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| I have the tiller version in the G series. The ONLY thing that I don't like about it is the 75HP max in the tiller version but that is a USCG issue and not a tuffy/yamaha issue. If a 17.5' console boat is what you are looking for you won't have much luck finding a better one. I have to think this boat with a 150 opti is a screamer.
I have had mine on everything from 60-150 acre potholes to Mille Lacs, Leech, LOTW and plenty more. Very versatile hull. I couldn't tell you what the draft is for sure but with mine I am pretty sure I have floated through 8-12" getting back into springtime pockets. Drafts very little water for a deep V and can handle sizable waves. |
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Location: Kildeer, IL | I agree with everything NickD said. I have had my 1760 pretty shallow, but not as shallow as my Tuffy Esox Ltd. I couldn't think of a better fit for my fishing style. The only thing I don't like is the placement of the gas fill. It is in the middle of the port side of the boat, and blocks an area that would be perfect for laying down rods.
I've had the boat on everything from 60 acre lakes to Sturgeon Bay. Just be careful and realize that you are only in a 17.5' boat. Don't put yourself on big water on a stormy day. I also have the 'G' series, but mine is a single console with a 115hp Yamaha. |
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Location: lake st clair michigan | I have a 1760 DW and I have ran it in 1.5 ft of water with no issue ...not sure I would want to run in any less....I have the 150hp mercury 4stroke and the boat is very fast .... I run my boat on lake st clair and have been in some real rough stuff a few times the boat handles it great and has a very dry ride ... only thing that I don't like is the cockpit area is a little tight because of the gunnel caps and right side console for the dw .....that being said I would not be without the dw ....if you have any questions feel free to pm me |
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Location: Madison, WI | I've been running an 07 1760 GC for the last three seasons and the layout is almost perfect. I agree with setme in the placement of the gas fill is horrible, but I actually cut mine off and made it flush to the deck so now I can lay rods right over it. I normally use mine on 2000-9000 acre lakes and that's right in the sweet spot for this boat I think. Any specific questions feel free to pm me. |
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| muskie-nick - 1/22/2015 4:59 PM
I have a 1760 DW and I have ran it in 1.5 ft of water with no issue ...not sure I would want to run in any less....I have the 150hp mercury 4stroke and the boat is very fast .... I run my boat on lake st clair and have been in some real rough stuff a few times the boat handles it great and has a very dry ride ... only thing that I don't like is the cockpit area is a little tight because of the gunnel caps and right side console for the dw .....that being said I would not be without the dw ....if you have any questions feel free to pm me
Good to hear this stuff Muskie-nick....just bought the same model, and its killing me everytime I go in the garge, to know I'm months away from getting out there! I'm guessing yours is the red one? Ill be in the gray/silver poly flake one, come on over!
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Location: lake st clair michigan | i feel your pain slime ...lol...got to use mine 2 times the first season before the lake froze....yes I do have the red one ....I will stop and say hi if I see you out there |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I am running a tiller 1760 T Osprey. With the 75 Merc 4 stroke, it's about 32 MPH with a 4 blade performance stainless prop. It will float in a foot.
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Location: With my son on the water | Andy
I know you and I have corrisponded already so you know lots about my rig, what it can do, and how I feel about it. I didn't mention how shallow it will go. The boat it self doesn't require much water but when you go to a rig this size you get the 25 inch transom. This is the first rig for me with a 25 and all my other boats had 20s. I don't know the technical reasons why they get larger but I am sure it make sense. When I am in shallow say (pitching for bass) my motor has made contact with a few things that my 20s didn't. Not a big deal at all just a learning curve to trim up a bit more. The one thing I didn't tell you is this rig comes standard with a trim switch up on the bow which is so nice.
For the rest of you, this boat IMO is the perfect boat or I would not have purchased it. I have the Merc 150 4 stroke with a (9.9 kicker mainly as an emergency backup) and it is scary fast.
If anyone is interested why I purchased this boat do a search for a (New Tuffy 1760) and look at my post from last June. Note we changed the location of the gas fill on my boat when it was made so I can lay 9 ft rods on the port side. I also didn't put on any net grabbers (cleats). But we installed small hand rails on each side.
Ha Have a good day everyone and think positive.
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | btfish- I see that you wrote that you'll bass fish out of your 1760. How does it work for shallow bass fishing? How high up from the water are you? Thanks. Paul |
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Location: With my son on the water | Paul
Yes we Bass fish a bunch until the Muskie's turn on a bit. To be honest we go way up tight into the crap. I go the same place everybody else goes. We are by no means limited where we fish because of the boat but we do have to trim the motor up. To answer you question how high up we are? I can only compare it to several Lunds that I had and we are definetely higher, this was a change for me and took a bit of adjustment but now I am used to it. It isn't too high that we can't lip fish (not Muskie)and when we net a muskie we are still able to leave the net in the water to work on the hooks. I am not sure this answeres your question?
To me my boat is kind of a high bread bass/deep vee boat. Remember we added the back deck extension right away which to me is a must. (Great deck space and storage). My boat has great deck space but still has an open cock pit where I can store a few large tackle boxes and a larger muskie net (in the open position ready to go). But yet when I am out on LOTW I can go anywhere I want and not worry too much about the weather.
If you haven't looked at my post from last June I would do so. This boat has some very nice things going for it that I honestly could not find in any other boat.
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| If you plan on bass fishing a lot look at the G-Series. The rail is 3" lower or so without the gunnel cap. I've caught a lot of bass out of mine. Does fine drifting big windswept flats for smallies or getting back in the pads for largies. I really like the inside depth with the G-series. Kneeling by the edge of the boat in the cockpit puts you close to a fish in the net or easily get your hands on a bass. The front deck is just low enough that I can kneel and lip a bass or sit and lip one.
Curious why everyone has so many issues with the gas fill being in the way? I have always had rods laying on the port side without issue. 7' range bass and walley poles as well as my 9'8" Predators for musky fishing. Usually my bait pile is on the carpet right in front of the gas fill and the rods lay nicely right along the pile. I usually have 3 rods on each side while fishing. |
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| Hey bt,
I see you said youve got a kicker on yours, I've got a 9.9 kicker off my last rig sitting in my garage, that I haven't had the chance to mount on my new one yet. It was fine on that one, so I'm sure it to be fine on this boat too, but just curious if you've noticed any negative effects to having it on there.....i.e. any listing to that side, or the back riding real low in the water?
*have one, too. At rest, at a dock with no one in it with a full tank of gas, the boat will lean in that direction and a little extra "@ss down". I have not noticed this when running or fishing though. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | I dont have much to add...beyond get the capless model. Just gives you more boat to fish from.
So, in lieu of anything to add...and since I love my boat almost as much as I love my wife...here are some pics of and from my ride.
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | Thanks guys. You have given me another boat to check out. My #1 love is big water smallmouth fishing but I also fish a lot of largemouth AND fish some 10 HP lakes that require a kicker. I will never own a big glass boat due to size and towing and I want something better in the rough water than a 18-19' bassboat. And I don't want a high-sided, tin deep V that catches all the wind. My #1 boat has been an X-190 but that is actually a little more boat than I want.
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| Sooooo Slamr,
Now that you have put a completely new meaning on the term "prop wash trolling", could you please entertain us with a short story on the killer whale trying to eat your prop? I can't be the only one wondering how u got this pic! If that's real, it's probably the coolest pic I've ever seen. And thx for adding comment to my post regarding the kicker, assuming that was you....good info to know. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | And thx for adding comment to my post regarding the kicker, assuming that was you....good info to know.
*sorry! I thought I was hitting the "quote" button! Instead, I was using the mystery "edit" button that you don't get. |
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| Slamr - 1/23/2015 4:58 PM
And thx for adding comment to my post regarding the kicker, assuming that was you....good info to know.
*sorry! I thought I was hitting the "quote" button! Instead, I was using the mystery "edit" button that you don't get.
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Location: Wisconsin | @sworrel
looks like carrol lake boat landing to me 
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | sworrel? 
It's Lake George, a mile from my place.
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| I live in Illinois and travel to the Madison area frequently. Are there any Tuffy dealers in the area that have boats in stock? If not could someone provide the name of a dealer?
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Marine Diversified in Burlington. Mike at 2622063045. |
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Location: Wisconsin | sworrall - 1/24/2015 8:17 AM
Marine Diversified in Burlington. Mike at 2622063045.
Just talked to Mike, seems like he is a real nice guy, and Tuffy is building a 1760 for him right now which he intends to have at the Milwaukee Musky Show. |
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| 2 things:
1) Nick, you mentioned being able to lay three 7 foot rods on the port side of your 1760 G and not have the gas fill get in the way. Sounds good, but trying to visualize - do you have any pictures?
2) Not to hijack the thread but anyone know how the 1760 compares to the Recon 785? Similar dimensions anyway..
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Location: With my son on the water | I did a very close comparison of the Recon 785 and the Tuffy 1760 before I purchased mine.
The Recon is not offered in a G model like the 1760 and to me the Recon was kind of cramped. Also the passenger seat on the Recon is on a molded base where as the passenger seat on the 1760 is on a pedastal. Both boats have similar storage.
I primarly purchased my boat for muskie fishing and I struggled where I could store a muskie net anywhere in the Recon. In the 1760 I have my net fully deployed with the hoop stuck in-between the passenger seat and the side if the boat with handle laying on the deck toward the front. The handle is basically right at my left foot. I also installed a carpeted piece of plywood on the side of the boat so when I lay rods on the port side shelf the rod w/ lure is seperated by the divider from the net. You can see this on the picture on my post (New Tuffy 1760) from last June.
The price of the two boats was very close, too close to be a factor for me. I don't believe Recons have any Kevlar in them but I could be wrong but Tuffy has Kevlar in many places. I am no expert on glass construction but the Tuffy to me seems much more solid.
Another factor was the sales rep. I purchased my boat through Mike and between he and Steve W they made sure everything w/is perfect. I just felt I would be taken care of better with a Tuffy versus a Recon and so far I have not been disappointed.
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| smalljaw - 1/25/2015 1:27 PM
1) Nick, you mentioned being able to lay three 7 foot rods on the port side of your 1760 G and not have the gas fill get in the way. Sounds good, but trying to visualize - do you have any pictures?
-jaw
I can try and get a picture Wednesday. The rod butts end up right at the end of the compartment door. They sit partially on the compartment door and I have baits usually between the rods and the gunnel area ahead of the gas fill. They sit sort of angled. I can still open the compartment door part ways. I run too long of rods to be able to lay them completely in the shelf on either side of the boat. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Hoffy - 1/24/2015 8:14 AM
I live in Illinois and travel to the Madison area frequently. Are there any Tuffy dealers in the area that have boats in stock? If not could someone provide the name of a dealer?
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Hoffy,
If you live in N.IL and just want to check out a 1760...you are more than welcome to come by and at least check mine out. And if interested, when the water gets a bit softer, I'd be happy to spend some time on the water. |
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Location: Downers Grove | I as well have a 05 1760 g series with a 150 optic. I love the boat, but have only 3 complaints. The plastic locks for the compartments. They are plastic and many have broke (my fault not twisting them down and eventually stubbing your toes on them) is there metal replacements or only plastic slammer? The gas line as stated above. Lastly the seat base for the pedestal seems to be way to close to the bow(no room to move it back because of the rod locker) it drives me nuts so I never have the pedestal in. I have the rear deck extension it is great for storage. Ive clocked the boat up to 54mph.
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | I'd love to see some more interior pics of the 1760 if anyone has them. Thanks. |
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| Nice looking 1760 but that looks like the full gunnel cap version. I echo the request for more interior photos - especially the cap-less gunnel version and with the rear casting deck option. It also sounds there are 2-3 different variations of the gas fill, interested to see those as well... Thx, -jaw |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Here's a couple more pictures:
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=96...
And some good ones of a tiller.
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=26...
I drool over every 1760 "G" picture I see. Someday I WILL own one of these boats. |
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Location: Wisconsin | Quit posting pics and threads about this boat!! Just makes me want one !
Maybe someday, like you curleytail. |
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| Good photos - thx. Hoping to see one with the rear casting deck in either console or tiller, but preferably tiller. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I've never found a tiller with the rear deck extension. If anybody has that option installed in their tiller I would be interested to see it as well. I think Worrall mentioned something about putting the driver's seat on a slider to accomodate the rear deck.
Here's a fair picture of a console with and without the rear deck extension.
http://bass.outdoorsfirst.com/classifieds/87312/TUFFY.GC/ |
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Location: Madison, WI | Here's my 07 with the rear deck, also you can see how I made the gas fill flush to the deck.
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Location: Downers Grove | Mine most likely will be up for sale this year or next. Its up at the lake house. I dont use it enough I only used it 6 days last year.. I will be posting it on the boards and it will be located in downers grove Illinois. |
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Location: Wisconsin | Briguy48 - 1/27/2015 8:29 PM
Mine most likely will be up for sale this year or next. Its up at the lake house. I dont use it enough I only used it 6 days last year.. I will be posting it on the boards and it will be located in downers grove Illinois.
Maybe when you are ready to sell, I will be ready to buy! I would love to get one of these rigs, just can't right now. |
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Location: Kildeer, IL | Here are some interior pictures. I don't have a rear casting deck, so I can't help you there.
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| I have the tuffy 1760 capless model wonderful boat. Instead of the rear casting deck i went to just en case and had him build a bait box that i use for the rear casting deck. works great |
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Location: Kildeer, IL | kkrieg, can you post a picture of your Just en Case setup? |
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | Setme- there is a fella with a X-190 that posted a Youtube clip where he replaced part of the floor over the battery and the charger with plexiglass in order to see the charge status. Thought it was a good idea. |
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Location: Kildeer, IL | Thank Paul, I saw that and thought it was a good idea. I was going to take it one step further and just cut a window into the rod locker floor. I don't need to see the batteries, I just need to see the charger indicator lights.
That same guy put a shelf under his console which I thought was a brilliant idea. I am going to try and do something similar, although I don't want to drill holes in my console. I might try to fiberglass in a shelf. It shouldn't be too hard.
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | If anyone is interested, the price of the Esox G series with a 150 4-stroke Merc without electronics or a TM would be right around 33K or pushing 36K with a TM and some graphs. |
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| i have a 1760gt white/silver.great boat!it rides like a 20 footer.very stable and very comfy to fish out of in most any condition.i've had it in water that i shouldn't have been on and i'm still here.as for the front pedestal being to far forward i moved my seat base back onto the rod locker lid in 2009,no issues what-so-ever.used a peice of 1/2" aluminum plate for backing under the lid and bolted it threw,solid as a rock.hardly ever take it out and it hasn't affected the hinge or lock.as for the location of the gas fill i put a velcro loop on the top of the fill and lay my big rods down over it and velcro them in in rough water.the 1760 is a fishing machine! |
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Location: Kildeer, IL | That's awesome kkrieg. Probably frees up a lot of space in the boat. Thanks for posting. |
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| Why does everyone talk about having to wax them all the time? Also I have heard that the sun can ruin them is that true?
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | muskyfishing89 - 2/4/2015 1:21 AM
Why does everyone talk about having to wax them all the time? Also I have heard that the sun can ruin them is that true?
My boat lived outside for two years and I am allergic to waxing my boat....even with these two things, a quick wash with even dawn soap and some light buffing and my boat shines. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | muskyfishing89 - 2/4/2015 1:21 AM
Why does everyone talk about having to wax them all the time? Also I have heard that the sun can ruin them is that true?
I don't own a fiberglass boat so keep that in mind but:
I've done lots of research and haven't heard anything about having to wax them all the time. You can wax an aluminum boat if you want too. Not sure it's necessary either. Sun will take a toll on anything if exposed enough for a long enough period of time. Leave an aluminum boat outside for 10 years, and the paint is going to fade. I'm always surprised at how much fishing reels fade over the years (just think, your skin was exposed for roughly the same length of time! Good reminder to cover up and use sunscreen).
It takes care and some dedication to keep any boat or vehicle looking like new for many years.
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | The only wax I put on my boat is through the wash-n-wax type soap that I use. My dad has an Alumacraft that he religously waxes every year. He says the wax makes it easier to clean the river scum off. He lives on the Ohio River and often fishes for cats in muddy water. His boats looks new and it is 14 years old.
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I've always been an aluminum boat guy but I have to say that 1760 capless tiller is one beautiful boat. Sorry if this question has been asked previously, but is there a way to have a rear casting deck extension on the 1760T ? |
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Location: Hayward, WI | DF,
We Hayward guys must think alike. 1760 capless tiller is the ONLY boat I am considering. Check out this link.
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=97...
I think near the bottom of the 3rd page, Worrall mentions being able to add the rear deck to the tillers. Mounting the seat to a slider to move it away from the deck while fishing sounds interesting.
P.S. I think the better 1/2 has given me the go ahead to start looking for a used one. Keeping my eyes peeled for a 2006 or newer capless 1760 tiller.
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The other thing I didn't care for was the gas fill design, which I see somebody has already modified. Can this modification be done at the factory ?
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | BY USCG requirements, any overflow from the gas fill MUST end up outside the boat. if it doesn't, your boat is not legal, and if an insurance claim happens or someone is injured, you will be liable.
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | sworrall - 2/4/2015 9:13 PM
BY USCG requirements, any overflow from the gas fill MUST end up outside the boat. if it doesn't, your boat is not legal, and if an insurance claim happens or someone is injured, you will be liable.
I think the factory has figured out a way to get the fill moved...if I remember correctly one was built last year. Not sure what they did.
Thanks for the reply Steve. If you happen to hear of how/where the gas fill was moved I'd be interested in learning how it was done. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | By the way, my 1760 T powered by a 75ELHPT Merc 4 stroke runs about 31 MPH GPS loaded up. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | sworrall - 2/4/2015 9:44 PM
By the way, my 1760 T powered by a 75ELHPT Merc 4 stroke runs about 31 MPH GPS loaded up.
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| I run a 1760 GT and I will say its an smooth ride. A Great fishing platform and all around awsome boat, couldnt be more happy with it. I have fished out of Rudy's 1760 for a few years and I fish out of the back. I have no issuses with room using the livewell and electronics box for a casting deck. I do agree it would be nice to have a bigger rear casting deck, but then you will run into a reach problem to run your tiller. At one point you will have to turn the motor. Longer tiller/deck = more reach, its at a happy meduim as its built now. Andy Hendrickson has a rear deck extension on his tiller guide boat( ill try to post the pic) you can see with the design how you will have to sit on it.
Not great for leg room.
As for the front seat mount I ordered mine with no seat post and then installed one on the rod locker with an aluminum plate for support, The same as Rudy explained. Now I have lots of foot room. I have no worries of straingth mounting the seat there after running in some of the water we have run in, very soild.
All the boats Ive looked at only one fit for what I wanted, the 1760 GT, as any boat you have to change some stuff while you rig it but thats what makes it YOUR boat.
The performance is awsome wind doesnt cacth you, it sits in the water low enough for my style, and handles rough waterr amazing for its size.
Im in eastern Iowa and would be happy give any one a ride that is looking at this boat.
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Location: Hayward, WI | That does look like it might be a bit of a long reach, especially on big turns as you said. I seem to remember seeing a picture of an 1890 with two of the electronics boxes in back, and I think the seat was mounted on one of them.
That looked like an interesting combo. A little harder to get into the box with the seat mounted perhaps, but also just a little more room. The Tuffys I've been in at the musky show with the Osprey rear deck (livewell), have also had the electronics box, which gives a little extra foot room.
The splash well does seem nice too. It just seems one would need to be a little aware to pick their feet up when they move to make sure they don't trip over the divider between the splashwell and livewell lid.
In their stock form, there is more standing room on the rear deck of a 1760T than there is on my old style Alumacraft Navigator 165 Tiller.
I see Worrall said his boat is getting 31-32 on the GPS. I've heard others say mid 30's on GPS which I usually think of as 34-36. Is that attainable with 1 person and a medium to light load? It's a tiller and I'm not a speed freak so no big deal, but just curious.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I don't have the boat propped for speed, so yes it is. To use a rear deck on a tiller, you need to mount the seat flush with the deck module and use a seat slide. |
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| "If you happen to hear of how/where the gas fill was moved I'd be interested in learning how it was done."
If you go back and do a search for a post from btfish on 6/14/14 he posted a picture of his new 1760 where he said they moved the gas fill. The picture is from the front angle so hard to tell how much it was moved, but it was so he could lay longer rods on the port side. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | smalljaw - 2/5/2015 1:50 PM
"If you happen to hear of how/where the gas fill was moved I'd be interested in learning how it was done."
If you go back and do a search for a post from btfish on 6/14/14 he posted a picture of his new 1760 where he said they moved the gas fill. The picture is from the front angle so hard to tell how much it was moved, but it was so he could lay longer rods on the port side.
I saw that, but if you read Steve's response below, that approach goes against USCG requirements, and there's no way in he!! I'd make that same modification. Steve has also suggested that a gas fill relocation strategy may have been worked out at the factory. I'm staying tuned to see how this was achieved.
sworrall - 2/4/2015 9:13 PM
BY USCG requirements, any overflow from the gas fill MUST end up outside the boat. if it doesn't, your boat is not legal, and if an insurance claim happens or someone is injured, you will be liable.
I think the factory has figured out a way to get the fill moved...if I remember correctly one was built last year. Not sure what they did. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Cool, thanks Steve. My Navigator tops out at about 32. Fine with me, but on LOTW last year I was thinking that a boat that cruised at about 30-32 without being on the edge of full throttle wouldn't be such a bad thing.
The gas fill is interesting. I think btfish had his gas fill modified at the factory if I remember right. By appearance it would seem to violate the USCG requirements, but they might have done some other mods that aren't visible to make it legal.
I'm not TOO bothered by the fill setup. The rod locker would hold most of the rods I'm not using, and the rest of them should be easy to fit on the deck and/or other side. It would be more of an issue to me if I wanted a console though, as then neither side has a shelf long enough to lay rods down. |
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| I'm guessing here but I think moving the gas fill might be within USCG rules more than cutting it down flush to the carpet. ??
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Location: Hayward, WI | Smalljaw - Yes my bad! I had too many images of Tuffy's in my head. I looked back at the link of Btfish's boat and it looks like that one is just moved further towards the bow. I had the image of the one shortened to the carpet in my mind. |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | curleytail - 2/5/2015 7:49 PM
Smalljaw - Yes my bad! I had too many images of Tuffy's in my head. I looked back at the link of Btfish's boat and it looks like that one is just moved further towards the bow. I had the image of the one shortened to the carpet in my mind.
That's the photo I had in mind as well. |
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| As a 1760GT owner I don't understand the gas fill gripe?? I run 2-4 rods on the port side all the time without issue. I run 9'8" predators and end of the rod butt ends up a few inches short where the compartment doors end on each side of the boat. The tips end up short of the portion that goes to full cap towards the rear. The rods end up sitting on the port side door a bit more but I can still open it easily. The rods end up partially on top of the starboard compartments as well but they open as well. It's a 17'er so anything over 7ft or so isn't fitting completely in the shelves anyways. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | muskyfishing89 - 2/5/2015 11:07 PM
Why is the beam on it not very wide? How stable is it?
Because it's a 17.5' boat? Plenty of fishing room. The hull and interior are designed for big water performance, easy to plane, fast, soft, and reasonably dry ride for a 17.5' boat. Most who have one say it fishes much bigger.
Very stable at rest.
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| How big is the front deck is it bigger then the Skeeter MX1825? Can you fish two people off of it? |
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Location: Madison, WI | The front deck is plenty big to fish 2 people very comfortably. Ive been in both the 1760 and the mx1825 and the 1760 deck is def bigger than a dual console 1825. On a SC they are very similar, but the console on the Tuffy is mounted to the back of the front deck where its molded into the deck slightly on the Skeeter. If the consoles were not molded in the Skeeter, then the MX would win. The cockpit space goes to the Skeeter. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | When comparing 18' boats, 18' boats should be compared.
Look at the Tuffy 1890 to compare with the 1825 Skeeter. |
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Location: Madison, WI | I was answering the question posted above. Also the Tuffy 1890 is 18'11" witch many would consider a 19' boat. |
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| Would it be a good river boat? |
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| Can it draft as shallow as the X-190? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | danmuskyman,
I was talking to 89, not you...thanks.
Both the 18' plus models are 97" wide.
The 1760 is a 17.5' boat and has an 84" beam. Not a reasonable comparison, it's a smaller boat rated for 150. Both the Skeeter and the Tuffy 18' models are rated 200.
Very little difference between the X190 and the 1890 in draft when rigged with the same engines. The 1760 will float in a couple inches less. Completely different hull design. Define 'river boat'. A very shallow river with lots of rapids? No.
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| Do you think it's the best do it all hull they make? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Actually, yes. It does everything pretty well and is a safe boat in the big stuff. |
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| sworrall - 2/6/2015 8:20 PM
Look at the Tuffy 1890 to compare with the 1825 Skeeter.
apples to oranges, imho, as the Tuffy 1890 is most similar to the Skeeter WX1910.
Tuffy 1890: 18'11", 96" beam, 25" interior depth, 1600lbs, 200hp
Skeeter WX1910: 19'1", 95.5" beam, 24" interior depth, 2175lbs, 200hp
many customers looking at the 1825 and 1760 are people currently in a 16-18' aluminum boat and are considering a switch to fiberglass. you've really got to get inside these boats to be able to compare them. measurements don't tell you anything about how the space is used and how it fits your fishing style. even better is to get a test drive. thankfully all boats aren't exactly the same...
Skeeter MX1825: 18'4", 97" beam, 21.5" interior depth, 2075lbs, 200hp
Tuffy 1760: 17'6", 84" beam, 26" interior depth, 1400lbs, 150hp
Lund 1850 Impact XS: 18'7", 94" beam, 1440lbs, 150hp
Alumacraft Competitor: 17'8", 95" beam, 1375lbs, 150hp
Lund 1775 Impact: 17'9", 94" beam, 1220lbs, 125hp
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| One of the things I like about it is it doesn't need a big motor. I love the X-190 but people say don't ever under power your boat I don't know if I wan't a 200 Hp on it. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The X190 runs in the low 50's with a 150. The 1760 runs in the high 40's to low 50's with a 150. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | If I wanted to have good fuel economy, a great hole shot, and run 45 mph at 4000 rpms with WOT speed at 52 or so the way I load a boat, then I'd put a 150 Merc 4 stroke on an X190. I'd personally run a 115 4 stroke on a 1760. |
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | sworrall - 2/7/2015 10:53 AM
If I wanted to have good fuel economy, a great hole shot, and run 45 mph at 4000 rpms with WOT speed at 52 or so the way I load a boat, then I'd put a 150 Merc 4 stroke on an X190. I'd personally run a 115 4 stroke on a 1760.
Really hope Merc is going to come out with a 175 4-stroke. That's what I'd want to put on an X-190. I am not a speed guy or max out the HP at all costs sort of guy but I'd have to go 200 over 150. I used to think I'd go with a 175 Optimax but I want to go 4-stroke. |
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| What's approximate package price for an x-190 Esox with Merc 150 4stroke... And can that be done ok with a single axle trailer? |
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Location: Madison, WI | The 1760 with a 115 4stroke with 2 guys and gear consistently runs 36-38 mph. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | smalljaw - 2/7/2015 5:45 PM
What's approximate package price for an x-190 Esox with Merc 150 4stroke... And can that be done ok with a single axle trailer?
Call or email a dealer for a quote, please. If you have a kicker on the boat, you will need a tandem axle trailer. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | yes. |
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| Have you guy's fished from the X-190 and the 1760 which do you like better? |
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Location: With my son on the water | I have fished out of both and to be honest I did not see any advantages in one over the other. Both had plenty of deck space and storage space. Both where rock soild boats. Both had the speed/ability to get around.
When I fished out of the x-190 the weather wasn't too bad so it wasn't rough so I can't speak to that.
The x-190 I fished out of had a 150 and the owner wished he had a 200.
I compared both very close and the x-190 with a tandem trailer & 200 is much more of a package than the 1760 (w/150) I ended up getting.
If a guy had the cash, large enough boat storage place, and didn't have to worry about moving a tandem axle trailer by hand I am positive the x-190 would be great. But for me the above issues were a concern so I went with the 1760 and have been very pleased.
Which ever one you would get I would strongely recommend the back deck extension. I don't have pictures but I have 10 of the large 3700 series plano boxes that fit really nice in the storage of each side. I put five boxes on edge on each side. I have my baits seperated by box and have each box labeled accordingly. The nice thing is they are all locked up.
My 1760 still has storage compartments that are not full, can fish three guys very well, can handle rough water, is able to stow 8'6" rods in the locker and goes 53 mph if I want to. Plus I can move the trailer by hand and it fits in the garages I have. So it works for me.
I hope this answers your question.
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | btfish- Thanks again for all your informative posts.
Garage space is an issue for me if I get a X-190 especially if I get a dual axle trailer. And I also have an incline driveway. Here is what I plan of getting. http://www.trailervalet.com/
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| I bought a trailer valet last year. I have a sloped driveway and a wrist I had surgery on. The trailer valet helped a lot, but my boat is smaller and single axle. Not sure how it would work on a larger boat with double axle. Hence my interest on a single axle only.. |
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| Question on the starboard side of the 1760 "GC." There appears to be room between the console and open gunnel. Is there room here to lay rods along the side -either- from the back of the boat towards the console, or from the bow to the console?
My fishing partners and I like to have our 3 primary rods out at any given time and switch off frequently. Having them readily available is key. So, if the gas fill is moved to a convenient spot on the port side to accommodate 3 rods, am looking for a spot on starboard side to do the same. Could put in a vertical rod rack on the console but have found that to be in the way too often on other boats that I have had. |
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Location: With my son on the water | Yes, absolutely.
What you are asking works great. I typically have 5 up front point back the way you are discribing. I have a velcro rod saver to hold them in. You can also put 2 maybe 3 shorter rods behind the console if you want to but I just haven't had the need.
Between the rod locker and deck you should be able to have 20 rods if you need that many.
I hope that answers you question and have a good day. |
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| Thx bt, how long of rods can you lay from the bow back towards the console, and do they lay flat on the carpet or do the tips rest on the side of the console? |
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Location: With my son on the water | Smalljaw
I can't give you an exact answer on that one because we normally don't need to put rods there. However sometime we do have 2 rods setup for trolling that we store there. We are by no means avid trollers so we don't have anything special. But the rods we use are 6'9" and we have had them there for a week or more without interfering with anything else we are doing. I put a velcro rod saver there too and we kind of strap them in and forget about them. I think the tips rid up on the console but not high enough to make contact with the rods from the front.
I hope this answers your question.
We have found a lot of simple ways to keep things organized in the boat. When I load it up again in the spring I will take a few pics and post it with some notes.
Enjoy your day.
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Location: With my son on the water | Hey SmallJaw
I miss read your question Sorry. (I need to wear my glasses more)
The answer I gave you refers to behind the console by the drivers seat. Your question is how long of rods fit in-front of the console.
I use a 6'6" for a Poes Awaker/Jackpot. I have that bait on that rod all the time and I store that rod behind the console like I explained before. I never take it off and we grab that rod when the conditions are right. It fits well back there and we only use it on occation so we kind of forget about it.
In-front of the console the shortest rod I use is a 7'6" and the longest is a 8'6". I normally have a total of 3 rods up front. To answer your question I don't think any of those will lay flat on the deck (but the 6'6" does). But the point where the tip make contact with the console is very smooth and the tips do not extend out past the outside of the gunnel. So they do fit well and I mentioned I have a velcro strap there to hold them down. So my 8'6" fits with no problem and I am sure you could go longer.
I have been contemplainting cutting a round hole in the front vertical panel in the front and inserting either a plastic or stainless pipe that the butt of the rod would slide into but I just haven't figured out exactly how to do that yet. I would need to have the mounting collar on a bit of an angle which could be tricky. I am still figuring this one out but I have some other ideas. The reason I am thinking this is then I doubt you would need the strap. (To be honest I rarely strap my rods down because the ride in this boat is very smooth)
If Tuffy made a small change to the mold of the console they could manufacture a groove/slot for rods to lay in and add the feature to the front for the butt tips like I mentioned which would be a nice standard selling feature.
I hope this answers your question.
Enjoy your day.
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | Took a look at the John's 1760 listed on this website http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/classifieds/102724/Tuffy.Osprey/ and was very impressed. Very good condition and awesome electronics, Powerpole, and trolling motor. While I have decided the X-190 is the boat for me, the 1760 is a great looking boat and if I was in the market for this boat, I would be buying John's boat. Check it out if interested. |
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| I am in the process of pricing out a new 1760 GC with the Esox package with Boulder Marine. Many of the comments on this thread have been valuable. I noticed one comment that you were able to lock up 8'6" rods. The rod locker specs say it will hold 8' rods. Is there enough wiggle room for that additional 6 inches? I will also be asking about moving the gas fill -- was that an expensive option? Last, glad to see Steve's comment that he would place a 115 4-stroke on the boat. That is exactly what Mike recommended and that is what I'm going with. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Thousand Island, I have a 2008 1760 GT and it will fit 8'6" rods in the top tubes. I haven't tried loading it up full yet, but the top two middle tubes will fit an 8'6" rod for sure.
I think an 8' rod can be fit in all the other tubes, provided you can flex them enough to get them to fit. The very bottom rows might be tough to get some 8 footers to fit. |
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