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Location: MN | Anyone not fishing big Blades Mag 8's and larger? I have to be honest I really don't enjoy casting them. I built a few double 8 fluted Indiana's and they are much more pleasant to cast. I'm running a 400D |
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Location: oswego, il | Magnum Indiana blades are not bad either. You just need the right reel with good cranking power. |
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| I fought it, but finally got a tranx/custom dadson rod for them, they are easy to throw now and I do believe a lot of the time will out produce smaller baits. They all have their place, so it is good be able to throw them all. |
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| I have never caught a musky on a dbl 10 but plenty on smaller bucktails. |
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Location: MN | Try a stiffer rod. A 400D should pull 10's at a decent clip without killing you, assuming you are a decent size dude.
Or just buy a tranx and pull them in with ease. There are definitely times when cowgirls and supermodels are the ticket. |
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| When the big double blade bucktail craze started I used them every day until I realized I wasn't catching any more then I used to with my customized # 6 Vibrax Musky buck. All I was really doing was wearing out reels and the guys and my arms. So I experimented for 2 years and I would run 1 guy with a large buck tail and 1 guy with the smaller buck tail and I found we caught as many or more fish on the smaller bucktail most days. And I don't fish for small fish either so this was more big fish for us. I think the reason for more fish on the smaller bucktail was simply a much faster retrieve which meant more casts which equals more water covered at the end of the day. However, some days they seamed to like a bigger bait so I always have a few on board. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Indiana blades are a nice alternative to colorado blades as they don’t produce as much drag, which then means you can go larger without putting as much strain on yourself and your gear. Another option is you can cup your colorado blades a little more than they already are and this will also make them easier to retrieve. I haven’t tried any of the blades out their where they run one blade smaller than the other, but that might also work. |
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Location: MN | Nershi - 7/8/2015 9:00 AM
Try a stiffer rod. A 400D should pull 10's at a decent clip without killing you, assuming you are a decent size dude.
Or just buy a tranx and pull them in with ease. There are definitely times when cowgirls and supermodels are the ticket.
"assuming you are a decent size dude." This is part of the issue. I'm not.
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Location: Smith Creek | Cast a Supermodel for a while. Then the 10's will seem easy.
The reel is definitely not the problem. |
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Location: Wisconsin | I use a 400 lexa 6.3:1 and have no issue at all bringing in cowgirls fast. I'm only 23 years old but I credit the 9' TI XH paired with the lexa. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I don't think double 10's are hard to retrieve. I think they are hard to figure 8. Using either moderate speed reels (24-26" per crank) with power handles or a Diawa Saltist, I can pretty easily bring them in all day long. Trying to absolutely burn them is harder, but a moderate to fairly fast pace isn't bad.
It's making big figure 8's with them all day that can start to wear on me after a while. I still use them a lot though. I feel they can have better calling power when fishing them over deeper water, in big waves, etc.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i agree with curleytail ... get the right tools for the job and 10's are no problem to fish all day every day ... pounders too if you learn how to throw them. |
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Location: Duluth, MN | I gave up on 10's a couple years ago also as the elbows and shoulders just couldn't take it and found the Esox Assault 9's were easier to pull than 8's of other brands yet you still get a pretty good size profile.
And last year i switched to a heavier rod...i throw pretty much everything with a St. Croix Big Dawg...best all around rod i've ever thrown. I think the rod makes a bigger difference than the reel in most situations. |
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Location: Detroit River | I don't throw the 10's that much anymore & all of the latest ones I made I used 8's. The 10's really did a number on my shoulder. I suffer from bicep tendonitis & the doc said that I need to cut back on fishing. He also has been telling me I need to lose weight but that's not going to happen either.  |
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | I have a total of one muskie ever on double-10s. It seems that so many people throw them that the fish are just conditioned to them. We've actually had much better luck on double-12s and double-8s. Even so, spinner baits are by far the most productive lures in my arsenal and its a rare day that bucktails of any sort work better than similar size/color spinner baits. The spiiner baits are simply so much more versatile and can be driven through the weed tops rather then having to be casted over them. |
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| And last year i switched to a heavier rod...i throw pretty much everything with a St. Croix Big Dawg...best all around rod i've ever thrown. I think the rod makes a bigger difference than the reel in most situations.
I couldn't agree more. I never understood the "softer tip" argument when it comes to Dbl 10's especially in the figure 8.
The Big Dawg, or the similar XH 8.5' in the Premiere Series, is the best all around rod in the lineup. Especially so, for shorter guys such as myself. |
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Location: Minnesota | I'm one of the few .I have yet to catch a fish on any dubbed 8s or 10s . I've seen a lot of fish but no bites .I have a few on Shumway flashers but I think those were 7s. As for cranking them in that's no problem right tool for the job and it's all good. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | all I can say is wow...anyone not throwing them is, well, nuts... they are musky crack plain and simple. I don't mean just double 10s...8s/9s/10s/12s all need to be in the water.... a lot. I pretty have a rule now that at least one guy in the boat has double blades going at all times ..(unless it becomes clear they want something else)
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| I've had more production with the dbl 9s than any other lure in the past few years. Not sure if that's because of the lure, other experience gained, or just because that's what I throw most of the time.
I've tried 10s, but the extra work involved reduces the fun factor a bit, at least for me. |
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| We have been throwing blades a lot this year with one guy tossing a single 8 and Indiana 9s and the other throwing double 8s-13s. The single blades have out produced doubles by a land slide. |
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| out of 25 fish caught in my boat this year all but 2 were caught on jr cowgirls. Last year single blade bucktails worked much better. I let the fish tell me what they want. With 2 or 3 people in the boat we always have someone throwing one of each until we find what is working. That's just what I've noticed the last couple years anyway |
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Location: Waukesha, WI, USA | Wow, can't imagine not throwing double 8's and 10's in summer. Last two years they have out produced everything else in my boat |
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| achotrod - 7/9/2015 3:00 PM
We have been throwing blades a lot this year with one guy tossing a single 8 and Indiana 9s and the other throwing double 8s-13s. The single blades have out produced doubles by a land slide.
Would be curious if you would have had the action on the singles blades without a big double in the water. |
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| Big blades have to be a part of your arsenal..they are just too deadly in certain situations .. Game changer for night fishing for sure, that being said with over 60 in the net this year, I think 7 have been on blades small or large.. That will change as summer and early fall fishing are key times for blades any time you have fish shallow.. |
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| I use the double indiana # 9's as a throw back lure on a follow-up ,,,, had good luck this year with my home made single #6 colorado nickel blade, #4 clevis, black bucktail on a spiral wire from rollie&helens, a 1 ounce egg sinker just ahead of the bucktail and a 3/0 mustad short-shank round-bend treble hook ,,,,, the whole thing is under 5"s long ---- goodluck
PS -- place a couple 1/8" dia. nickel beads between the clevis and the egg sinker ---- |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | If you aren't throwing big blades, you are missing out on big fish. ( on waters that have big fish, not IL and Northern WI green pencil factories)
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| BenR - 7/9/2015 8:02 PM
achotrod - 7/9/2015 3:00 PM
We have been throwing blades a lot this year with one guy tossing a single 8 and Indiana 9s and the other throwing double 8s-13s. The single blades have out produced doubles by a land slide.
Would be curious if you would have had the action on the singles blades without a big double in the water.
Im normally throwing the singles from the front of the boat and my brother throwing doubles from the back. |
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| Not throwing bigger blades, 9's and up, is not a good idea on the waters I fish. BUT...not throwing smaller stuff is even a bigger mistake IMO. It's always nice to have another guy in the boat to mix it up. If it's daylight hours and not overcast/windy, I'm probably not throwing big stuff. After dark or windy...that's a different stiry. FWIW, I've caught more muskies casting with musky candy's than anything else. You've gotta keep an open mind and not get stuck in a rut. Hell, the 2 fish I caught last night were on a 8"jointed Believer on the shallow eye slow rolled like a Creeper. Would I have caught those fish on a double 10??? I dunno but my buddy in the front of the boat didnt. |
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Location: Lake County Illinois | I also really like and do well on smaller inline blades with no clevis similar to Panther Martin type bucktails. |
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Location: Waukee, IA | I just got back from LOTW and my best bait was a double 8 spanky. I like cowgirls, but can't cover the water as fast and my figure 8's get sloppy. I'm 6'6" and 225lb so it's not that I can't do it, I just don't have any reason to expend more energy for the same results. |
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Location: S.W. WI | BNelson - 7/9/2015 1:17 PM
all I can say is wow...anyone not throwing them is, well, nuts... they are musky crack plain and simple.
^^ Agree... that's Crazieness. |
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| Saturday morning there I am throwing double 8's with no luck at all and my buddy switches randomly to a baby girl black and orange and BAM! 2nd cast a 41.5 incher comes up and smashes it on the 8. I haven't thrown that bait since early spring but you can bet your ass Ill be throwing it again real soon. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | thefrgt10 - 7/13/2015 7:34 AM
Saturday morning there I am throwing double 8's with no luck at all and my buddy switches randomly to a baby girl black and orange and BAM! 2nd cast a 41.5 incher comes up and smashes it on the 8. I haven't thrown that bait since early spring but you can bet your ass Ill be throwing it again real soon.
so a random different colored lure that a 41" fish ate has you making sweeping assumptions about it being a magic bait?
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Location: Eastern Ontario | thefrgt10 - 7/13/2015 8:34 AM
Saturday morning there I am throwing double 8's with no luck at all and my buddy switches randomly to a baby girl black and orange and BAM! 2nd cast a 41.5 incher comes up and smashes it on the 8. I haven't thrown that bait since early spring but you can bet your ass Ill be throwing it again real soon.
But that is the only lure that was put in that spot at that time. I truly believe that location and timing are much more important than the actual lure or colour and that any number of lures would have produced in that spot at that time. I'm really not interested in follows I'm looking for reaction strikes so I'm comfortable putting a couple of PROVEN lures on a couple of rods and I'm good for the day. I have fished my home lake for over 30 years so I know the spots, I have an idea of times or conditions, and I use proven lures and if that 45 year old kid in the back of the boat wants to use 35 lures in 28 colours he's wasting time better spent on making good casts. |
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Location: Smith Creek | I used 10's for an entire season a few years back, next year due to some tendonitis I used double 8's for an entire season.
Same waters. At the end of the year my numbers were exactly the same but the average size was +4" on the 10's. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Flambeauski - 7/16/2015 7:54 AM
I used 10's for an entire season a few years back, next year due to some tendonitis I used double 8's for an entire season.
Same waters. At the end of the year my numbers were exactly the same but the average size was +4" on the 10's.
the JR Cowgirls are Magnum 8's right? I will say I have not noticed a dropoff in size whatsoever when using those. The other 8's seem more condusive to numbers...sometimes will bag some big fish, but i have seen big fish ignore them and move behind me on bigger blades as the summer progresses fairly often |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I'd agree w the 9s... some call them Mag 8s..I just call em 9s but I have had great luck w those ..I rarely throw 8s, as I just end up grabbing some 9s instead... |
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Location: Smith Creek | Not sure, I went from Cowgirls (10's) to Shumway's Flasher (8's).
Obviously there's hundreds of other factors that may have played into it, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.
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Location: Detroit River | Last year on LSC I probably would have agreed about ditching the big blades because I was using double 8's catching a 50, losing a close to mid 50, a couple of 48's, a 47, a 46 & a couple of 45's all on double showgirls. When I was throwing 10's last year I wasn't even getting follows let alone strikes. This year is completely different. I'm throwing 8's in the front of the boat with only 1 follow & my buddy is in the back throwing 10's with musky all around him (some in the net) like strippers in the nudey bar swarming around a rich guy handing out $100 bills. |
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| Haha^^
The action in the last few weeks seems to have changed, I am now seeing more fish on double 9/10s bringing them in a moderate pace then burning single blades. |
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Saying no to Big Bladed Bucktails?