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| hi to all,
i am Marc from Europe,and need some advice for trolling with big lures,this's new for me,like jake's, grandma's,believers or slammers size 10(most of time)to max 13"
i used before smaller lures 6 a 7"with with carbon rods,no problem with them even when it's cold
but after reading here,i see that there are rods snapping down from carbon when it's cold
what's the reason that they break these rods?too big lures or...
so you intend to use hybrid rods with fiber glass,but the most rods that i can find or 8 ft but i(we)like to use longer rods like9 or 10ft,so 2 pieces
is there some advice for this problem or do i want something that not exist:)or what is a good rod for this kind of lures,i like nice stuff because it's make me more happy all day even when i don't catch...
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| Get a Tackle industries 9'xxheavy,it troll anything you can snap on I'm sure.caught me a 54 3/4" pig on one last night at 10pm and it was a balmy 26* out.Im sure there's better full time trollers out there but thats just my opinion, they'll work and there tough.
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Posts: 8
| thanks,i already look at them and can get them here,but i was then more looking for xh.
maybe they don't have issues with breaking rods in cold weather,but i need more expertise and advice for fiber rods(for less problems on longer term)
i own a lamiglass spinner rod and happy with it,do they have some trolling rods for this baites?any other brand for this purpose is welcome
i gone use them with tekota or okuma catalina lc reel |
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Posts: 72
| Hello Marco,
I am from Europe as well (Austria). The problem is that there are not many rods available in Europe especially no 2 piece rod s. You can get the Tackle Industries Rods at franglaisfishing. They are not made for trolling but they are a lot softer than a St. Croix Rod or a Musky Innovations rod so they should be ok for trolling.
I think the problem with snapping rods is that they troll pretty brutal compared what most people do in europe for pike. Big Lures, High Speed (double the speed as for pike trolling or even more), banging rocks etc ...
Please let me know which country you are from because here in Austria most of the time only electric motors are allowed and the musky trolling style is not really possible.
You can also look at some sea pilking rods, the should be available in europe, cheap and from Glass which is best for trolling large lures
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Location: South-Central PA | Rods built from graphite and carbon fiber do not snap because of cold temps. You will never fish in temps cold enough to make them brittle. The reason these rods break in certain applications like trolling, sucker fishing, and vertical jigging, is that graphite is not as good at absorbing shock loads as fiberglass.
The reason guys are breaking rods is because they are using graphite rods with a high modulus rating for applications that the rods were not designed for. Stay away from these rods when trolling (especially large baits), sucker fishing, and vertical jigging. The problem isn't the rods, it's the guys using them for the wrong application.
That being said, Tackle Industries rods are a lower-modulus, moderate action that would work well for trolling. Pick up a 9'XH in 2-piece and you'll be set.
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| ...except the size of the handles.
I love TI Rods. I own four myself. Just make sure the handles fit into whatever rod holder you are using.
Not an issue is you hold the rod. Then TI it is. The longer length of the back handle makes it easy to hold against your body and forearm.
I use Shimano TDR's for my trolling which is mostly prop-wash trolling.
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| lugi,i am from Belgium but for pike fishing i go to holland,lot more nice waters and much more pike:)
shimano offer nice rods in U.S.for trolling but not here maybe online then but that make with importVAT a similar price as for the TI rods
it's not easy to buy a rod when yo don't have it in your hands:) |
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| Marco, I sent you a pm
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Location: Walker, MN | These are graphite but...have you looked here? http://migizifishingrods.com/
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Location: Neenah, WI | search trolling rods , lots of great information
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| get charters choice rods. tiger stik blank. available from 7-10fters. I have a pair that are 35 years old. they were used on 2 charterboats. eva foam handles. you can pik up a deadweight 10lb bowling ball. try that with other rods without safety glasses on.. |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | I think Lugi is spot on with his answer. I've used my casting rods for years trolling well into November and haven't broke one yet, suprisingly. The way we troll with pounding rocks and getting snags is not easy on them for sure and throw in some of the more stout rod holders and a tighter drag is a recipe for breaking rods. Set your drag appropriately and most any decent quality rod will treat you well. TI's are great sticks and the XH would work well for the size baits you're looking at. May not be the 'perfect ideal' rod for cold weather application as others will point out but will do the job well, is availablet to you, and gives you another casting stick as well! |
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| it sounds like what you need are Okuma classic Pro GLT dipsey diver rods they're two piece so shipping shouldn't be an issue if they aren't available in Europe. |
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| thanks guys,there's a lot to search over again:)
i need some time and let know what it's gone be but you can always let know when there are more good rods
but for this kind of lures,never used them before,how heavy must the rod to handle them? |
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| I would take a look at the 2 piece TI XXH, i'm from Denmark, and basically the same limited selection of rods as you, i use some old saltwater pilk/jig rods, when i know i going to troll alot (rarely :P) but i used the TI rod to troll big cranks and, pounders and other hard pulling baits, and they work great for the job. |
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| thanks for all the info,it's gone be a TI xxh like mention from some anglers |
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