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| I'm facing a rude awakening here... People are catching dozens and dozens of fish and averaging a fish in the bag per 4 - 5 hours this year? |
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| All depends what lake you are fishing. St. Clair or LOTW you might get a fish every 5-6 hrs and Mille Lacs you might get a fish every 40+ hours. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | yes to some degree it depends...but I know good anglers who fish mainly in Northern WI, they avg a fish every 4-6 hrs on water and fish tons of different lakes, same story for some of the anglers I know in MN...same thing, they fish multiple lakes over the season and avg a fish in the net every 4-6 hours.. Mille Lacs and LSC are the 2 far extremes...by and large we are all fishing waters with musky populations at .2 to .5 per acre... of course if you fish mainly action waters the #s can be skewwed and if you mainly fish lakes like Mille Lacs the # is skewwed... I know most are out fishing and don't chime in here but I'd be curious how the guides are doing ... I have heard some guides in MN are def having down years for #s and size as well.
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| jaultman - 9/10/2014 12:32 PM
I'm facing a rude awakening here... People are catching dozens and dozens of fish and averaging a fish in the bag per 4 - 5 hours this year?
Ha right? I must be doing something wrong. Hell I even hired a great guide and hit 3 lakes with him during a full day and didnt boat anything with three of us fishing. |
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| Yep. Same here. I'm going on 40 hours here pretty quick fishing stocked waters without a bite. Maybe 4-6 hours when the fish are really biting. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | it's an average... yah you maybe have gone 40 hours w no fish, but in next 5 you could boat 5 or more to get your avg back down there.. heck we all go long stretches w out a fish... but over the course of 100, 200, 500, or a 1000 hrs it will avg out... just like MLB hitters going 25 at bats w out a hit..then they go 9 for 10 ... averages are just that.
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Location: Rhinelander | Brad is correct.
Just recently had a 11 hour day with 4 fish caught. Week before had a 9 hour day with zero fish caught. The four fish topped at 44" (2) at low 40's and a mid 30's fish.
But the norm for us is to fish, what we believe for that day, the most productive times. Fishing this way will keep your catch to hour ratio lower than multiple all day marathons during poor conditions. |
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Location: MN | Except you mean that "your catch per hour ratio" will increase if you fish that way (most productive times). Your hour per catch would be lower. |
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Location: MN | This is some interesting data from the Frank Schneider tournament held over the weekend in northern Minnesota.
Goes to show how tough the bite was. Obviously not everyone fished all 28 hours of the tournament, but just to put it in perspective: 550 anglers x 28 hours = 15,400 hours for 86 fish caught. That's 179 hours per fish 40 or bigger caught, on a variety of some of the best waters Minnesota has to offer. That's nearly fifteen 12 hour days per fish! |
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| Come on up to Vermilion and average one fish every 4 to 6 hours!!
Ain't happening, over the season, unless you are using dynamite
Vermilion has been better this year, compared to the last couple of years.
It's not hours per fish, on the Big V, it's days per fish.
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| How many under 40 were caught?
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Location: MN | achotrod - 9/10/2014 5:07 PM
How many under 40 were caught?
We don't count those |
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| Lol they count in my boat. Just sayin the numbers are off because they dont count. |
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Location: MN | Throw in as many little fish as you like - numbers still pretty low |
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| Propster - 9/10/2014 8:22 PM
Throw in as many little fish as you like - numbers still pretty low
Make it 5 "unders" for every one "over", and you're still talking 36 man-hours per fish, which SUCKS. Rough tournament!
I will now blame my miserable results last weekend fully on the weather. Thanks. |
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Location: Shoreview, MN | So throughout this thread no one has actually posted anything they personally did differently this year! If people are making adjustments let's hear 'em. I fish a few lakes in the NE MN Metro about once a week and I can say that June was fine/normal patterns but July-Aug was mostly the dead sea for me doing things that worked in the past. It's picked up in the past couple weeks and my usual Sept stuff is working. But I'm still scratching my head about what happened over the summer - the typically fly hatches that usually signal a suspended bite were late and long so maybe they just stayed scattered and suspended all summer? |
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Location: Madison, WI | MNSteveH - 9/15/2014 4:16 PM
So throughout this thread no one has actually posted anything they personally did differently this year! If people are making adjustments let's hear 'em...
That's what I was thinking.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | EsoxAddiction - 9/15/2014 8:15 PM
MNSteveH - 9/15/2014 4:16 PM
So throughout this thread no one has actually posted anything they personally did differently this year! If people are making adjustments let's hear 'em...
That's what I was thinking.
fished smallies … caught a bunch, some pigs n had a blast! |
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| I also fish the NE metro lakes, and I have been trying to figure out if it is a worse year or not, for me. It seems like it is, but when I look at it, maybe not. It might be circumstances. Last year, I didn't start fishing until mid July, as I was without boat until then. I didn't fish as much as this year, and I hooked fish every time out. Saw lots of fish. Had no outings where I didn't encounter at least one fish. This year, I've fished more, and caught less. Had a few outings with no muskie encounters, and a couple without so much as a pike. I have also had a couple outings with no musckies, but caught several really big pike. Looking back at my logs from last year, almost all of them happened to be during moon rise or set. In fact about 80% were moon sets. This year, I've hit two moon rises, that's it. How influential that is, I don't know. We've had the weird season weather-wise, and I know I haven't made the best adjustments, although, I did try some completely different things last weekend, and broke a two trip drought on the same lake. I'm not counting the trips to my neighborhood tiger lake, as I am pretty much on a first name basis with most of the fish in that lake. It's where I go when I need a confidence boost. I only fish about 3 to 4 hours at a crack, and mostly fish alone. I go when I can go, regardless of whether it should be a "good" day or time. It seems like I happen to have gone during more prime times, last year, and this year, I always seem to catch the front wrong, or there is no notable moon event. So, it seems like it's not as good as last year, but I can't say for sure. It just hasn't seemed as good. |
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