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Location: With my son on the water | Okay
I always thought it was bright day bright bait and dark day dark bait, but I read an article by Jim Saric in the dentist office (don't know what issue) that kind of threw a wrench in it. I can't remember all the details but he discussed black and silver on bright days and copper over copper on dark days. That is not really the bright day bright bait or dark day dark bait theory.
What do you guys use as a guide to determine lure color?
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| Depends on water clarity. For me I drop a lure in the water about a foot or 2 down I'm just looking to see the outline of the bait in the water not a sharp image. Some waters bright other clearer water a more natural approach. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | The waters I normally fish when casting are usually stained and I put a firetiger suick on one rod and a brown spinnerbait with one brass and one flame blade and I'm good for the day or night sun or cloud. Timing and location are more important than the colour of your bait. The more time spent changing baits the fewer casts you will make.For me the most important thing with a jerk bait is that i can see it. I'm the puppeteer that makes that thing dance and works it through cover. If you believe in bait swaping doesn't this increase the odds of having the wrong bait at the right place or the right bait at the wrong time. Dr. Bruce Tufts ( Queens University )told me that the biggest triggering factor for any lure is verticle bars and this guy knows fish.
When trolling on the Larry i usually have something perchy in tow. I favour brown perch the two guys I fish with like glitter perch and black perch we don't do a lot of colour changing and have all caught fish day and night sun or cloud.
Most of us have two hobbies fishing and lure collecting. A guy that taught me a fair bit 30 years ago about finding these critters only owned about 6 lures and I can't remember any that weren't black.
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Although I've caught lots of fish on wooden suicks this afternoon i caught my first fish on a plastic one, firetiger of course I think I may like them.
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | btfish - 6/25/2015 5:11 AM
Okay
I always thought it was bright day bright bait and dark day dark bait, but I read an article by Jim Saric in the dentist office (don't know what issue) that kind of threw a wrench in it. I can't remember all the details but he discussed black and silver on bright days and copper over copper on dark days. That is not really the bright day bright bait or dark day dark bait theory.
What do you guys use as a guide to determine lure color?
Thanks and have a good day. :)
Black n silver is a very versatile bait that can work in just about any type of lake or light condition.
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Location: Detroit River | Black & silver as well as white & silver have always been a good sunny day colors for me & on those mostly cloudy days it's been copper.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Muskies look up...all the time. Eye placement. Most strikes eventually result from the fish seeing the lure above it, just like most fish.
If that's a fact, and it is, then what's the background against which the lure will be silhouetted?
The sky. On a dark day, it's a dark day because it's cloudy. Clouds are light gray to white. Dark lure contrasts nicely. Bright day, the sky is blue, and the further one goes down in the water column the sky goes deep violet due to refraction/absorption of light. Bright lure contrasts nicely.
Black is basically the absence of color. ALWAYS good. White is all colors present. Always good. 'Silver' metal is basically white if it's real, and a compound color if it's paint and is 'light' colored. Don't confuse chrome with silver, chrome is a mirror reflecting what light hits it.
'Copper' is a metal, and reflects light in the yellowish end of the spectrum. 'Copper' paint is a compound color mixing reds, yellows, and sometimes green that is reddish/brown to yellowish/brown, a dark color. |
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| Black with white bars. Or if you're feeling adventurous, switch to white with black bars. |
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Location: Illinois | Nice post Steve! Always good to get advice with sound reasoning behind it. Well done! |
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Location: Minnetonka | I focus on contrast over color and there's no better contrast than black and white. I might start looking into red and yellow though. McDonald's uses it to make me eat...and it's effective for them. |
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Location: oswego, il | Steve is talking additive color vs subtractive but basically right.:-) |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | the article was appropriately placed next to a toilet ... |
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| A long time ago, a guide once told me when fishing with cranks or jerkbaits, its more important to pay attention to the bottom or belly color of a lure then the top. Read Steve's post again! Kdawg |
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| Color does matter, but it's only one factor. While Steve's post is factually sound and a good "base level" to start with, there really are no hard and fast rules because there are so many variables on any given day. For example, on Kakagi Lake...we found that white baits were "magic" on cloudy days...and thats exactly the opposite of Steve's base case.
Last year I played around with some colors on a Spanky Bait. People were laughing at the bait as Dan Moats tied it at the Jan 2014 Musky Show. We weren't laughing on Eagle Lake in August 2014. Additionally, on Eagle Lake...I was told long ago for minnow baits to go Black/silver on cloudy days and brown/gold on sunny days. This hasn't disappointed.
If someone put a gun to my head as asked for 3 rules on color, I would say the following:
1.)start by knowing the forage...that's the starting point. Then scale up or down the "hotness" of the color dependent upon the day's conditions. For example, if you're going "Perchy" on a Depth Raider. Start with natural perch. If you need hotter...scale it up to Miller Merch. If need even hotter...scale it up to FireTiger, etc. IF going the other way to have less hotness of color, scale it down by going to brown pikie
2.)Look at the color wheel, especially with buck tails, and go for contrast. There is a reason lemon blades with purple skirt is a good combo. Or red blades with green skirt. This is what i did in the story above with the Spanky Baits.
3.)watch what everyone else is throwing...do the opposite.
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Location: NE Wisconsin | Baits are made to catch fish.
Baits are colored to catch fishermen.
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Read an article years ago about Mark Windell he would put a bucktail on and power cast untill he caught a fish . he would then take it off and give it to his client or boat partner. He would then put a totally opposite colour on and continue to catch fish. If our baits had to accurately mimic the prey no lure would catch fish. There is so much more than colour involved in triggering a strike. Lure manufactures would have you believe that you need every bait in 35 colours but if we all only bought what we really need the manufactures would soon be out of business.
I ONLY WISH I KNEW 30 YEARS AGO WHAT I THINK I KNOW NOW AND COULD PRACTICE WHAT I PREACH.
I've got it down to only fishing a very limited selection of baits, but as far as collecting I'm like a crow and will pick up anything that shines. I keep telling myself that most of the hoard in the basement came off raffle tables but I don't know that that is actually true. |
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| horsehunter - 6/27/2015 9:30 AM
Read an article years ago about Mark Windell he would put a bucktail on and power cast untill he caught a fish . he would then take it off and give it to his client or boat partner. He would then put a totally opposite colour on and continue to catch fish.
And see, that's funny. Cause there have been numerous times on Eagle Lake where I have seen the EXACT opposite. A few stories:
One time my buddy fishing behind me popped two fish. This was during the height of the Dbl 10 craze. He felt bad, and tossed the "root beer" Spanky up to me. I popped two fish. And before someone says, "It's the action of the lure." Not true, I was casting a Spanky bait that has caught numerous fish to 51". He put that bait on when we switched...didn't catch anything. In fact, it was the very next day fishing out of the middle that I caught the 51" on the bait the fish didn't so much as sniff the day prior. Go figure.
Another time, the fish were on a custom bulldog (black with white tail). Nobody else was seeing anything. We put a white mister twister on the back of a Black on Black bucktail...fish all of the sudden were on that.
I suspect, as we both said, there are so many factors involved and color is but one of them. My thought is that on Eagle Lake, pressure has also something to do with it and is is a LARGE factor in the equation. I just don't know. However, what I DO know from long experience is that sometimes color absolutely matters and can be the deciding factor. I also know that every lake is different, for whatever reason.
There's just no way to generalize it and come up with any hard and fast rules. Anyone who does so is severely limiting themselves. You need to experiment on any given lake. I have no doubt people can watch fish on a limited number of baits and colors...but that doesn't mean that color doesn't matter. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | MstrMusky - 6/27/2015 8:43 AM Color does matter, but it's only one factor. While Steve's post is factually sound and a good "base level" to start with, there really are no hard and fast rules because there are so many variables on any given day. For example, on Kakagi Lake...we found that white baits were "magic" on cloudy days...and thats exactly the opposite of Steve's base case.Last year I played around with some colors on a Spanky Bait. People were laughing at the bait as Dan Moats tied it at the Jan 2014 Musky Show. We weren't laughing on Eagle Lake in August 2014. Additionally, on Eagle Lake...I was told long ago for minnow baits to go Black/silver on cloudy days and brown/gold on sunny days. This hasn't disappointed. If someone put a gun to my head as asked for 3 rules on color, I would say the following: 1. )start by knowing the forage...that's the starting point. Then scale up or down the "hotness" of the color dependent upon the day's conditions. For example, if you're going "Perchy" on a Depth Raider. Start with natural perch. If you need hotter...scale it up to Miller Merch. If need even hotter...scale it up to FireTiger, etc. IF going the other way to have less hotness of color, scale it down by going to brown pikie 2. )Look at the color wheel, especially with buck tails, and go for contrast. There is a reason lemon blades with purple skirt is a good combo. Or red blades with green skirt. This is what i did in the story above with the Spanky Baits. 3. )watch what everyone else is throwing...do the opposite. Read the post again. 'Black is basically the absence of color. ALWAYS good. White is all colors present. Always good. 'Silver' metal is basically white if it's real, and a compound color if it's paint and is 'light' colored. Don't confuse chrome with silver, chrome is a mirror reflecting what light hits it.' You disagreed with what you agreed with.
Of course it's contrast that matters, that was the point, if we want to discuss color in the water column we have a long discussion ahead. Recommending specific compound colors? They may not be what you think they are when they hit the water (and probably are not). Additionally, paint very rarely comes close to matching actual colors on the baitfish or prey species, paint frequently looks good to you but isn't at all the same as the real thing. We've proven that time after time with underwater video. What hard and fast rules are you talking about? I don't see any even insinuated in what I posted, just a guideline to make sense out of what the fish can see best and why.
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Location: Illinois | I sure hope this thread continues, lots of good stuff, could use another SLEDism though.
Not to disagree with anything said, but I agree that certain days on Eagle, color does matter. A buddy and I had the opportunity to spend a day on the water with Cal Ritchie, and although I was in the front of the boat, my buddy had 3x's the follows I had. We were both using jointed depth-raiders. He had a perch color and I a cisco colored, but for the first 3 hours all I did was marvel at the fish he was bringing to the boat. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | if Cal had you throwing jointed raiders on Eagle the fish were neutral or negative and the lazy slob came out last cuz she was finally curious enough to get off her fat assce and see what was going on. it had nothing to do with color ...
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| I've seen days on Eagle where color seemed to make all the difference as well. Or so we thought...
Could it be that this or that color double 10 has a certain vibration or sound that the other one did not? Could it be the PERSON throwing the lure and they way they work it compared to how you are working the color that isn't working today? Is it a matter of weight, how deep the lure is running, how fast or slow you are working the lure?
Not trying to debunk the fact that color matters. After a decade chasing these stupid green fish, I've found that there definitely ARE places where one color just plain works over others. But there are a LOT of variables involved in why a musky chose one lure over another to eat today. I think often times it's whatever lure that goes right over their head at any given moment, and not necessarily the right color. |
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Location: Minnesota. | To add yet another variable to this very pertinent discussion, might it be that each and every fish have their own predispositions to choosing one bait/color/style over another?
Heck, it just keeps things interesting! I hope we never figure it all out otherwise it wouldn't be as much fun. (But I could use a little bump now an' then...!!!)
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Eagle Lake is a strange one....imo, color absolutely is a factor out there on many days |
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| Interesting that we attribute human characteristics of color detection to fish. Gotta love Walt Disney.
Start with the assumption that they are not particularly intelligent creatures...
just to clarify, Im referring to the fish here and not the guy decked out like a billboard..ooops sorry,thats primarily bass fisherman. Anyway, we can surmise they feed when they are hungry which, is quite frequently. Given the number of baits out there which have over the years caught fish and then multiply by the color offerings and the permutations become staggering. So to me color is not a critical factor.
What I wanna know is, where are they? This is the million $ ? For a given season and a certain set of environmental conditions, where the heck are they staking territory?
Give me that answer and I'll throw paisley at them. I would rather throw the "wrong" color in the right place than vice versa.
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| Two strong instincts in nature....food and sex.
Imagine yourself at a bar and a gorgeous woman walks up to you and engages in suggestive talk.........do you really give a rats ass what color her dress is???
Bet she agonized for hours with her dressmaker over what color to go with. So it is with the fisherman and the lure maker.......the musky is the guy at the bar.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | wall i - 6/27/2015 6:16 PM
I would rather throw the "wrong" color in the right place
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| sworrall - 6/27/2015 10:24 AM
What hard and fast rules are you talking about? I don't see any even insinuated in what I posted, just a guideline to make sense out of what the fish can see best and why.
Here we go. I wasn't insinuating that YOU said that. I was making a general statement. And in fact, I even said everything you posted I believe to be a good "base case" for anyone to start with and then "scale" from there.
And as far as white goes, I think you may need to read again what I posted. I mentioned white on cloudy days. Your post said it's "always good" cause it reflects all colors. That has NOT been the case for me ON THAT PARTICULAR LAKE, hence why I specifically said on cloudy days. White on sunny days = no luck. White on cloudy days = money. Again, just my and my friends' experience.
Again, as I and others have stated there are so many factors involved...anyone claiming to know what's really going on I say is full of it. All we can do is relay our specific experiences on specific lakes during specific times/conditions. People can take it or leave, or call each and every one of us liars. I got the pictures and witnesses to prove it.
It's funny, it the Musky community...i always sense some people (not you Steve) try to come off as "too cool for school" (or imply they are better than others) by saying they can catch fish with only a few baits of a few colors. Sure, they can catch fish...I don't doubt that. But how do we really know that that person's 2 or 3 fish day couldn't have been a 4 or 5 or 6 fish day? Or for that matter, that the fish are just "on" that day. It cuts the other way too...maybe color didn't matter that day...the guy with the 5 or 6 fish day just happened to figure out which spots were holding more active fish and they would have hit anything.
That's why most of these posts are rather ridiculous. Don't take my post the wrong way. I see value, and posted as such, in what you posted. I think that people as experienced as we are can provide value relaying our experiences, which is why I tried to mention which specific lakes I was talking about in my examples. No harm, no foul in that... |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | wall i - 6/27/2015 6:16 PM
Interesting that we attribute human characteristics of color detection to fish. Gotta love Walt Disney.
Start with the assumption that they are not particularly intelligent creatures...
just to clarify, Im referring to the fish here and not the guy decked out like a billboard..ooops sorry,thats primarily bass fisherman. Anyway, we can surmise they feed when they are hungry which, is quite frequently. Given the number of baits out there which have over the years caught fish and then multiply by the color offerings and the permutations become staggering. So to me color is not a critical factor.
What I wanna know is, where are they? This is the million $ ? For a given season and a certain set of environmental conditions, where the heck are they staking territory?
Give me that answer and I'll throw paisley at them. I would rather throw the "wrong" color in the right place than vice versa.
No anthropomorphism here, it's well known which fishes can see color well and which cannot. It's also well known what happens to painted colors in the water column. Don't want to know? I don't get that at all. I'd like to know what the muskie has the best chance at seeing. Why? because it's a fact that muskies are 'sight feeders' to a large degree, and that strike impulse is triggered by seeing the bait to even a larger degree. Throw a lure right into the muskie's house they have trouble locating, and convert a possible fish in the net to a follow. Why only look for part of the equation...it takes the entire deal to be able to repeat success often.
I'd back up a little and do some reading on what muskies see and what happens to color in the water column, plus look at compound colors and what base color the lure maker used to MAKE that green, is it blue base with some yellow, or yellow with a little blue?
Are the hits coming in the beginning and/or middle of the cast, or mostly at the boat?
Are the hits at the boat primarily fish that suddenly appear and take it, or long 8 fish that take after several 8s?
Are hot fish following and coursing back and forth, but no hits?
And please watch the bashing. I know some seriously accomplished bass anglers, and they ain't what you describe. Sled, for example....
http://bass.outdoorsfirst.com/
Scott Martin kicked some butt this season. A genuinely nice guy too.
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| esoxaddict - 6/27/2015 2:06 PM
I've seen days on Eagle where color seemed to make all the difference as well. Or so we thought...
Could it be that this or that color double 10 has a certain vibration or sound that the other one did not? Could it be the PERSON throwing the lure and they way they work it compared to how you are working the color that isn't working today? Is it a matter of weight, how deep the lure is running, how fast or slow you are working the lure?
Not trying to debunk the fact that color matters. After a decade chasing these stupid green fish, I've found that there definitely ARE places where one color just plain works over others. But there are a LOT of variables involved in why a musky chose one lure over another to eat today. I think often times it's whatever lure that goes right over their head at any given moment, and not necessarily the right color.
This is probably the best post in the thread on this, as far as Eagle goes. I totally agree with your theory about one PERSON working the bait a certain way. And in fact, I have a Grandma lure that is a fish machine...for me. My buddy was struggling, and I tossed it to him after I caught two. He put it on for about 4 or 5 spots, and then took it off and tossed it back to me. He said, "I can tell when it comes in, it's just the not the same when I'm working it. You put it back on cause I'd rather SOMEONE catch fish and it's a waste on my line."
The one that KILLS me and I can't explain is the story above with the "root beer" Spanky Bait and the Black & Smoke Spanky Bait. BOTH of us have caught fish on each of the lures on the same trip in 2009! Here's the log right out of my Excel File:
8/23/09 - Chuck 44" (930AM Middle Root Beer), Chuck 43" (940AM Middle Root Beer), we swapped baits and then Dan/me 44" (1020AM Front Root Beer). No action on Black & Smoke for either of us.
8/24/09 - Dan 51" (850AM Middle Black & Smoke) Chuck had the root beer on up front = nothing. We lost 2 fish 48-51" on the Black & Smoke prior to the front coming in...those fish came up front with the Black & Smoke (one for each of us) as we just started alternating chances up front with the Black & Smoke
8/26/09 - Chuck 45" (745PM Front Black & Smoke) Chuck 47" (800PM Front Black & Smoke) Nary a sniff on the Root Beer.
8/27/09 - 830AM I fought and lost a 55lb class fish on Black & Smoke in the middle position. Don't believe me, ask Cal Ritchie (who was guiding) and Steve Herbeck who had seen the fish there with Pete Maina two days prior. Steve is the one who when we said "that fish there may have been 50lbs", he said "If its the same one I saw, it's about 55lb). Later that day Dan 48" (2PM middle Black & Smoke)
How the heck does that work? Both anglers caught fish on both baits during the week (and even the same day!). But at certain times...they wanted one color over the other. I've seen this time and time again on Eagle Lake. As someone said, Eagle Lake is a strange one...
If you guys figure it out...let me know!!! It drives me crazy (but that's part of the fun).
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| sworrall - 6/27/2015 9:11 PM
wall i - 6/27/2015 6:16 PM
Interesting that we attribute human characteristics of color detection to fish. Gotta love Walt Disney.
Start with the assumption that they are not particularly intelligent creatures...
just to clarify, Im referring to the fish here and not the guy decked out like a billboard..ooops sorry,thats primarily bass fisherman. Anyway, we can surmise they feed when they are hungry which, is quite frequently. Given the number of baits out there which have over the years caught fish and then multiply by the color offerings and the permutations become staggering. So to me color is not a critical factor.
What I wanna know is, where are they? This is the million $ ? For a given season and a certain set of environmental conditions, where the heck are they staking territory?
Give me that answer and I'll throw paisley at them. I would rather throw the "wrong" color in the right place than vice versa.
No anthropomorphism here, it's well known which fishes can see color well and which cannot. It's also well known what happens to painted colors in the water column. Don't want to know? I don't get that at all.
I'd back up a little and do some reading, and watch the bashing. I know some seriously accomplished bass anglers, and they ain't what you describe.
http://bass.outdoorsfirst.com/
Scott Martin kicked some butt this season. A genuinely nice guy too.
A little humor buddy....just a little humor.
Some get humor others interpret it differently. Many books have been written on the topic if you are so inclined.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Read more about what the structure within the fish's eye tells scientists. There's more, too, these three little cell structures.....
And then look at what color is actually there to see most of the time.
Contrast. Way back when, Jason Lucas had it right. So did Mark Sosin. When I told him I bought his book, he responded, 'Oh, so your are the guy who bought one'. That guy thinks allot.
Also, there's lots of assumption that one variable (like color) is the key on any one day, when it may be something else entirely. Run a hydrophone for a while, and record the 'hot' crankbait and the 'not hot' crankbait. It's interesting.
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| sworrall - 6/27/2015 9:36 PM
Read more about what the structure within the fish's eye tells scientists. There's more, too, these three little cell structures.....
And then look at what color is actually there to see most of the time.
Contrast.
Also, there's lots of assumption that one variable (like color) is the key on any one day, when it may be something else entirely. Run a hydrophone for a while, and record the 'hot' crankbait and the 'not hot' crankbait. It's interesting.
I agree with this. Lots of factors. Ever seen Kakagi on the satellite? Check the water color. It can look downright teal from the air, but when you're there it appears gin clear. Something weird going on there. Not sure why, but the white just doesn't work on sunny days...but clouds come in...hold on. I don't get it. But it's what we experienced from 2003-2009.
Believe me, I wish I had all the answers, but i don't and don't pretend to. What I CAN do is keep accurate records...and try to react when I'm on the water given past experience. Whatever the reasons they eat...keeping records is probably the best thing ANYONE can do. Second would be to experiment with color on any given day.
You fish with Herbeck too, so you know what he does. He's always mixing up colors and tossing whats working on Eagle that day up to clients in the front of his boat...
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| sworrall - 6/27/2015 9:36 PM
Also, there's lots of assumption that one variable (like color) is the key on any one day, when it may be something else entirely. Run a hydrophone for a while, and record the 'hot' crankbait and the 'not hot' crankbait. It's interesting.
On this specific point Steve, have you ever correlated what type of sounds work better on certain days? Also, as it relates to Dbl 10s (I toss Spankys most of the time), have you ever correlated more sound with the ones that "pull" harder, or the ones that seem to "feel" like they are "ticking" when they come in? I've been trying to put this together in my mind, and when i think I got it figured out...one musky does something stupid and throws a wrench on my conclusion. I spent a lot of time in the basement studying the baits that works better than others (measuring cup of the blade, inspecting clevises, distance between hook tie and clevis, etc). Good thing I don't have a wife...LOL!
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| I heard Steve give a talk on color at a Muskies, Inc meeting years ago.
I went out after and bought cans of black and white spray paint and re-painted everything I owed...well almost.
I you ever get a change to hear this talk - do so.
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| waterbody,dictates color after the action factor of the lure.thru the year just a simple scale color on baits can dictate getting bit or not.ls,clair is a test tube for coloration other then tanic water. theres more color changes thru season then imaginable.. if you can read water color you will catch fish. ask any guide,or diehard on st clair. |
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Location: US | I remember reading an article in musky hunter quite a while back about black lures being so effective due to their preference of feeding on young bullheads. |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | Steve has pretty much covered this topic - black seem's to always work, but there are times other colors work too. There is one color no one really throws, except for maybe me, and it always gets looks or bitten, its my go to search bait. HOT Fluorescent Pink, its visible throughout the water column and because of that its visible at significant distances in trout water lakes and even stain waters like Cedar Lake.
Describing colors verbally is confusing, especially if you're new to this sport. Here's what hot pink fluoroescent looks like. If you're a diver, this color is clearly visible to the human eye in 80ft of water. Normally I just watch the lure, if it disappears, I set the hooks....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence
Have fun!
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| I throw pink too, sees a lot of action, and people make fun of me. I drove from Chicago to the Musky Expo Milwaukee solely to get this Phantom Hardhead:
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I promptly replaced the gold/walleye tail with the Kalin's pink w/ silver glitter (which they now have stopped producing). I bought the last two Kalin's 2-packs I could find...
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Location: Ludington, MI | Wet colors work better than dry ones. 10 out of 10 dentists agree. |
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