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| For two years now Ive tried to snag a 10 inch plastic suick at a swap meet,,,I go to alot of the shows and muskie club swapmeets probably a dozen since 2014 and have never seen a one!!!!
They must work great and pull true you guys aint getting rid of em!!! Guess I 'll have to buy a retailer at the Thorne bros annual sale.
Your reviews??????? |
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Location: Wisconsin | I like them a lot. They run well and hold up much better than the wood ones. I got rid of my wood ones and upgraded to the HI. Buy a few and you will like them. |
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Location: Minnesota. | Like Jeremy above says, they work great. I know the 9"ers do, just check Suicks F.B. front page. (Please excuse the obvious braggardly post)
Pity I didn't think to include a shot of the H.I. Suick (Wild Sucker) in that pic. of my PB 54 last July 15th. I was pretty pumped...
Buy one - or some! I have a whole box full of Suicks now. I don't have enough time left to wear them all out but - I'll sure try.
Another Jeremy. |
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| ^ nice fish Jeremy. was that a "selfie " pic? |
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Location: Minnesota. | Nope, my son was fishing with me. He's pretty the intense/worrying type. When he netted her he let out this big sigh and said "Man, she's in!" and wanted to go back to the cabin.
I said "Noooo..still got an hour or so of daylight. Keep pitching." Two mins later he says "Dad, ummm, ya know -- I got so excited I forgot all about squeezing the tail!" We joshed a good bit (the dad thing) and he says "If you keep giving me crap I'm telling everyone back on the dock that she was a 52!!"
Good kid. I told him just this week it's his turn this year.
Thanks.
Jeremy. |
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Location: WI | After getting my PB on a 10" HI last summer, I got a couple more this year. Rapidly becoming my favorite lure. |
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| The two I have fish well, more like the weighted wooden ones. Catch fish very well. But my one complaint is that the finish on the two I have started flaking off after not much use. |
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Posts: 392
| I like both plastic and weighted wood suicks. Both have their advantages. My old beat up wood suicks work great for deeper slow retrieves letting it it hang. The plastic suicks work great for faster erratic retrives. They also seem to run truer and more consistent than wood. |
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Location: MN | I'm not trying to be a smart alec, but can you tell me how they can run more true and consistent, and yet be erratic at the same time? I've had mostly wood, and despite trying the adjustments that are usually recommended, I get maybe one out of 3 or 4 that will do what I want it to |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It's called 'tuning'. No problem at all making the HI series dance. None.
If you are 1 out of 3 or 4 with the wood models, you really seriously need to learn how to tune a Suick. I have never yet met one I can't make dance, and I've been at this for awhile. |
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| Propster,
I'm with you. Except your numbers might even be a little better than mine. And I've been at this awhile too.
LN |
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Location: Waukee, IA | I have 0 problems with the wood suicks. Some run one way or the other out of the package, but that's easily fixed by adjusting the tail or eye screw. I actually like the misbehaving ones because they tend to have more side to side walking than the "perfect" ones that dive and rise in a straight line. |
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Location: Minnesota. | tkuntz - 4/26/2015 6:16 PM
I actually like the misbehaving ones because they tend to have more side to side walking than the "perfect" ones that dive and rise in a straight line.
Me too, they look erratic (erotic??) in the water. Not much trouble and I'm new-ish to them, mainly last year.
Last year some fellow at our dock had issues with a few of his not behaving as he wanted. He had the ends of both fins bent down like "tabs" and I suggested he hammer them flat and adjust with a slight bend this way or that. Sometimes a slight "twist" even, whatever it takes. An' I ain't too handy...!!
Fixed his though. Maybe I'm just lucky. *G*
Jeremy. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | LN,
Please send all the Suicks you can't make run to me. I will adjust them in a few moments on video above and below the water and post it.
Most of the time the folks I run in to who claim they can't get Suicks to run are either overworking them or underworking them.
Use the reel as much as the rod.
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Posts: 392
| I have had no trouble getting wood or plastic suicks to run the way I want. I find the plastic need less tuning and getting suicks to perform is on the user and using their reel. |
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| I picked up the HI suick last year, first D&R I ever really seriously fished. That thing dances like a champ. I just bent the tail at a slight angle and that was all that was needed. I know tradition is a big part of this sport, but that bait works great. |
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| sworrall - 4/26/2015 10:21 PM
LN,
Please send all the Suicks you can't make run to me. I will adjust them in a few moments on video above and below the water and post it.
Most of the time the folks I run in to who claim they can't get Suicks to run are either overworking them or underworking them.
Use the reel as much as the rod.
Steve, here's a story. I watched your video on this site. I tuned a new Suick last year like your video shows. No joke, within 5 mins I had a fish come up and slap it over a weed bed. So obviously, the video works...and the fish like it. Like you say in the video about guys who just pull (like i had done for 15+ years), "That's not wrong, and you'll catch fish...". However, the way your video shows it is just money. But here's my question...
...later in the trip I was casting against some wind with the same Suick. I got a backlash, and the bait stopped dead mid-air. The Suick wouldn't work anymore, and upon inspection it turned out the screw eye had come "loose". I used some Gorilla glue to "tighten" the screw eye back in. Now, no matter what i do (fool with tail, bend the screw eye, etc)...I cannot get this Suick to run like it did previously. Any suggestions? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Start with the tail absolutely straight. Bend just one corner down, about 1/8 of an inch, add a bit of a downward bend for the entire tail. Make sure the screw eye is straight to begin this. Make sure all the hook hangers are not bent up. Make sure you are using the same leader you were using, a heavier or lighter one might cause you to re-tune.
Tune from there; hope this helps! |
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| Over the years, I have a few wood ones that don't run exactly how I want, but they still look good. I have one plastic one, that I cannot get right. I've watched the videos, etc, and tried for over an hour to get it to run, but no luck. I'm sure its operator error. I have other plastic ones that run great. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | What kind of a leader are you guys using with it? |
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Posts: 392
| 10 in solid wire no swivel or snap. |
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Location: Minnesota. | dami0101 - 4/27/2015 1:39 PM
What kind of a leader are you guys using with it?
These guys from Thorne's...
Stealth Tackle 2-Pack 180# Test 14" Fluorocarbon Leaders
Also home-made 14-15" supple wire twisted/melted together with (big _ss) AHL snaps and BB swivels. Nothing special. |
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| I've used a 130# Flouro with a snap. I guess if I really wanted to take the leader out of the equation I could use my homemade flouro glider leader which only has a welded ring, but that really hasn't been necessary. |
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| Do any of you use a split ring on the wooden suicks?? |
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Location: Minnesota. | jim lock - 5/8/2015 4:08 PM
Do any of you use a split ring on the wooden suicks??
Not me. |
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Posts: 156
| Iv'e tried split rings and it ruined the action. I can't make sense of it, but that's what happened. |
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Posts: 348
| Gotta have the right split ring that moves around in the eyelet if it's to tight it will kill the action. I can get all my suick to fish like a glider under the water big turns each way |
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Location: Elroy, Wisconsin | Pretty hard to get a Suick to run wrong with the right size split ring in the nose. Got to visit with old Frank once, great experience. First thirty or so muskies I caught were on wood Suicks weighted with .22 bullets. Couple of Suicks and couple good bucktails and your all set.
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Location: Land of the Musky | I have over 30 wood Suicks and love all of them. I can tune anyone I want to do what I want. I do have a few of the new plastic Suicks and those are more consistent for my tuning.... They are also tougher IMO. Love both. One of my favorite lures is a weighted 9" Suick!!! Deadly for pike in Canada. |
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| Wood or Plastic...both great baits! Plastic/Molded is nice, but sometimes it's the Wood that makes it Good! |
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Location: New Jersey | Steve, can you send a link to the video Mr. Musky is talking about? |
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| go the video section of the site and its in the "spring bay dockside" outing videos. |
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Location: NeverNever Lake | I have had way more success in bending/turning the tie eye screw than with the tail bending techniques. I think the main goal is to establish symmetry with the bait. I have tried bending one side of the tail different ways and couldn't do anything but make it worse. I can't wrap my mind around the idea of how making the bait non-symmetrical allows it to move in both directions evenly, or at least walk-the-dog. I have about a dozen of the original round-belly, red box Suicks that I custom painted and epoxied, some of them I weighted, and they all have different personalities. My favorites are the 10"(wood) that I repainted and epoxied. They have a great shimmy, dive and rise, all while doggin'. I have a couple of old 7"ers that are more flat like a popsickle stick, that dart and dive like there's no tomorrow. Suicks are great lures and should be part of every serious muskie anglers arsenal.....
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Location: Minnesota. | RAZE1 - 5/17/2015 12:00 PM
Suicks are great lures and should be part of every serious muskie anglers arsenal.....
Yep. It only took me over 30 yrs. of fishing to actually realize this.
Actually I was more spooked by the back-lashing stuff so I stayed away from them The HI's solved that. Same with the 10" ers...and weighted.
I had to buy a separate tackle box...........*eyes roll* |
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