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Will Schultz
Posted 11/19/2014 12:35 PM (#740808)
Subject: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Michigan stocked 5000 fall fingerlings in Little Bay de Noc this fall.
Grass
Posted 11/19/2014 12:44 PM (#740809 - in reply to #740808)
Subject: Re: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.




Posts: 609


Location: Seymour, WI
The yoopers will be eating good in a couple of yrs.
BNelson
Posted 11/19/2014 1:12 PM (#740811 - in reply to #740808)
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Location: Contrarian Island
That's pretty awesome Will... first stocking there? How many acres is the bay?
KenK
Posted 11/19/2014 1:29 PM (#740814 - in reply to #740808)
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Posts: 574


Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI
Hopefully GLS!
ToddM
Posted 11/19/2014 1:36 PM (#740815 - in reply to #740808)
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Posts: 20178


Location: oswego, il
Is this a yearly thing? Hope so will be a great musky fishery.
Will Schultz
Posted 11/19/2014 1:49 PM (#740818 - in reply to #740808)
Subject: Re: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
This is the first year. That bay is about 30,000 acres. We (MI-DNR) only stock GLS in Michigan now with the exception of a few Wisco. strain (+/- 3000) traded with Wisconsin for lakes with naturalized W-strain. LBdN should get stocked for two more years then it will be on an every other year rotation.

Edited by Will Schultz 11/19/2014 1:58 PM
DRPEPIN
Posted 11/19/2014 3:20 PM (#740828 - in reply to #740808)
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Posts: 164


This is exciting because muskies have been showing up there occasionally from the Green Bay plantings. More genetics is a great thing. I look forward to eventually being able to muskie fish the bays I grew up fishing.
Jschinderle
Posted 11/19/2014 3:40 PM (#740831 - in reply to #740808)
Subject: Re: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.




Posts: 36


Great News, thanks for posting. Which hatchery do these fish come from
Cedar
Posted 11/19/2014 6:54 PM (#740851 - in reply to #740808)
Subject: RE: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.




Posts: 341


Location: Western U.P.
Have done some searches, but not found much info on Musky stockings in Lake Superior around the U.P. The Lake Superior Chapter of Muskies Inc looks like they are doing stockings in MN & WI, but didn't see much of anything for this side of the big lake. Any of you guys involved in the LBDN stocking know if there have been, or any possibilities/future plans for stocking Muskies in the West half of Superior?
muskie! nut
Posted 11/19/2014 8:41 PM (#740858 - in reply to #740851)
Subject: RE: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.





Posts: 2894


Location: Yahara River Chain
Cedar - 11/19/2014 6:54 PM
any possibilities/future plans for stocking Muskies in the West half of Superior?


Other than the St Louis River, Lake Superior would probably be too cold for muskies.
MuskieE
Posted 11/19/2014 11:07 PM (#740870 - in reply to #740808)
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Posts: 2068


Location: Appleton,WI
Not true a few places on superior hold musky
Cedar
Posted 11/19/2014 11:23 PM (#740872 - in reply to #740858)
Subject: RE: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.




Posts: 341


Location: Western U.P.
muskie! nut - 11/19/2014 8:41 PM

Cedar - 11/19/2014 6:54 PM
any possibilities/future plans for stocking Muskies in the West half of Superior?


Other than the St Louis River, Lake Superior would probably be too cold for muskies.


MuskieE is correct. I've been catching them in Superior (U.P. waters) for many years. Wouldn't mind seeing the populations in the small pockets of fish helped out, and maybe expanded upon.

Edited by Cedar 11/19/2014 11:25 PM
smada
Posted 11/20/2014 6:10 AM (#740879 - in reply to #740831)
Subject: Re: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.




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Jschinderle - 11/19/2014 3:40 PM

Great News, thanks for posting. Which hatchery do these fish come from


Wolf Lake Fish hatchery. SW MI
jonnysled
Posted 11/20/2014 6:54 AM (#740882 - in reply to #740808)
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Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
that's a winter Walleye ice mecca ... did you get any reverb from the Walleye community prior to stocking?
Will Schultz
Posted 11/20/2014 8:40 AM (#740888 - in reply to #740882)
Subject: Re: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

jonnysled - 11/20/2014 7:54 AM that's a winter Walleye ice mecca ... did you get any reverb from the Walleye community prior to stocking?

As far as I know there wasn't any push back from anyone on the LBdN restoration. In most of the waters where the GL-Muskies are being restored it's been the opposite, the local walleye groups are in support of muskellunge stocking.

Will Schultz
Posted 11/20/2014 8:49 AM (#740890 - in reply to #740851)
Subject: RE: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Cedar - 11/19/2014 7:54 PM Have done some searches, but not found much info on Musky stockings in Lake Superior around the U.P. The Lake Superior Chapter of Muskies Inc looks like they are doing stockings in MN & WI, but didn't see much of anything for this side of the big lake. Any of you guys involved in the LBDN stocking know if there have been, or any possibilities/future plans for stocking Muskies in the West half of Superior?
The only waters managed by Michigan in that area are in the class of waters that probably won't be stocked but should see an increase in population with the regulation change that was put in place a couple years ago. Spearing continues to be the primary thing holding many of our waters back from being world class.

 



Edited by Will Schultz 11/20/2014 8:50 AM
tcbetka
Posted 11/20/2014 11:01 AM (#740902 - in reply to #740890)
Subject: Re: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.




Location: Green Bay, WI
I would think it would be quite easy to reassure the walleye guys regarding any concerns they had. I mean, look at Green Bay--a world-class fishery for both muskies and walleyes. I can't imagine the number of muskies would amount to much of anything, in terms of total biomass.
Yooper Padre
Posted 11/20/2014 3:22 PM (#740939 - in reply to #740808)
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Posts: 337


Location: Watersmeet, Michigan
Any documentation on this? I'd like to post this info. at UPAngler and get some reactions there, but can't find anything about it and the DNR stocking records do not have anything.

I'd guess the response will not be good, especially since the walleye fishery has really been down and the perch are just making a come-back.

Fr. K
Will Schultz
Posted 11/20/2014 3:38 PM (#740941 - in reply to #740939)
Subject: RE: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

Yooper Padre - 11/20/2014 4:22 PM Any documentation on this? I'd like to post this info. at UPAngler and get some reactions there, but can't find anything about it and the DNR stocking records do not have anything. I'd guess the response will not be good, especially since the walleye fishery has really been down and the perch are just making a come-back. Fr. K

The MI-DNR site usually takes a few weeks to get updated after stocking. The LBdN fish were stocked in late October so should be on there soon. As we all know, the muskellunge aren't going to have a negative impact on walleye or perch - no need to stir the pot and get anglers wound up over nothing.

tcbetka
Posted 11/20/2014 3:54 PM (#740942 - in reply to #740941)
Subject: Re: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.




Location: Green Bay, WI
I would agree. As I mentioned in my first post, Green Bay is a PRIME example of how muskies and walleyes can live in the same ecosystem and not harm one another. There is plenty of forage out there. And my guess is that a few hundred ice-fisherman on a nice weekend in March can make as big a dent in the perch population than a crap load of muskies. Trying to convince the perch-fishing masses of that will be a bit of a challenge though, I'll bet.
Yooper Padre
Posted 11/20/2014 4:12 PM (#740944 - in reply to #740808)
Subject: Re: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.





Posts: 337


Location: Watersmeet, Michigan
I agree that muskies have little negative impact on perch and muskie populations, but a lot of fisherman do not share that belief. These are the guys (and there are plenty of them) who cut the gills of every muskie they catch. My concern is that with less than healthy perch and walleye populations, a number of fishermen may follow the same route and greatly harm these Esox.

Fr. K
Will Schultz
Posted 11/20/2014 7:08 PM (#740972 - in reply to #740944)
Subject: Re: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

Yooper Padre - 11/20/2014 5:12 PM I agree that muskies have little negative impact on perch and muskie populations, but a lot of fisherman do not share that belief. These are the guys (and there are plenty of them) who cut the gills of every muskie they catch. My concern is that with less than healthy perch and walleye populations, a number of fishermen may follow the same route and greatly harm these Esox. Fr. K

This is simply a matter of education. The myths are just that, myths. It's up to us, muskie anglers, to dispel these myths and educate anglers. One average angler fishing that water is going to catch and eat more perch/wallleye than hundreds of muskies. The DNR doesn't stock muskies randomly, decisions are based on what the fishery needs and can support. It is likely that the walleye and perch fishery will improve as the muskie population takes hold. White and redhorse suckers compete directly with walleye and perch and those just happen to be at the top of the menu for muskies.

tcbetka
Posted 11/20/2014 7:59 PM (#740990 - in reply to #740808)
Subject: Re: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.




Location: Green Bay, WI
Sure seems to have helped Green Bay. Not that the muskies are the only reason those populations are doing as well, because a lot of it also has to do with clean water. A rising tide lifts all boats, and all that.
Will Schultz
Posted 11/25/2014 1:13 PM (#741645 - in reply to #740939)
Subject: RE: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

Yooper Padre - 11/20/2014 4:22 PM Any documentation on this? Fr. K

 http://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/MIDNR/bulletins/de9f26

Reef Hawg
Posted 12/5/2014 5:02 PM (#742869 - in reply to #740808)
Subject: RE: Green Bay Stocking… Kinda.




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
Been out of the loop, hunting for the past couple weeks. That is great news, Will! I emailed/called the DNR and asked clubs about stocking that water a decade or so ago, when the first wave of Green Bay fish were peaking and it was becoming clear that NR was as evident as hoped in the areas stocked to that point.. I thank you all for getting it done. There is as much structure/clean river miles in that body of water as the rest of the lower bay, and it will only help support the rest of the system. I am very excited about this, knowing that prior to commercial overharvest, industrialization and the subsequent Clean Water Act of 1972, there were Muskies present and prospering in that area.

Most of all, I appreciate the MI DNR stocking, and stocking Great Lakes fish in those types of numbers, at this time.
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