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| Does anyone have this boat? Does it draft as shallow as the X-190? I can't find many pictures of it. How do you like the boat?
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It will float in a foot. The X190 is about the same with the same load. Both are V hulls. |
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| So they both can run skinny water the same? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Define 'run skinny water'. I wouldn't be tearing around wot in 3' in any boat unless I really was sure of the area. |
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| Will they both launch at not so good landings the same? Do the run good with a 175 H.P. motor? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | They are both 19' class boats, and both are rated 200.
Didn't we go through this already?
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| It's a big purchase and I can't afford to get a new boat every year like some of these guy's. That's why I ask a lot of questions. I wan't to do it right. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | No worries. |
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| I Run a 1890 GT have had 3 of them, best musky boat I have fished out of. Tons of room, front deck is huge. Can fish 4 guys from boat. Rod locker fits 9' rods.
I have fished in 20" of water with it and drove full speed in 2.5 feet of water no problem. One of the launches I use is shallow as hell this year no problem launching boat at all. Tons of storage boat handles rough water great
I would recommend getting one for sure.
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| You can't go wrong with th 1890 I have a tiller and is the best boat I have been in (imo) |
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| Do you have an option of trailers?
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Only options are steel or fiberglass matching fenders. Has to be a tandem with brakes. |
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| Is there a big difference in price? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Not a big difference, no. The matching glass fenders look good and are good for resale, too. |
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| Sorry I meant between the Tuffy 1890 and the Tuffy X-190.
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Location: Hayward, WI | I think you've got to figure out how to go take a look at the boats you are considering, and talk with a dealer to get quotes on various configurations.
Nothing will replace being able to see them in person and hopefully be able to ride/drive one. If you are serious about purchasing and are split on which model I think it's the only way to go. |
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| Agreed without touching them it's hard to make a choice with just blog info |
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Location: Hayward, WI | In addition to my previous comment I will say this - my 1760 GT is a great boat. Runs rough water well, does not seem to draft much water, and is pretty stable at rest. It feels wider on the interior than the 84" width would suggest (feels much wider than my old Alumacraft Navigator 165 at 82" wide).
I saw an 1890 GT when I looked at my 1760 and that is a ROOOOMY boat. The 1760 is not a small boat but the 1890 makes it look small. The width is very apparent on the 1890, and I have to think that boat would be VERY stable at rest.
Never seen an X190. Neat looking boat, but the deeper walleye/musky styles appealed to me more, were more available in a Tiller, and fit my budget better. |
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| I think you made up your mind go with the 1890 and you won't be disappointed |
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| I fished out of a Tuffy X-190 last week it's a sweet boat but rides a little different then I expected. The things that are really nice about it is the casting deck is huge. It's much more roomy then it looks. It's also very easy to launch and load by yourself. I know you guy's are probably really annoyed but like I said it's a big investment and I wan't to do it right. I can't afford to get new boats all the time. This is a boat I wanna keep. |
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | What didn't you like about the ride on the 190? |
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| "it's a sweet boat but rides a little different then I expected..."
Yes, tell us more about the pros/cons and impressions of the x-190 ride... |
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| Jeff Hanson - 7/12/2015 8:17 PM
I Run a 1890 GT have had 3 of them, best musky boat I have fished out of. Tons of room, front deck is huge. Can fish 4 guys from boat. Rod locker fits 9' rods.
I have fished in 20" of water with it and drove full speed in 2.5 feet of water no problem. One of the launches I use is shallow as hell this year no problem launching boat at all. Tons of storage boat handles rough water great
I would recommend getting one for sure.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com
Jeff, what kind of performance do u get? Close to 40? Did you put a hydrofoil on this one too?
Do u need it to stop porpoising? |
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1.It's extremely easy to handle alone.
2.It's really fast.
3.it's lower to the water making it so nice not to have to lean over all the time for figure eights after every cast.
4.it's a beautiful boat.
5. It's much more roomy then it looks.
6.It tracks really well.
7.It can fish three awesome.
8.It can handle rough water pretty well.
Cons
1.The only com I can think of which wouldn't stop me from buying it is it tends to tilt left a little when you go fast but I'm sure it has to do with weight distribution.
All in all it could be one of the best Musky fishing boats ever made.
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Location: Hayward, WI | muskyfishing89 - 7/14/2015 12:14 PM
Pros
1.It's extremely easy to handle alone.
2.It's really fast.
3.it's lower to the water making it so nice not to have to lean over all the time for figure eights after every cast.
4.it's a beautiful boat.
5. It's much more roomy then it looks.
6.It tracks really well.
7.It can fish three awesome.
8.It can handle rough water pretty well.
Cons
1.The only com I can think of which wouldn't stop me from buying it is it tends to tilt left a little when you go fast but I'm sure it has to do with weight distribution.
All in all it could be one of the best Musky fishing boats ever made.
I think you'll find that the 1760 and 1890 will also have most of the pros that you listed. All of them will be pretty fast if maxed out with HP in a console. The 1760 will be the tightest to fish 3 people because it's a fair amount shorter than the 1890 or X190, but fishing 3 is certainly possible in the 1760 as well.
My 1760 tiller also lists to the left at cruising speed with another passenger. Even my wife sitting on the left side will cause it to list slightly. I think these hulls do a good job of getting hull out of the water even at relatively lower speeds which probably makes them a little more likely to list. Weight distribution might help, but you might only pack just so much stuff that there isn't a lot to move. I really can't adjust much in my boat to change the way it rides.
I really don't find it to be much of an issue though.
Either way: 1760, 1890, or X-190 would probably all treat you well. The choice between them is going to come down to primary usage and personal preference.
Some day I want a 2100 Tiller with 250. Now THAT is a boat. 
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| I had talked to one other individual that also said his x-190 "lists" a little left at slower speeds but straightens out as the speed increases...
Is this also possibly a reflection of type of prop, hole the engine is mounted in, etc and less about weight distribution? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Combination of all of that, and using the trim button. |
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| KSauers - 7/14/2015 9:24 AM
Jeff Hanson - 7/12/2015 8:17 PM
I Run a 1890 GT have had 3 of them, best musky boat I have fished out of. Tons of room, front deck is huge. Can fish 4 guys from boat. Rod locker fits 9' rods.
I have fished in 20" of water with it and drove full speed in 2.5 feet of water no problem. One of the launches I use is shallow as hell this year no problem launching boat at all. Tons of storage boat handles rough water great
I would recommend getting one for sure.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com
Jeff, what kind of performance do u get? Close to 40? Did you put a hydrofoil on this one too?
I have a 90HP 4 Stroke mercury again with a 17pitch 4 blade trophy plus prop same as last boat but am getting 38mph I could do 40 in my last one with same set up. I have not put on Hydrofoil yet new motor has a better hole shot so I have not needed it. I bought one thinking I needed it again but sofar have not.
Thanks,
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com
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| If I go glass the 1890 tiller is the only one I'm considering. When the time gets near,whenever that's gonna be, I'm going to take a look at yours and hopefully hitch a ride,.
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Tuffy 1890 G series