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| His ridiculously inadequate setup with a bass reel and undoubtedly his usual 20# test line. And he's feeling like a failure after two days?! Dude, sturdy up!! |
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Location: MN | Once you realize what it is he does and just accept it for what it is then you're able to sit back and chuckle. Don said they tried to get him to say some over-the-top stuff and he just couldn't. Jeremy does it with a straight face! |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | sacrificial tobacco! the secret is out! |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | what a buncha crappola!! i'd kick him out if he were representing out of my lodge ... |
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Location: New Hope MN | So all this time I've been pouring beer in the water to gain the favor of the musky gods... I've been doing it wrong. They like Tobacco? |
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Location: MN | You know what they say - "I don't care what they say about me as long as they're talking about me." |
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Location: Wakefield, MI | dtaijo174 - 4/5/2015 9:04 PM
So all this time I've been pouring beer in the water to gain the favor of the musky gods... I've been doing it wrong. They like Tobacco?
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Location: MN | jjm msky - 4/5/2015 9:04 PM
Amen! Interesting that there is NOTHING indicating the lodge.
That's because they paid for everything, no freebies. He's booked for a whole month with Don this year. He must have gotten hooked on the challenge, don't know what other drama he can come up with  |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | I enjoyed the scuba diving off of Skye's reef.....
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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | Watching the eepisode now. Laughing a little bit. It is kinda funny. Always thought this episode was going to be on at some point. don't really like the early spin on em tho. Saying aggressive and overplaying some of the "attacks" idk. That bugged me, otherwise, I feel entertained. So that's good
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Location: The desert | That show has been lame for years now. |
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Location: Lake St.Clair | Thankfully he made the secret soul Indian happy with some bugler blue bag lol. |
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Location: S.W. WI | That was awful. Lame.
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Location: Lincoln, NE | I loved it. I laughed my ass off the whole time as the badass fisherman who travels the world and catches all kinds of monsters in exotic locations got defeated musky fishing. It absolutely broke him. On the after show the lady asked if he was about to give up and he said he already did. He was jigging for a baitfish cause he gave up on believing in himself as an angler. All my friends who have no clue about serious fishing who see Jeremy Wade on TV and think he's the ultimate fisherman now got a little glimpse into the musky world and how challenging it can be. Everyone who hears me talk about it and probably thinks "maybe its a little hard but can't be that bad" now just saw the River Monster guy who catches everything, not catch a musky for a whole week until it was a fluke. The show is cheesy and has added drama but you can tell he's a genuinely good person and lives and breathes fishing and that at the end of it he's now got great respect for the musky and is now pretty much hooked on the challenge. He said he only had 3 days then next thing you know he's on day 8. Yeah he canceled whatever plans he had cause he got addicted just like we all are and just had to catch one. |
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| is there somewhere to stream the show online? i was unable to find it. |
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Location: Liberty, IN (OKI Tri-State) | A lot of valid critique... but bottom line... Jeremy introduced hundreds of thousands folks outside of our relatively small community to the mystery, mystique and legendary lore of the "Monarch of Freshwater"... who likely NEVER knew just HOW amazingly challenging is our quest nor imagined the warriors heart beating in Masquinonge Esox.
I'm thinking this was VERY GOOD for our sport and gave civilians a desirable glimpse into our passionate pursuit. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | ^ other than that they are a danger and a menace to otherwise well wishing swimmers and canoeists ... |
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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | jonnysled - 4/6/2015 9:55 AM
^ other than that they are a danger and a menace to otherwise well wishing swimmers and canoeists ...
Yeah, this is what bugged me about the episode. That said though, it wouldn't be "River Monsters" without at least 1 human attack. He would not have done the episode without that. As soon as they said a kid was "attacked" in shallow water I knew they were talking about muskie. But still bugged me how they put it out there as an over aggressive, fearless killer that attacks people. Cause we all know thats just not how it is.
Like I said, other then that. I personally loved the episode
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| rodbender - 4/6/2015 11:18 AM I bet he caught several musky during filming but played the 10k cast mystique ...had to add drama. The spirit on the rock and landing a 48 on small gear was all climatic staging. He probably got that on the first day. WHA...? Would a fisherman LIE? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i wonder how he arranged to add the bush theme fully restored Toyota Land Cruiser with no dents and no rust? ... you know that vehicle doesn't exist in Vermillion Bay or Dryden ... |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Travis A. - 4/6/2015 9:08 AM
He said he only had 3 days then next thing you know he's on day 8. Yeah he canceled whatever plans he had cause he got addicted just like we all are and just had to catch one.
that's not really what happened there...He had 3 days to fish the Wabigoon/Clay River ....not 3 days for the entire trip.
Kinda funny how he came into town and must have demanded someone get him on a river to match the show name. That was a 3 day waste of time and he could have been on much better water then that in those parts.... |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | trying to sell eagle lake early as some labyrinth of water with no "open areas" ... yah |
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Location: Smith Creek | The most realistic and non-commercialized muskie show I've ever seen. |
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Location: Bloomington, MN | Brian, are you sure the river scene was in Canada. The Toyota had Wisconsin plates, and he stated he was on reservation land which it appeared to be the Bad River area near Ashland. The after premiere segment had him playing/chasing Sofie the happy resort dog in front of the Nielsen's Resort painted rock. I got to give him credit for doing a good job throwing a big fly and his acting ability of keeping a straight face. Mr. Pursch has got to have some good stories from the time he spent with him. |
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| Flambeauski - 4/6/2015 12:39 PM
The most realistic and non-commercialized muskie show I've ever seen.
Ha. Nailed it. |
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| I'm not an "everything happens for a reason" kind of guy, but oddly just clicked this show to start recording the series again 3 days ago, with no knowledge of this episode coming. I used to watch it years ago, well, at least the last 10 minutes of each show.
Can't wait to watch this, especially after reading this thread and having fished those waters! |
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Location: MN | Non-commercial - yes, great. Realistic - in the sense of how difficult it can be to catch one, yes. Realistic in terms of "horror", or two following 50" muskies might be the ancient eel-like monster? Give me a break |
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Location: Bloomington, MN | I'm correct for once!
http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/forums/general-discussion/357542-...
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Location X? Why not just name it? Not like the general public can fish there (or would want to).
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Location: Waconia,MN | I enjoyed it, he also showed us what happens when you pick up a fish with the hook still in its mouth. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Clark A - 4/6/2015 11:58 AM
Brian, are you sure the river scene was in Canada. The Toyota had Wisconsin plates, and he stated he was on reservation land which it appeared to be the Bad River area near Ashland. The after premiere segment had him playing/chasing Sofie the happy resort dog in front of the Nielsen's Resort painted rock. I got to give him credit for doing a good job throwing a big fly and his acting ability of keeping a straight face. Mr. Pursch has got to have some good stories from the time he spent with him.
That was definitely Canada and that was either the Wabiigoon River or another that connects to it....the license plate Ws probably just from a lodge owner who was his guide.
If you ever go on the Red Lake Highway there's a bridge that goes over it north of Eagle Lake |
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| Ronix - 4/6/2015 12:32 PM
Flambeauski - 4/6/2015 12:39 PM
The most realistic and non-commercialized muskie show I've ever seen.
Ha. Nailed it.
Absolutely. No ads, no shout-out to the lure company when he lands it. Guy fishing all day and not catching anything but hammerhandle northerns. By far the most realistic muskie fishing show I have ever seen. |
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| rodbender - 4/6/2015 10:18 AM
I bet he caught several musky during filming but played the 10k cast mystique ...had to add drama. The spirit on the rock and landing a 48 on small gear was all climatic staging. He probably got that on the first day.
Actually, that was legit. It was a 50 actually. Jeremy had basically given up and wanted to catch a fish (to get some semblance of sanity back - he actually mentioned this on the 10 minute "after show"), and had just done the tobacco offering. No joke...they dropped the minnow and a big Musky grabbed it, but they didn't know at first it was a big musky... |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | MstrMusky - 4/6/2015 6:43 PM
rodbender - 4/6/2015 10:18 AM
I bet he caught several musky during filming but played the 10k cast mystique ...had to add drama. The spirit on the rock and landing a 48 on small gear was all climatic staging. He probably got that on the first day.
Actually, that was legit. It was a 50 actually. Jeremy had basically given up and wanted to catch a fish (to get some semblance of sanity back - he actually mentioned this on the 10 minute "after show" ), and had just done the tobacco offering. No joke...they dropped the minnow and a big Musky grabbed it, but they didn't know at first it was a big musky...
based on merit though, which fibs are you supposed to believe? |
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| rodbender - 4/6/2015 10:18 AM
I bet he caught several musky during filming but played the 10k cast mystique ...had to add drama. The spirit on the rock and landing a 48 on small gear was all climatic staging. He probably got that on the first day.
Believe it or not, Gord, who was on the show and owns a lodge on Eagle, said that was really what happened. He said that was the only fish that was caught the whole time. He said Jeremy caught it on the jig and minnow too. As crazy as it seems, it was apparently the real deal. |
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Location: North St. Paul, MN | I liked it. Showed what it's actually like. Sure, it was hoakie at times, but fun to watch musky fishing without "shimano this, double cowgirl that, st Croix, musky innovations, phantom, llungen, Lund, ranger, skeeter, Yamaha, amsoil...phew, I'm out of breath!
(I know, I know, those shows aren't on without the sponsors. Just saying it was fun to watch without all the pimpin'.) |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i did note they were all fishing boats and not mortgages running from spot to spot ... thumbs up on that ...
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Do you think someone should have told him to just go to LSC and get it out of the way in 20 minutes instead of 8 days? |
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Location: Bloomington, MN | Someone stated that he is booked at Rowan for a month this year. If he is even booked for a week, he has then developed "Muskie Fever"! If that is the case, he might be dabbling on this web site! This man finally went fishing somewhere where he wasn't in fear for his life, had to eat grubs, crap in a bucket, or be the locals next dinner.. He probably enjoyed the torment the elusive muskellunge imposed on his peace, just like the rest of us. This man yanked Zander after Zander out of the cooling pond of Chernobyl while wearing a radiation detector beeping and chirping more than a Devo tune with the hopes of catching a deformed Wells Catfish. I now know it is a fine line between hating and throughly enjoying these reality shows. When Jeremy got impaled with the spinnerbait, he probably couldn't believe on how fast Don Pursch moved in the comfy Ranger to get that bait out of his arm. I sure Yamananclakclak,his previous guide in Guyana, didn't have a pair of Knipex side cutters. Mr. Wade welcome to the comforts and mental/physical discomforts of muskie fishing.
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Location: MN | Musky Brian - 4/6/2015 7:31 PM
Do you think someone should have told him to just go to LSC and get it out of the way in 20 minutes instead of 8 days?
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Location: Minocqua, WI | Clark A - 4/6/2015 11:58 AM
Brian, are you sure the river scene was in Canada. The Toyota had Wisconsin plates, and he stated he was on reservation land which it appeared to be the Bad River area near Ashland. The after premiere segment had him playing/chasing Sofie the happy resort dog in front of the Nielsen's Resort painted rock. I got to give him credit for doing a good job throwing a big fly and his acting ability of keeping a straight face. Mr. Pursch has got to have some good stories from the time he spent with him.
The Land Cruiser in show was fly guide Brad Bohen's. A fly fisherman friend of mine gave away the secret that this program first made an unpublicized visit to the Hayward Area (I was told Chippewa but could have been Bad as the water was sure reddish). They then carried onward to Ontario.
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| jonnysled - 4/6/2015 7:03 PM
MstrMusky - 4/6/2015 6:43 PM
rodbender - 4/6/2015 10:18 AM
I bet he caught several musky during filming but played the 10k cast mystique ...had to add drama. The spirit on the rock and landing a 48 on small gear was all climatic staging. He probably got that on the first day.
Actually, that was legit. It was a 50 actually. Jeremy had basically given up and wanted to catch a fish (to get some semblance of sanity back - he actually mentioned this on the 10 minute "after show" ), and had just done the tobacco offering. No joke...they dropped the minnow and a big Musky grabbed it, but they didn't know at first it was a big musky...
based on merit though, which fibs are you supposed to believe?
The people I personally know WHO WERE THERE don't BS. I understand "doubt" is a part of the musky "community", regretfully necessary because of those who embellished in the distant past. Believe what you want, doesn't make much difference to me.
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| I was fishing out of Sennett's boat this last year in early August up on the Chip and he was talking about how River Monsters had contacted him to film a show up there. Ty said they kept rescheduling and they were supposed to be up there sometime in late August or early September. Not sure what all happened with them going to Hayward, if they stopped there at all to film, but Canada makes a little more sense to try and film a show in. |
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A tired , run it's course, good to fall asleep to show. Good to record and watch after wicked tuna on a Sunday night before the workweek kind of show at a time of year when there's not much to do. |
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| rodbender - 4/6/2015 10:06 PM
It's a tv show. It is what it is.
A tired , run it's course, good to fall asleep to show. Good to record and watch after wicked tuna on a Sunday night before the workweek kind of show at a time of year when there's not much to do.
Oh yeah, there was plenty of BS in the show, don't get me wrong. But that part you mentioned was actually legit, the way that fish was caught (fishing walleye) and when (late in the trip, last day I think but don't quote me on that). I can't speak to whether the show embellished with the First Nation "visits" afterward. But tobacco was put on the rock, and then what you saw happened...a 50" on a walleye rig fishing walleye.
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Location: Aurora | jonnysled - 4/6/2015 9:55 AM
other than that they are a danger and a menace to otherwise well wishing swimmers and canoeists ...
"Don't kid yerself Johnny, if a muskie ever got the chance it'd eat you and everyone you cared about."
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Location: minocqua, wi. | don't think i'm implying doubt to anyone there ... the doubt is based on the embelleshed b.s. that the show builds. what in the show can you believe? it was riddled with nonsense so which nonsense is true and which isn't ... that was the point.
watch the show with a play by play and drink every time he flat out lies, stretches the truth or embellished something and tell me you can still say your name. of course the drink should be a crown and coke ... |
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Location: MN | ^^^ that's funny. You'd be tipsy halfway thru |
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Location: Minocqua, WI | I played Jon's drinking game. Worse.
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Location: north central wisconsin | Okay, that sounds like fun. After it's all said and done, I'll stumble to bed wondering if those Goonch really eat as many people as Jeremy contends. Then, I'll ask myself why I put Coke in my Crown. |
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn | jonnysled - 4/6/2015 11:10 PM
don't think i'm implying doubt to anyone there ... the doubt is based on the embelleshed b.s. that the show builds. what in the show can you believe? it was riddled with nonsense so which nonsense is true and which isn't ... that was the point.
watch the show with a play by play and drink every time he flat out lies, stretches the truth or embellished something and tell me you can still say your name. of course the drink should be a crown and coke ... why would you wreck crown with coke? |
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Location: oswego, il | Now I have to go and watch this show. Having been told by someone that he seen a musky grab a swimming deer by the head, why wouldn't one of these river monsters take down a canoe? #*#* I have a kayak. Could I be sitting in a death trap?
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Location: Illinois | Saw the episode last night, could not believe he kept that fish on when it broke water! I wonder how long it really took him to land it considering "he said" he was using 6lb test? I thought for sure he was going to come up empty handed by the end. I did think it was kind of cool when he described himself as being physically exhausted, but his mind still thinking about the possibility of a big musky coming out of nowhere to crush his bait. I personally have felt that way, and unlike other shows where it's one musky after another, the reality of going to Canada for an extended period of time and coming home with crippled hands and a sore shoulder was evident. I could have done without the rest of the show, but entertaining nonetheless. |
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Location: Minnesota | ToddM - 4/7/2015 7:09 AM
Now I have to go and watch this show. Having been told by someone that he seen a musky grab a swimming deer by the head, why wouldn't one of these river monsters take down a canoe? #*#* I have a kayak. Could I be sitting in a death trap?
Giant suckers? Pffft. Does Thorne Bros make a rod that will cast a live deer? |
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Location: Smith Creek | lhprop1 - 4/7/2015 3:21 PM
ToddM - 4/7/2015 7:09 AM
Now I have to go and watch this show. Having been told by someone that he seen a musky grab a swimming deer by the head, why wouldn't one of these river monsters take down a canoe? #*#* I have a kayak. Could I be sitting in a death trap?
Giant suckers? Pffft. Does Thorne Bros make a rod that will cast a live deer?
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| I was actually contacted by the show last summer as they wanted to discuss injuries that occur during muskie fishing. They found an old post by me when I got handcuffed to a 52. I sent the email to Doug Johnson. Actually spoke with one of the producers, but nothing came out it. Which was good I guess....I really didn't want to reinact that scene. LOL
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Location: Leech Lake, Walker MN | I'm just sayin that it was a very crazy time with these folks |
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Location: oswego, il | Going to grow a pair and just quick strike rig myself next fall! |
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| With the evolution of large lures I honestly think they have seen white tail bucks buzzing over their heads all day. I'm kinda a big fish guy so I was wondering what reel I should buy to rig a bull moose?
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Location: Chicago | Good grief?! I spent all this money on lures and all ya need is a jig and minnow!?
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | 5 days fishing around the clock without a single sighting of the great beast on Rowan Lake? Really? |
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Location: Leech Lake, Walker MN | Just sayin none of you know the details of any thing that happened don't be so quick to judge this guy he's a very interesting guy and he is a story teller and very good at it. They never intended for this to be a Traditional fishing show I just sayin I was there and maybe some day I will tell the real story just sayin Always Calm Waters To You All |
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Location: Illinois | Seems like an alright guy, and he's done about everything and anything to catch a fish. How long before he arrived did they contact you Don? Was Rowan a planned stop from the beginning for them? |
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Location: Leech Lake, Walker MN | YA know I was NOT going to do this but here goes
First of all he had NEVER fished Muskies be for he had no clue as to what was involved
Improper Rod and reel he had to use specific equipment
Had NO boat side what's so ever
We had 43 fish to the boat in that time a true shot at a 50+ every day we were out
That's a fact and caught (2)
Why they did not use ANY of that stuff I do not know there was so many great things that happend and where not shown I just don't know and I had no clue what the out come was going to be. I'm not defending any one nor justifying any actions here I'm just sharing some of the things that REALLY did happend. This is some of what REALLY happened. Thanks for reading Don |
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| I thought it was a good show. Yes there was a lot of B.S. but thats what keeps the masses watching it. It was reality as far as the frustration. It was good to not deal with any advertising or top of the line equipment. I think Jeremy does a good job on the show with all episodes. It's neat to see all of the cool fish around the world. If he were advertising on every show who would want that? If he just threw a line in different waters around the world and didnt say a word that would be some crappy tv. He always has what looks to be the most simple and basic stuff. I think thats cool. If you dont like the show dont watch it. Like I do with bass fishing shows. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i don't buy the "realistic" part either. if you are with a guide on Eagle and what i hear of Rowan ... nope, punt and try again. that statement just doesn't hold water. tough days yah but 8 days ... nope. if you are a novice or newbie - yah, any time at all in it would be a rare occasion to not have multiple shots, with a guide - no way at least not the ones i know up there.
i was with Scottie about 8 years ago when we saw the serpent of Eagle Lake ... caught both a them sumb!tches ... a 48 and a 49 came out nose to tail. looked like two muskies to us.
people that see it as an impossible fish will believe this guy and his show, to say they won't is naive. did that show promote a musky trip to a novice? those customers are probably good ones and spend more money than a lot of us do.
i guess they could always bring plenty of tobacco ...
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| After reading this thread, I had to DVR that episode. Got to watch it last night.
Really, really did not like the first 25 minutes or so. But that is his show. Once he got to the musky fishing, even my wife was amazed at how little he knew. Little things, like how he held a rod. How he tried to figure 8. Don backed up what we saw. Jeremy may be an accomplished fisherman, but he is a novice musky angler.
And we both got a good chuckle when musky fishing broke him. Said that he was "twitchy". That was the highlight to me.
Then seeing him catch that 48 incher? Getting that film of the fish jumping? Awesome stuff. He was very jacked to see that fish. You could see that he got himself hooked (literally and figuratively) on musky fishing.
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Location: Hudson,WI | I love the fact that he got his A** handed to him by the Muskie. It was a good episode, and it made me laugh because you get to witness the various stages he goes through until he finally raises the white flag in surrender. |
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| Most of the time he is bait fishing, hook up a big piece of meat and throw it out and wait. This time he was working for it, casting and not really throwing the big stuff either. I have watched this show from the first season to this one and will continue to do so. I have always wondered what would happen if he tried some of the musky lures we all throw in some of the locations he fishes in and see what would happen. But after watching this show I don't think he wants to spend all day casting in 100% humidity in a jungle. I hope he gets another shot at one, because it looks like he is hooked on musky fishing.
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| Wow 43 fish to the boat? |
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| I thought I was the only one that had musky's swimming to the boat to give me the "the fin" and swim off
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Location: varies | DonPursch - 4/7/2015 8:26 PM
YA know I was NOT going to do this but here goes
First of all he had NEVER fished Muskies be for he had no clue as to what was involved
Improper Rod and reel he had to use specific equipment
Had NO boat side what's so ever
We had 43 fish to the boat in that time a true shot at a 50+ every day we were out
That's a fact and caught (2)
Why they did not use ANY of that stuff I do not know there was so many great things that happend and where not shown I just don't know and I had no clue what the out come was going to be. I'm not defending any one nor justifying any actions here I'm just sharing some of the things that REALLY did happend. This is some of what REALLY happened. Thanks for reading Don
They had to play on the 10,000 cast thing. Makes for better drama. Let's face it. The story line was weak. Some silly sea monster legend that few know of and a kid getting nipped in the leg Is what they had to fill an hour of air time with. Also, why would you fish eagle, head to rowan, get a couple follows ( as seen in the show), only to get discouraged, then feel the need to head back to eagle to rub up on a rock and fish for cigars? I'm not suprised he caught a dandy with a jig and minnow, happens daily across the Musky range. They have to make up and sensationalize it to sell tickets I suppose but good Lord!
I knew that they had to have seen/caught more than the bs story lead us to believe. |
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Location: Minnesota | ARmuskyaddict - 4/7/2015 10:35 PM
And how come there is no episode about how bream and bluegills are viscous man biters? My nipples have been attacked by those buggers many times while swimming.
Get your nipples pierced and put a baited treble hook in each one. You'll have your limit of sunnies in no time.
Would that be considered fishing with two lines or would it be the equivalent of having multiple hooks on a Rapala? |
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| Agree with rodbender. Seems to me like he had a hankering to try muskie fishing, and pumped up the man-eating monster "legend" to allow him to get the show to pay for it. As DonPursch has it, they saw plenty of fish and had plenty of chances, yet they played up the "fish of 10,000 casts" angle bigtime. Still, I prefer that to them making it look like muskie fishing is like bass fishing. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | DonPursch - 4/7/2015 8:26 PM
YA know I was NOT going to do this but here goes
First of all he had NEVER fished Muskies be for he had no clue as to what was involved
Improper Rod and reel he had to use specific equipment
Had NO boat side what's so ever
We had 43 fish to the boat in that time a true shot at a 50+ every day we were out
That's a fact and caught (2)
Why they did not use ANY of that stuff I do not know there was so many great things that happend and where not shown I just don't know and I had no clue what the out come was going to be. I'm not defending any one nor justifying any actions here I'm just sharing some of the things that REALLY did happend. This is some of what REALLY happened. Thanks for reading Don
If anyone has watched ALL of his shows in the past, this makes sense....the general formula is he spends the whole time searching for the one fish.....catches a few other species beforehand, and MAYBE gets 1 very small sample size of said targeted species....showing him catch 3 45-"52" ( just estimating what they were)muskies, as an example, wouldn't fit the formula for his show which is a long search and catching the one fish at the end before the credits roll. Having that lone fish be caught on a spinning rod after dropping some Redman on the rock is a lot more drama for the average TV dope then watching him fight a musky for .20 seconds on standard broomstick rods.... |
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| Wow, just watched the show... all I can say is really?? He spends some "brutal" time on Eagle and Rowan, and then after being beat down, decides to go drop some tobacco and a minnow on Spirit Rock, and lands a 50"??
BS. He caught that fish on the first day he visited Spirit Rock by accident, like so many other walleye fisherman have done. Then used his movie-making craftsmanship to add drama.
And in the process, at least in my opinion, shamefully took advantage of Don Pursch and Rowan Lake. I've never been there (it's on my list to visit), but based on my years fishing the shield lakes, the odds are slim to none that even the worst angler could spend a week with a reputable lodge owner guiding on a reputable lake, and not see a fish for 5 days!
Sorry for what they did, Don. I think any musky angler, of any experience, knows his story was total BS.
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Location: MN | You may not have read Dons post. They had 43 fish up that week. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Does anyone here actually think that show was aired for Muskie anglers?
It's 'reality' TV for people who think they might like to fish.
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| Booch - 4/8/2015 11:26 PM
Wow, just watched the show... all I can say is really?? He spends some "brutal" time on Eagle and Rowan, and then after being beat down, decides to go drop some tobacco and a minnow on Spirit Rock, and lands a 50"??
BS. He caught that fish on the first day he visited Spirit Rock by accident, like so many other walleye fisherman have done. Then used his movie-making craftsmanship to add drama.
And in the process, at least in my opinion, shamefully took advantage of Don Pursch and Rowan Lake. I've never been there (it's on my list to visit), but based on my years fishing the shield lakes, the odds are slim to none that even the worst angler could spend a week with a reputable lodge owner guiding on a reputable lake, and not see a fish for 5 days!
Sorry for what they did, Don. I think any musky angler, of any experience, knows his story was total BS.
Don spoke pretty highly of Jeremy as well as the experience. Sounds like you're taking the episode a biiiiit too personally... |
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Location: oswego, il | Who said internet was over....... |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I liked the show ok. We have the remember, it's TV!!!!! Think about all the reality TV people watch now. I bet if anybody knew the behind the scenes BS going on during one of those shows it would be hard to believe, or maybe not but it would be pretty far from reality I am sure.
They followed the same theme as always for the show. They find a myth or legend of some sort. Then they investigate, and THEN, Jeremy comes up with a fairly logical answer to explain the myth or legend. In this case, it was that some people might be seeing muskies and using them to create the legend of some giant monster. Some of it was amped up, yeah. They do that to make a show out of it. They have to, to reach the majority of the target audience. It's not a saturday morning fishing show, it's a show to entertain people.
I have to say it was a little funny to hear some of the things they said, and how the musky was described, but again, it's a TV show that knows what they have to do to get ratings. When "real" fishing shows always seem to end with the biggest fish, do you think they really caught the biggest fish at the end of filming? When the hunting shows always tag out 30 minutes before they have to get on a plane to go somewhere else, do you think it really happened that way?
Overall it was good. I was hoping to see more musky action, but looking back that probably would not have fit the general format of the show.
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| Ronix - 4/9/2015 6:07 AM
Don spoke pretty highly of Jeremy as well as the experience. Sounds like you're taking the episode a biiiiit too personally...
Thanks for the assessment.
It's not a fishing show, I know that. It's entertainment. I just think it's a little crappy that they dropped names in a fictional portrayal, since these lodges depend on publicity for their livelihood.
I'm guessing Don wasn't too happy to see the 43 follows excluded, so the show could climax with the minnow'd musky. But, maybe I'm wrong.
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| Think about your average week of musky fishing. Even if you filmed all day for the entire week and condensed that into an hour of footage, would it be entertaining enough to watch? Maybe for us musky morons it would be, but would the average viewer leave it on for more than 15 minutes? More importantly, would that combined footage make anyone who has never fished for muskies before want to drive 800 miles to Canada and spent a week at some lodge somewhere?
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Location: Already Gone | ToddM - 4/9/2015 6:56 AM
Who said internet was over.......
Big sigh...."reality" TV..? Wow. |
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Location: oswego, il | Should have read winternet, dam auto correct! |
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| It's season number 7 for River Monsters. Obviously a very successful T.V. show. I would love to have Jeremy's Wade's job. Kdawg |
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Location: Ontario | Not sure if it was posted before, but here is the whole thing (as it was produced )
https://youtu.be/34SZM--CjYY
Edited by lifeisfun 4/10/2015 2:59 PM
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Location: MN | I thought the show was by far the best introduction to muskie fishing I've seen on TV. A colleague of mine actually told me about it at work, and I looked it up online and watched it. What struck me about it is that he (and presumably other viewers) took away a lot of the key points - it described how the pursuit quickly turns into an obsession, the beauty and remoteness of NW Ontario, catching plenty of pike but no muskies(!), follows but not bites (good footage too), and just how mentally challenging it can be at times. He noted how Jeremy handled the fish after catching it and how his spirits turned around - I can definitely empathize with that. Overall I thought the latter part of the show was a great portrayal of muskie fishing.
The first half of the show doesn't really have anything to do with muskie fishing. It's an investigation of a myth that ultimately leads to muskies. |
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| I have a good feeling we'll see a revisit episode from Mr. Wade in the near future. No way a guy with his level of determination can walk away with only 2 fish and 40 some follows like Don said. His reaction to his 48 was priceless, If he does make it to this forum, maybe he can get even more on tape next time with all the knowledge we have here.
Or like was said before, he could just spend a month at LSC and have enough footage for a whole season. Lol
Edited by Leviathan 4/13/2015 11:03 AM
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Location: MN | I think Don said he's booked for two weeks or a month this year!! |
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| Some of you guys aren't easily entertained. Its more of a reality show than most reality shows. My kids absolutely LOVE his show. In fact, I had to record the series for them which I normally do not watch. Then I came here and heard all the pub so obviously I had to watch it. My kids, none of whom have been with me while musky fishing, ALL want to go and try and catch one now.
This just got a lot more expensive for me, thanks a lot Jeremy Wade! |
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