest of the year.
3) those other 40+ lakes studied are nothing like "my" lake
And on and on and on....
I am sure AIS and angler harvest have nothing to do with their PERCEIVED lack of walleyes. |
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| Pretty interesting video showing muskies and walleyes together in one body of water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRIE5nCdES8
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I heard the Pelican Lake association was trying to get the slot reduced to 30 something inches just so they could legally thump every muskie they caught. Sadly I'm sure plenty get the thump or the knife when incidentally caught by these uneducated folks.
The best walleye waters in our state all have muskies. |
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Location: US | When I was I high school the MN DNR stocked a local lake with muskies and I remember hearing the same BS from a bunch of the locals. Even heard of guys killing the ones they did catch. It seemed to me in the years following the quality of all fishing in that lake only got better. I think now people are generally ok with it there, but I haven’t fished there for a while.
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Location: Alex or Alek? | The best walleye waters in our state all have muskies.
I have a cabin in ottertail country and it is ridiculous how much of the older generation that have been "fishing these lakes for 50 years" think that the muskies are the main reason that they are not catching fish anymore. Even in lakes that the DNR doesn't stock with muskies, like Otter Tail that have a small population due to rivers that run through the lake, they still complain that muskies are the reason. I normally just shut my mouth when they bicker because you can't tell them anything, but when I do I ask them how Lake of the woods, Vermillion, Cass, and Leech, are still some of the best fisheries in the country. Their normal response is your to young to realize what these fish have done. Good comeback with that. |
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| The dnr info is our best defense and we need it since we set a poor example.
We lecture and quote the statistics but then go out in 3 foot October waves and toss $30 1lb lures all day long in "walleye" color because we have confidence this will get us our trophy. People walk into a shop like gander mountain or a tackle retailer that sells all multi species gear and see a 10 or 14 inch Jake hanging on the wall flip it over and see "WOW" $20-$35 for this thing and it's in walleye color "and those musky guys always say they don't eat em"
Musky anglers are representing Themselves in a don't do has we do, do what we say attitude.
Yeah,yeah,yeah, I've heard that "I think walleye color looks like a sucker" if it's marked "walleye" it was meant to BE that.
6 years ago I stopped buying and using walleye color lures and in fact dumped all mine at a swap meet and boy did you guys swarm over them. I figured if m gonna talk the talk I better walk the walk.
It would be nice if we made baits and used maybe the brown pike or other name instead but guys want to sell baits and guys want walleye color baits but "that's ok because they don't eat walleye"
Stop filling your boxes full.of walleye baits we need to back up the sh#t we talk!!! |
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Location: Aurora | .. even if it's got an orange tail? |
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Location: varies | http://muskie.fishn.ca/articles/whatdomuskieseat.shtml
Read the Facts, studies, stats portion.
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| So why is walleye either the best or second best bulldawg color sold,,,brown white belly white tip on tail,,that's no Ciscoe. We're buying them because bottom line we want our fish and we have confidence in it.this isn't 1975 and only a hand full of baits available we sort through and seek this color out.
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| Happy, a walleye color lure darting and bobbing and weaving its way through the water column catches muskies because it looks like an easy meal. It acts nothing like a healthy walleye in the lake going about its business. |
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| CFollow your right,, but what does the public think when they see just about every muskie lure made offered in walleye color!!! There's no law that says we HAVE to make these-we want to make and buy these. |
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Location: The desert | happy hooker - 8/20/2015 5:30 PM
The dnr info is our best defense and we need it since we set a poor example.
We lecture and quote the statistics but then go out in 3 foot October waves and toss $30 1lb lures all day long in "walleye" color because we have confidence this will get us our trophy. People walk into a shop like gander mountain or a tackle retailer that sells all multi species gear and see a 10 or 14 inch Jake hanging on the wall flip it over and see "WOW" $20-$35 for this thing and it's in walleye color "and those musky guys always say they don't eat em"
Musky anglers are representing Themselves in a don't do has we do, do what we say attitude.
Yeah,yeah,yeah, I've heard that "I think walleye color looks like a sucker" if it's marked "walleye" it was meant to BE that.
6 years ago I stopped buying and using walleye color lures and in fact dumped all mine at a swap meet and boy did you guys swarm over them. I figured if m gonna talk the talk I better walk the walk.
It would be nice if we made baits and used maybe the brown pike or other name instead but guys want to sell baits and guys want walleye color baits but "that's ok because they don't eat walleye"
Stop filling your boxes full.of walleye baits we need to back up the sh#t we talk!!!
I can honestly say I've never once heard this argument. It's a bit out there and not something I would remotely worry about. |
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| We buy them because we seem to think something that resembles a real fish will catch more muskies. And then we go on to catch a lot of them on every color under the sun, most of which look nothing like whats swimming around out there.
That color works. I don't believe it works because it looks like a walleye. It works because we throw it, and to a lesser degree because it's brown with a white belly, like many other fish. |
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| Pointer
That's the Point the WHOLE thing is out there.
You moved here you haven't lived here all your life, the walleye crowd is looking for has much ammo has they can find to get rid of muskies in this state and have succeeded in some cases getting less muskies stocked,
It's only a matter of tiime before somebody walks into a lakes shore public input meeting with the 10 best selling muskie baits all offered in walleye color has a way to sway the crowd.
Trivial??? Maybe so I'm not saying this is a make or break point but why do we make and buy so many walleye color baits,,there's a shortage of other options!!! Especially when we think they don't target walleye.
Bottom line the sales figures show we don't practice what we preach.
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Location: The desert | happy hooker - 8/20/2015 7:12 PM
Pointer
That's the Point the WHOLE thing is out there.
You moved here you haven't lived here all your life, the walleye crowd is looking for has much ammo has they can find to get rid of muskies in this state and have succeeded in some cases getting less muskies stocked,
It's only a matter of tiime before somebody walks into a lakes shore public input meeting with the 10 best selling muskie baits all offered in walleye color has a way to sway the crowd.
Trivial??? Maybe so I'm not saying this is a make or break point but why do we make and buy so many walleye color baits,,there's a shortage of other options!!! Especially when we think they don't target walleye.
I get what you're saying, I just don't see it as an argument that would ever hold much water with many people. I commend you for taking the stance. It would be amusing if the musky community abandoned the color pattern, if nothing else to like fun at the anti crowd.
While I did move here, I also grew up in Wisconsin. I understand it isn't as big of an issue there, but I did hear the same arguments there growing up. Especially during various attempts at increasing size limits.
I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I just think this has to be pretty far down the line on things to worry about. If this becomes a big argument, I think it'll show the anti crowd grasping at straws. |
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Location: Alex or Alek? | I understand what your saying about sales but I don't think anyone of us would tell someone that Muskie don't eat walleyes. Cfollow hit the nail on the head and said muskies take the easy meal no matter what color it is. And if the general fisherman can't understand that the dnr will and does so I don't believe they will halt stocking. |
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| Somebody knows this????
Didn't miltona for a while bow down to public pressure and get half its quota of muskies stocked for a while until recently for fear of the walleye population.
Minnesota walleye public opinion is just something we don't want to give ANY potential ammunition to. |
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| Not to sound like a jerk, but...
For the most part, people are stupid. They believe what others tell them, despite those folks having no basis in their own beliefs. And they believe what they want to believe despite what those who actually do know what they are talking about tell them.
As musky anglers, we have a difficult job trying to dissuade such beliefs when it comes to their diet, because we like to fish for them. We have a vested interest in keeping the musky population alive. Then there's the perception that we're a bunch of rich nice guys, because somehow someone decided that you have to be wealthy to musky fish.
Our best bet is not to present ourselves as musky anglers with knowledge of our quarry, because people aren't going to listen no matter what we know or what we say.
I've made more ground educating folks about muskies as any-old-angler who put two walleyes or a bunch of panfish on the table today than I ever would have proclaiming myself as a musky fisherman. The anti-musky-crowd is never going to listen to you if you come at them with that so often found high and mighty musky attitude. |
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Location: oswego, il | Just curious, do they have or these individuals have a facebook page? You could always friend them and post articles and videos that contradict their mission. |
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Location: Nowheresville, MN | Hooker, I'm with you all the way. Irony at its finest. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | I've got a few double 10s in "walleye" pattern and I don't care if you are a musky fisherman or a disgruntled walleye fisherman, if you think it looks like a walleye let alone anything found in a lake you've been foraging the wrong kind of mushrooms... |
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Location: Alex or Alek? | A lot of walleye guys use "perch", "brown trout" and "gold"(another name for walleye color) for trolling for eyes. And I am willing to bet that those are among the top among sales for Rapala. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Do not ignore this opposition. It was a similar but much smaller group that helped spell the end of stocking as we knew it on Green Bay for the past decade. Several years ago the Long Lake association petitioned legislature and the DNR to cessate use of Long Lake near the Wild Rose hatchery, as a brood lake. Despite that this was a stocked Walleye lake, boosted even moreso during the brood years, the DNR eventually caved and removed the Muskies based on this opposition, along with the fact that eggs were now available in the Bay itself. Soon after, VHS was found, bay eggs were no longer able to be used, and the now tripled in size hatchery would be mothballed. Stocking went from a tens of thousands fish per year endeavor to none or a few hundred for several years. Luckily, the WIDNR with the help of the Michigan DNR and Musky Clubs Alliance of Wisconsin has been able to restore stocking to over 10,000 for the first time in over a decade. Had it not been for a tiny opposition group led by 2 or 3 individuals, the stocking on the bay for the past ten years would not have skipped a beat.
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Location: Forest Lake, Mn. | Face palm, head desk.
I've backed away a lot over the last few years from the muskie world due to personal issues that took more energy and strength than I had with nothing much left over for anything else. When I was last really active with Muskies Inc, and the muskie world 10/12 years ago, I remember reading and posting about this same subject, on this same message board, with the same area of the state complaining about muskies eating walleyes back then. In 10 years I see we've made no progress in dealing with this. The more things change the more they stay the same. What a shame.
It's long past time for a change about this but how we get there I don't have the answer
Not pointing a finger at anyone, or group, by saying that. Just making the observation.
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MN Backtrollers will find anything to blame but themselves for decimating "!THEIR!" fish stocks. It's always been this way. It will always be this way. They truly are their own special breed. |
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Location: Hudson, WI | ToddM - 8/20/2015 8:46 PM
Just curious, do they have or these individuals have a facebook page? You could always friend them and post articles and videos that contradict their mission.
Or see if we can hack their Ashley Madison account. |
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Location: oswego, il | Moltisanti - 8/21/2015 10:13 AM
ToddM - 8/20/2015 8:46 PM
Just curious, do they have or these individuals have a facebook page? You could always friend them and post articles and videos that contradict their mission.
Or see if we can hack their Ashley Madison account.
Lol! Seriously kill them on their own social media pages, don't let them use it to their advantage. |
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | I think the "Walleye" labelled lures look much more like Brown Bullheads. Where available, Muskies do eat a lot bullheads including brown ones. Many of my most productive lures have been brown. To me, those lures look a lot more like bullheads than a walleye. When asked, I tell people that I am trying to imitate a bullhead because Muskies love them.
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| We need to shift the focus to northern pike to take the heat off us,,,the DNR pretty much thinks that our lakes are so over run with 1-4lb pike that it's a waste to stock some areas with any species because your just feeding the pike. I know I'm going to be buying more pike color baits at the expo s. |
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Location: oswego, il | Yes the best strategy moving forward is to pay attention to what color lures you are throwing. |
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| FIB pattern...
Mostly white with a red head and red fins. It's difficult to throw very far despite the fact that you want to throw it as far as you can. It works best in the slop. It's got a wide profile, and it makes a lot of noise. I believe muskies are just trying to kill it to shut it up. A lot of times they just chase it to make it go away, because while it has a high fat content, it really has no taste. In fact I believe it will actually make a Wisconsin or great lakes strain musky sick. Oh, and don't throw it after labor day. Even muskies know it shouldn't be there at that time of year. |
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Location: oswego, il | Double post, since the thread has gone south, I went with #2.
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Location: oswego, il | It is a good trolling color pattern. It would also make a great color on the fat bastard. Was that bait named after a FIB? |
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| Bondy - 8/20/2015 12:19 PM
Around here they just club em'.
Or slit their gills....
I was on the Harsens Island Ferry yesterday and talked to the guy taking cash who complained about "nobody" is catching fish this year. "It's been a #*#*ty year for fishing"....according to him. He good guyed about the walleyes not biting and then when I kinda fibbed and said "I really want to catch Muskie out here". He began to tell me to not follow the DNR Regs of harvesting 1 per season over 42" and to keep every single one. I laughed assuming he was joking..he wasn't. He was dead serious. He went on to tell me the Muskie were affecting the walleye in LSC. Completely misinformed and sick.... |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | I fish both Muskies and Walleyes. The lake I am on was stocked with Muskies for the first time 4 years ago. All the walleye guys cried foul. I tried to explain to a few locals (to no avail) how the Muskies may actually HELP walleye fishing by eating other fish (such as the overabundance of 1 lb bass and small pike) that feast on walleye fry. This year, we are starting to see Muskies in the upper 30s to 40" class. Not coincidentally, I am having one of my best years of walleye fishing EVER on the same lake! P.S. - feel free to copy and paste this post to a walleye site !
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Location: oswego, il | This lure color thing, we may be onto something here. Should we just worry about the walleye color? There is perch, northern pike, bluegill, crappie, largemouth and smallmouth bass, even nine dollar bass has the word bass in it. Then I thought, #*#*! Loon! BABY LOON! Just how long do you think it will be untill bird lovers connect the dots? We will be battling them too!!!
What needs to happen is this. We need to stop making and using these color patterns. Shad, whitefish, Cisco and roughfish patterns are still ok. Maybe we need to add some color patterns to show that muskies are good for a fishery. How about adding a goby, rusty crayfish, zebra mussel and cormorant patterns. Not only do these color patterns need to be made, we as responsible musky fisherman need to buy and use them. Send a positive message!
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Location: The desert | ToddM - 8/22/2015 11:21 AM
This lure color thing, we may be onto something here. Should we just worry about the walleye color? There is perch, northern pike, bluegill, crappie, largemouth and smallmouth bass, even nine dollar bass has the word bass in it. Then I thought, #*#*! Loon! BABY LOON! Just how long do you think it will be untill bird lovers connect the dots? We will be battling them too!!!
What needs to happen is this. We need to stop making and using these color patterns. Shad, whitefish, Cisco and roughfish patterns are still ok. Maybe we need to add some color patterns to show that muskies are good for a fishery. How about adding a goby, rusty crayfish, zebra mussel and cormorant patterns. Not only do these color patterns need to be made, we as responsible musky fisherman need to buy and use them. Send a positive message!
What about all black baits? Do we need to worry about the black lives matter group protesting at accesses? They've already hit the mall of America! |
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Location: oswego, il | Holy Crap! Now I know why they call you Pointer! Do we need a nation after us? I am going to play it safe and paint my baits white, or grey. |
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Location: The desert | ToddM - 8/22/2015 12:14 PM
Holy Crap! Now I know why they call you Pointer! Do we need a nation after us? I am going to play it safe and paint my baits white, or grey.
All white? That's racist. |
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| It's save to use red now that the Soviet union has dissolved,, and China is one of our allies-they make about a third of the musky tackle..
FIB pattern???? The only FIB pattern I know that works is for small town chamber of comercess to print brochures stating that there's "trophy" potential in the area and then mail them off to all the Illinois sportsmans clubs.
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Location: oswego, il | We are confusing things here folks. We have established that muskies eating certain colored baits is a bad thing. We have to come up with colors/patterns that will not be offensive to anyone. Was thinking orange with black dots but that is too close to someone with jaundice that has chicken pox. I am at a loss here, bare wood isn't an option, tree huggers..... |
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| Theres going to be a public input meeting on this in that area there always is.
I say let's take the muskie diet survey print it on the back of T shirts and wear them there????
And to apease/ bribe the crowd we serve them a tilapia lunch outside,,that way we show that not just muskies but musky anglers won't eat walleyes. |
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Location: Bemidji | When the anti muskie group was quoted in the paper saying "that's a huge muskie" am I the only one that thought of Duece Bigalow? |
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Location: Minnesota | ToddM - 8/23/2015 12:22 PM
We are confusing things here folks. We have established that muskies eating certain colored baits is a bad thing. We have to come up with colors/patterns that will not be offensive to anyone. Was thinking orange with black dots but that is too close to someone with jaundice that has chicken pox. I am at a loss here, bare wood isn't an option, tree huggers.....
The only true solution to not offending anyone is to take your paddle board out to your favorite spot and begin to meditate. Once in a state of meditation, visualize yourself catching the fish not by rod and reel, but through a deep inner connection with the fish.
Once you've connected with the fish of a lifetime and held a silent but very real conversation with the fish, take a photograph with your mind and release it back to the water just as you release all of your guilt.
It's unoffensive to anyone and it costs a hell of a lot less. Here's a picture of the 84"er I caught last weekend.
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Location: varies | lhprop1 - 8/25/2015 9:59 AM
ToddM - 8/23/2015 12:22 PM
We are confusing things here folks. We have established that muskies eating certain colored baits is a bad thing. We have to come up with colors/patterns that will not be offensive to anyone. Was thinking orange with black dots but that is too close to someone with jaundice that has chicken pox. I am at a loss here, bare wood isn't an option, tree huggers.....
The only true solution to not offending anyone is to take your paddle board out to your favorite spot and begin to meditate. Once in a state of meditation, visualize yourself catching the fish not by rod and reel, but through a deep inner connection with the fish.
Once you've connected with the fish of a lifetime and held a silent but very real conversation with the fish, take a photograph with your mind and release it back to the water just as you release all of your guilt.
It's unoffensive to anyone and it costs a hell of a lot less. Here's a picture of the 84"er I caught last weekend.
What's the going guide rate on such an outing? Does that include Colorado grown products? |
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Location: Minnesota | rodbender - 8/25/2015 10:33 AM
lhprop1 - 8/25/2015 9:59 AM
The only true solution to not offending anyone is to take your paddle board out to your favorite spot and begin to meditate. Once in a state of meditation, visualize yourself catching the fish not by rod and reel, but through a deep inner connection with the fish.
Once you've connected with the fish of a lifetime and held a silent but very real conversation with the fish, take a photograph with your mind and release it back to the water just as you release all of your guilt.
It's unoffensive to anyone and it costs a hell of a lot less. Here's a picture of the 84"er I caught last weekend.
What's the going guide rate on such an outing? Does that include Colorado grown products?
Can you put a price tag on inner peace and unlimited trophy fish? I can't. |
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Location: oswego, il | You will see me at the sport shows next year selling meditation balancing paddles that rest upon your out stretched palms. You know some of these guys are going out to their favorite late fall wind blown reefs. I have a feeling we may see as many as 10-15 meditators around places like comet island on lake vermillion. Make way for ToddM's Musky Meditation Guise Service. I guarantee a catch. I do seminars too!
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Location: Minnesota | ToddM - 8/25/2015 11:04 AM
You will see me at the sport shows next year selling meditation balancing paddles that rest upon your out stretched palms. You know some of these guys are going out to their favorite late fall wind blown reefs. I have a feeling we may see as many as 10-15 meditators around places like comet island on lake vermillion. Make way for ToddM's Musky Meditation Guise Service. I guarantee a catch. I do seminars too!
Best of all, the season never closes. |
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Location: varies | Just look for the guy sporting yoga pants and too tight tank top. |
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Location: West Chester, OH | rodbender - 8/25/2015 12:22 PM
Just look for the guy sporting yoga pants and too tight tank top.
Oh, he wears yoga pants?? I thought he stares at yoga pants....
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Location: Smith Creek | rodbender - 8/25/2015 11:22 AM
Just look for the guy sporting yoga pants and too tight tank top.
And blue rubber gloves. |
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Location: oswego, il | I just founded the PMMTT. The Professional Musky Meditation Tournament Trail. Working on the dates, locations and sponsors as we speak. |
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| And Crocs
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| cincinnati - 8/25/2015 1:00 PM
rodbender - 8/25/2015 12:22 PM
Just look for the guy sporting yoga pants and too tight tank top.
Oh, he wears yoga pants?? I thought he stares at yoga pants....
Yes, in the mirror. |
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| Lol. Even though the topic has gone to Mars it is hilarious. So... Has anyone had experience in a similar situation where stocking of muskies went through? Just wondering what went well and what is the best route to take in convincing others. West Battle is one of my favorite musky lakes but it would be nice to have a smaller lake as an option when the wind gets out of control in that area. Beers is kind of a hall from Battle Lake. So long as this meeting doesn't fall on a date I end up working the night shift I would like to head up there. Personally I would love to just stick to the research that has been done but based on the political climate of the past 15 years it will be ignored and he who cries the loudest will be heard. What works in these situatuions? |
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Location: oswego, il | Go where their voice is heard, social media, lake association meetings, post/bring the truth with you. It was touched on earlier in this thread but lure color seemed to gain the most traction. |
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Location: The desert | What is the best paddle board for envisioning throwing double 10s? |
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| Actually there should be a car pool organized when the meeting happens,,,the Anti"s show up if you have gone to these public input meetings the dnr and muskies need has much help has they can get. |
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Location: varies | happy hooker - 8/26/2015 6:26 PM
Actually there should be a car pool organized when the meeting happens,,,the Anti"s show up if you have gone to these public input meetings the dnr and muskies need has much help has they can get.
Road trip!
Bring the PMTT to Pelican. 100 boats on 4000 acres.  |
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Location: Ludington, MI | This uninformed attitude toward muskies is especially troublesome where spearing is legal. My only hope is that guys see the 50 speared locally here last year and decide to let the shorts grow so they, too, can get a mantle piece. I don't love the idea of people taking trophies with spears, but if it increases the population of 40+ fish, I guess it's a small step in the right direction or sideways and forward, anyway. |
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Location: Grand Marais, MN | I've worked in ottertail county off and on for the last 5 years, have gotten to know some of the ring leaders behind the anti muskie guys.
essentially, swimmers and skiers want lakes to be swimming pools with no life of any kind, walleye guys have been keeping limits for their limit for 50 years every time they are out or (as lots of em are north dakotans) comparing our lakes to lakes like devils lake.
they want someone to blame besides themselves for overfishing and overdeveloping those lakes.
Strangely enough, I've caught many a walleye and panfish in my last many years up there. I sure haven't seen any sort of decline. My guess is that they aren't great fishermen, either. |
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